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Good day kind sirs, we are selling 5 gallon jugs of testosterone pr....wait, wrong thread. 
So a lively debate has been simmering about what tt numbers should be based on dose, when blood should be drawn (days/weeks) into cycle, how many days after last pin blood should be drawn to get an accurate peak serum concentration, and how split doses affect peak concentrations. There are pieces of this information all over the forum, and the answers vary wildly depending on who you ask.
In the interest of collecting this information in one place, and getting a standard meso protocol in place to eliminate questions and debate over the bloodwork protocol used, it would be very cool if folks can chime in and we can nail down, at a minimum, the EXACT protocol we should be using to get numbers from testing that are considered reliable and can be compared.
My understanding for test c or e, to get a peak total T concentration after an injection, blood draw is 48-72 hours later, based on this post: https://thinksteroids.com/community...nd-blood-levels.134356260/page-3#post-1048814 from @Michael Scally MD.
It is also my understanding that a single dose should be expected to produce ~ 10 x, i.e., 200 mg shot provides 2000 ng.dl, and that this relationship is linear (same thread as liinked above, again, from Dr. Scally). I'll be looking around for papers/data, but many of you have run multiple cycles with mid-cycle bloodwork, those numbers would be great, i can compile them and get a mean and some statistics if we have enough numbers. If you can post how long it was between last pin and draw, that would be very helpful.
Hoping Dr. Scally will also help us out here, having a standard protocol for mid-cycle bloodwork will provide a level playing field and eliminate a lot of variables. Having an agreed upon and scientifically based expectation for ng.dl values would also be great.
So a lively debate has been simmering about what tt numbers should be based on dose, when blood should be drawn (days/weeks) into cycle, how many days after last pin blood should be drawn to get an accurate peak serum concentration, and how split doses affect peak concentrations. There are pieces of this information all over the forum, and the answers vary wildly depending on who you ask.
In the interest of collecting this information in one place, and getting a standard meso protocol in place to eliminate questions and debate over the bloodwork protocol used, it would be very cool if folks can chime in and we can nail down, at a minimum, the EXACT protocol we should be using to get numbers from testing that are considered reliable and can be compared.
My understanding for test c or e, to get a peak total T concentration after an injection, blood draw is 48-72 hours later, based on this post: https://thinksteroids.com/community...nd-blood-levels.134356260/page-3#post-1048814 from @Michael Scally MD.
It is also my understanding that a single dose should be expected to produce ~ 10 x, i.e., 200 mg shot provides 2000 ng.dl, and that this relationship is linear (same thread as liinked above, again, from Dr. Scally). I'll be looking around for papers/data, but many of you have run multiple cycles with mid-cycle bloodwork, those numbers would be great, i can compile them and get a mean and some statistics if we have enough numbers. If you can post how long it was between last pin and draw, that would be very helpful.
Hoping Dr. Scally will also help us out here, having a standard protocol for mid-cycle bloodwork will provide a level playing field and eliminate a lot of variables. Having an agreed upon and scientifically based expectation for ng.dl values would also be great.
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