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Voltrader said:
The report link damn that is even easier @Colt44 you are on e smart cookie;).
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Colt44 said:
Ha...Millard probably gets tired of it.
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Not at all - you have no idea how helpful it is. It doesn't matter if I'm tagged or PM'ed or the post is reported. I always receive notifications. But if I see a red flashing "report" notification, I give it priority.

In the present case, I knew something was up because my notifications were lighting up all over the place! :)
 
bickel29 said:
Element never asked "will you mediate this situation". He did bring it to me as an FYI, I told him I'd try to help as he was frustrated and felt at a dead end, and I tried to help him get his pack.

I asked MS just to resend the entire pack, he disagreed, element posted about it, and you saw what happened from there.

I did tell both guys I would post my thoughts on it, which I did.
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Apologies to members for dragging this out once the thread has moved on, but bickel to clarify. I did specifically ask you not to follow up. I contacted you as you are a popular guy here and are actively supportive of ms. I pm'd you to let you know I was intending to post my experience. You agreed, then some time later came back saying you had contacted ms. Not once did I ask anyone to help me sort out what I saw was a problem
 
element00 said:
Apologies to members for dragging this out once the thread has moved on, but bickel to clarify. I did specifically ask you not to follow up. I contacted you as you are a popular guy here and are actively supportive of ms. I pm'd you to let you know I was intending to post my experience. You agreed, then some time later came back saying you had contacted ms. Not once did I ask anyone to help me sort out what I saw was a problem
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Hmmm... I guess we have a misunderstanding then.

I do acknowledge that you told me at one point that you didn't need anyone to help you handle your business, but I also remember at another point you being receptive to me trying to get MS to reship your order.

Mike did ask me for my opinion on it, i believe after you went public with it, and I gave him my advice.

For the record, I never posted anything that wasn't already public knowledge to the entire board.

You came to me - Mike came to me - I tried to help both of you out. Sorry if you see it differently or if you wish I wouldn't have tried to help.

I made it clear in my last post about it that you were still good in my book, and I asked anyone that could help you with a source that ships to you, to help you out.

Sorry if you didn't want any of the help stated above. I guess I misunderstood your motivations for coming to me, I saw an opportunity to help you, and I tried. My apologies if you see/saw it differently, element. I sincerely did try to help, as you and I have always been cool.
 
bickel29 said:
Hmmm... I guess we have a misunderstanding then.

I do acknowledge that you told me at one point that you didn't need anyone to help you handle your business, but I also remember at another point you being receptive to me trying to get MS to reship your order.

Mike did ask me for my opinion on it, i believe after you went public with it, and I gave him my advice.

For the record, I never posted anything that wasn't already public knowledge to the entire board.

You came to me - Mike came to me - I tried to help both of you out. Sorry if you see it differently or if you wish I wouldn't have tried to help.

I made it clear in my last post about it that you were still good in my book, and I asked anyone that could help you with a source that ships to you, to help you out.

Sorry if you didn't want any of the help stated above. I guess I misunderstood your motivations for coming to me, I saw an opportunity to help you, and I tried. My apologies if you see/saw it differently, element. I sincerely did try to help, as you and I have always been cool.
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No good deed goes unpunished.
 
bickel29 said:
Hmmm... I guess we have a misunderstanding then.

I do acknowledge that you told me at one point that you didn't need anyone to help you handle your business, but I also remember at another point you being receptive to me trying to get MS to reship your order.

Mike did ask me for my opinion on it, i believe after you went public with it, and I gave him my advice.

For the record, I never posted anything that wasn't already public knowledge to the entire board.

You came to me - Mike came to me - I tried to help both of you out. Sorry if you see it differently or if you wish I wouldn't have tried to help.

I made it clear in my last post about it that you were still good in my book, and I asked anyone that could help you with a source that ships to you, to help you out.

Sorry if you didn't want any of the help stated above. I guess I misunderstood your motivations for coming to me, I saw an opportunity to help you, and I tried. My apologies if you see/saw it differently, element. I sincerely did try to help, as you and I have always been cool.
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Yeah thanks for trying to help out, give of your time & stuff.
If he didn't want you to handle it, he should have told you, cause I know you came to me with his issue & tried to mediate things. He came to me & I asked him to wait at first, next thing I was hearing from you. I am sure you took the my offers back to him.
Cause then later I finally heard back from him, gave him the same offers & even more. Which after that he decided to post up, his SHORT side of the story.
Respect
mikestrong
 
Moose said:
No good deed goes unpunished.
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Well, the problem is I thought I was doing right by element, but he didnt. Element is a good guy, so I am being sincere when I say it wasn't my intention to overstep my bounds. I thought I was helping him, he didn't want that much help, and it got lost in translation somewhere. It's all good on my end, and so is element00.
 
mikestrong said:
Yeah thanks for trying to help out, give of your time & stuff.
If he didn't want you to handle it, he should have told you, cause I know you came to me with his issue & tried to mediate things. He came to me & I asked him to wait at first, next thing I was hearing from you. I am sure you took the my offers back to him.
Cause then later I finally heard back from him, gave him the same offers & even more. Which after that he decided to post up, his SHORT side of the story.
Respect
mikestrong
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For the record element00 DID say in the beginning that I didn't have to get involved, and that he could handle his business. Somewhere in the following exchanges, I believed he was receptive to me helping him. Mike told me that an unhappy member was going to post about their bad experience, and it went from there.

Man, I really don't want to drag this whole thing out again. It really is as simple as both guys telling me their side and I sincerely tried to help both dudes out. For the record, I DID recommend initially to Mike that he just reship the order, Mike chose differently, and I respected that.

Element and I never did have a negative exchange between us. I still consider him a "Meso friend".
 
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