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Shhh I am 42 and play sports....I don't deadlift. Three herniated discs. I still lift but I have switched to leaning out decided play sports it won out vs. holding weight and doing BB. This the first time in over 18 years or so that I am not trying to get bigger hard to get use too. Still 6' 1 245 and solid. Just not 265-270.

I can tell none of you guys haven't been slide tackled.

Bick I know what you are saying and yes being from Chicago automatically lets me be able to do what the hell I want.
Your goals are similar to my own. Almost 42. Interested in extending my time on the basketball court. Starting TRT this year has helped immensely and currently on a blast. Of course my eye is wandering now. Anything else I might consider adding to my current blast?
 
Your goals are similar to my own. Almost 42. Interested in extending my time on the basketball court. Starting TRT this year has helped immensely and currently on a blast. Of course my eye is wandering now. Anything else I might consider adding to my current blast?
I like Deca at maintenance dose of 200-250 ew. I would run this 16 weeks on and a couple months off but I also run blod work every 4 weeks. I did this for years but I am finally giving Gh a chance at 2.5 iu's a day to see if that can replace the deca. I would stay away from orals nothing worse then a debilitating pump in the middle of a game usually I get calve pumps that put my feet to sleep. I really think you can experiment i would just stay at lower dose blast especially in season. Which now between soccer and basketball I am almost always in season. I know I also liked short esters on my blasts. Main thing be smart it is a longevity thing you do not have to do crazy ass doses because that is not your goal. Rarely do I ever do more than 1g total ew on blast.

I will say this if you go Deca remember coming off watch your movement for several weeks it will be easy to injure yourself. You will now you are off I usually do this when I am not playing in league's.
 
I like Deca at maintenance dose of 200-250 ew. I would run this 16 weeks on and a couple months off but I also run blod work every 4 weeks. I did this for years but I am finally giving Gh a chance at 2.5 iu's a day to see if that can replace the deca. I would stay away from orals nothing worse then a debilitating pump in the middle of a game usually I get calve pumps that put my feet to sleep. I really think you can experiment i would just stay at lower dose blast especially in season. Which now between soccer and basketball I am almost always in season. I know I also liked short esters on my blasts. Main thing be smart it is a longevity thing you do not have to do crazy ass doses because that is not your goal. Rarely do I ever do more than 1g total ew on blast.

I will say this if you go Deca remember coming off watch your movement for several weeks it will be easy to injure yourself. You will now you are off I usually do this when I am not playing in league's.
Thank you for the insight and advice, Voltrader - exactly what I was looking for. Prior to TRT, I was pretty much the old man on the court and mentally I knew I was a lot better than the twenty years olds - it was frustrating. Your mind says you can do, but your body says you can't. Since being on TRT things have changed dramatically. Now the twenty years olds say, "that's not gray hair - that's titanium" Feels good to turn back the clock a bit. I do lift weights, but I am not as dedicated and disciplined as others on the forum. I am the two plate guy in the gym - "clank, clank, clank."

How much test do you normally run with the deca? Any sides I should be mindful of while on deca at that dose?

Lookging forward to hearing about the results with the GH.
 
@tmac34 I have never had any sides I would just run my trt dose. I take 1/2 mg adex 2x a week....honestly sometimes just once a week. If you want get going in the gym you go on blast even quick 6 week burst just to increase strength. Run blood work and watch your lipids and liver maybe even donate blood every 6_8 weeks to keep crit levels nice. I think you like the lowdose deca it will help with recovery and you can play 2x a week no prob. Sometimes though you still see it and your brain is on it but your body stills too slow.

My trt dose is 180mg ew so I run 250 deca with that.
 
I will say this I am running trt dose and gh with Mike Strong primo at 700mg ew right now .....expensive but I think I will love the results for my goals.
A Primo cycle, that is VIP, I remember the Schering Primobolan amps, with the paper labels & the lines & the dot in the glass, used to sell them for $12 each, $10 if VIP would get 100.
Enjoy that cycle. I agree with Tmac, very good info you posted up.
Respect
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@tmac34 I have never had any sides I would just run my trt dose. I take 1/2 mg adex 2x a week....honestly sometimes just once a week. If you want get going in the gym you go on blast even quick 6 week burst just to increase strength. Run blood work and watch your lipids and liver maybe even donate blood every 6_8 weeks to keep crit levels nice. I think you like the lowdose deca it will help with recovery and you can play 2x a week no prob. Sometimes though you still see it and your brain is on it but your body stills too slow.

My trt dose is 180mg ew so I run 250 deca with that.
Thanks! Appreciate the level of detail.
 
@tmac34 I have never had any sides I would just run my trt dose. I take 1/2 mg adex 2x a week....honestly sometimes just once a week. If you want get going in the gym you go on blast even quick 6 week burst just to increase strength. Run blood work and watch your lipids and liver maybe even donate blood every 6_8 weeks to keep crit levels nice. I think you like the lowdose deca it will help with recovery and you can play 2x a week no prob. Sometimes though you still see it and your brain is on it but your body stills too slow.

My trt dose is 180mg ew so I run 250 deca with that.
Hey Volt - One more Q: How long did it take for you for the deca to take affect? What about starting with both NPP and deca to realize the benefits quicker (impatient I know) and then stopping the NPP 3 or 4 weeks in and upping the dose of deca?
 
Hey Volt - One more Q: How long did it take for you for the deca to take affect? What about starting with both NPP and deca to realize the benefits quicker (impatient I know) and then stopping the NPP 3 or 4 weeks in and upping the dose of deca?
Just realized that only makes sense if I am running the deca at full dose from the beginning.
 
Your goalenact hate ilar to my own. Almost 42. Interested in extending my time on the basketball court. Starting TRT this year has helped immensely and currently on a blast. Of course my eye is wandering now. Anything else I might consider adding to my current blast?
I am almost 40 and I got really good results from test enanthate 600 MG wk, masteron Enanthate 400 MG wk and tren Enanthate 200 MG wk. I was shredded more than i was when i was sprinting in college at 5% bodyfat. My bodyfat went from around 12% to 8% not restrictions my diet. Masteron is very similar to primo but cheaper. And most primo being sold is actually masteron it is hard to find good primo. But be careful with tren it can hinder breathing capabilities in physical activities for some.
 
Hey Volt - One more Q: How long did it take for you for the deca to take affect? What about starting with both NPP and deca to realize the benefits quicker (impatient I know) and then stopping the NPP 3 or 4 weeks in and upping the dose of deca?
Just note that a side effect for deca is a lack of erections for some. At a small dose and paired with test you should be fine.
 
@tmac34 your wife would be double pissed homeboy, you gotta stick up on that Viagra!

Nahhh... Would deca still have those side effects at such a low dose? I would doubt it
 
Hey Volt - One more Q: How long did it take for you for the deca to take affect? What about starting with both NPP and deca to realize the benefits quicker (impatient I know) and then stopping the NPP 3 or 4 weeks in and upping the dose of deca?
U can do this NPP comes in 100ng/ml.
Pin 100 eod 3-4 weeks along with the deca dose do not worry you will have no problem as long as your wife can handle it.
As far as my current run that is all self experimenting trying to see if there is something better . I am 42 and can do it.
 
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