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eminem93
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Damn so if we want 5000 levels we have to run a gram a week of test? Thats a bit underdosed.
Johnson513
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My thoughts too... I originally jumped the gun and somehow over looked the prop dose, just saw the test-e and npp, which would have been beautiful at 600 e/w
But almost 6k on a gram is a rough sell...
Cole
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So in most of your guys experience what has been the highest levels you got on yourself, or personally seen??? Seems like around the 6K range is the norm as of lately.
Colt44
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Just because it's the norm doesn't mean it's right. It's only the status quo if you choose to accept it.
Cole
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You are exactly correct Colt!!!! Take me to school real quick, what should one expect from a gram of TE???
You should expect 8k-10k according to our in house doctor
Cole
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I thought that is what I seen from some of Scally's findings but couldn't remember for sure.
Colt44
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^^^Correct. Obviously blood levels are somewhat subjective but 8x to 10x. 7.5 would be alright IMO.
tileguy123
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where is the scally thread you guys are referring to , i guess i havent seen it
tileguy123
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and remember dont know that it makes much of a difference at this point, but im right at 950 mg ew , two different test esters not sure if that matters either, 600 TE EW, and 350 TP EW..
not sure how im interpreting this, but is 300mg harder to produce than 200-250mg TE? could the problem lie there.. or is there much more to this ?
not sure how im interpreting this, but is 300mg harder to produce than 200-250mg TE? could the problem lie there.. or is there much more to this ?
I agree. However, Meso's top two sources have reflected similar numbers. For most of the average joes here without a private or other legit source, you can either not accept it or..... Well fuck, there's really no other option. Seems all public sources on any board (even with "stellar" reps) are having quality issues. I don't know what the alternative is at this point.
We could all go on a steroid strike until quality improves? (I couldn't even type that without smiling)
But Tile was taking 600mg test e per week....plus the other stuff. I Guess my question is, will the other compounds test out the same as the test e (like he was on 1000mg test e per week), as far as blood levels are concerned.
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Im a bit confused as well. ..
Some other members aren't reporting back with numbers consistent with Scally's rule of thumb even when running prescribed test. Kind of a funny deal.
Makes me wonder if it's user dependant our an error with machinery
Some other members aren't reporting back with numbers consistent with Scally's rule of thumb even when running prescribed test. Kind of a funny deal.
Makes me wonder if it's user dependant our an error with machinery
Seems maybe there are some unanswered questions regarding testing on combined esthers of test.
tileguy123
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wish i would have had labs from my astro cycle.. i got so damn veiny on that run. ..
however im only 6weeks in.. got a another 6 at least to go.. probably 10
however im only 6weeks in.. got a another 6 at least to go.. probably 10
boodecarlo
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Man joining this site & reading your posts is an awesome amount of info. Thanks & keep the education coming.
I dunno Tile, it seems to start to get fuzzy when you start factoring in timing of draw relative to last shot, morning or evening draw, etc. It is frustrating.
What's really frustrating is that this seems to be the norm lately, and we can't get anyone coming back with that '8-10 times' number, no matter the user, or lab.
It seems like many members want to just accept this as the way it, and maybe that's the case? But I agree with Colt that we don't want to allow our lowered expectations to define what "good" is.
And I do know that johnnyBALLZ has stated that back in the day on script Watson he did achieve that '8-10 times' range.
We need one of our members who has been hoarding their script Watson while on ugl gear to run high doses of Watson (600 or more a week) for 5 weeks and then go get bloods for comparison. This of course would need to be preceeded by the same regimen and testing of ugl gear.
wish i would have had labs from my astro cycle.. i got so damn veiny on that run. ..
however im only 6weeks in.. got a another 6 at least to go.. probably 10
What did you run from Astro when you got all veiny?
I remember voltrader I think it was runs Watson at least for trt and wasn't reporting back 8-10x
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