Jimmyinkedup
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I am pretty comfortable running what will be about 750/week as i am doing about 300mcg/inject of cjc w/dac. Also my main goal here was to judge the oral ghrp mk677 but as with most all gh inducing peps I wouldnt run it alone.
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I am pretty comfortable running what will be about 750/week as i am doing about 300mcg/inject of cjc w/dac. Also my main goal here was to judge the oral ghrp mk677 but as with most all gh inducing peps I wouldnt run it alone.
Jimmyinkedup
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Low dose daily cia is exactly for my BP and when on cycle its great for any BPH issues I may encounter as well.
Jimmyinkedup
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9/10/2015:
OK so have been away for quite a few days here but have stayed on point. As far as effects what I am noticing is still pretty much the same. Good, solid sleep for me. I am retaining water but my diet admittedly hasnt been the best. Being away I havent gone crazy but I def havent been totally on point so that is to be expected.
What I am hoping it that by early next week I will have been bak on track and in my routine enough to give a good , solid report of any progress.
Thanks for following!
OK so have been away for quite a few days here but have stayed on point. As far as effects what I am noticing is still pretty much the same. Good, solid sleep for me. I am retaining water but my diet admittedly hasnt been the best. Being away I havent gone crazy but I def havent been totally on point so that is to be expected.
What I am hoping it that by early next week I will have been bak on track and in my routine enough to give a good , solid report of any progress.
Thanks for following!
tenpoundsleft
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My bloat is finally receding a bit, give it a few more days, maybe I'll restart this weekend. Oddly my left leg/angle was the straggler, getting way more bloated than the right - serious cankle... Is this some indication that the generated GH had to do more work on the left side, or is that utter broscience?
Jimmyinkedup
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I dont think the bloat from mk is primarily GH induced to be honest. Knowing the dosage of gh you have to run to experience the kind of bloat mk users aare reporting I doubt it is solely gh related. I think perhaps it has to do with ghrellins effects on Vasopressin. Also I think perhaps a low dosee daily aspirin regiment mmight help with your bloat. I would give it a try. This is speculation on my part but it makes some sense as aspirin would lessen the effects of Vasopressin.
tenpoundsleft
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Vasopressin - I learned a new word there - and here's a link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasopressin
Here's another link on the tie btw Aspirin and vasopressin:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9062488
Not that I'm that much wiser after reading that content... I'll avoid even speculating, I'd only be correct by some fluke of happenstance, and most likely be totally off.
Looks like you're more up on the biochemistry.
Here's another link on the tie btw Aspirin and vasopressin:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9062488
Not that I'm that much wiser after reading that content... I'll avoid even speculating, I'd only be correct by some fluke of happenstance, and most likely be totally off.
Looks like you're more up on the biochemistry.
jcc80
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Understood. Just trying to get my own facts straight. I've been running the mk solo for a couple months already. I'm getting slow but noticeable changes in body composition, and my wife notices a big improvement in my skin.
I have been trying to justify adding 2mg per week of DAC. Really, it's my wife I have to justify it to. But since I've seen female cjc logs here and there, I bet I can get both of us on it. Win-win.
Jimmyinkedup
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Understood. Just trying to get my own facts straight. I've been running the mk solo for a couple months already. I'm getting slow but noticeable changes in body composition, and my wife notices a big improvement in my skin.
I have been trying to justify adding 2mg per week of DAC. Really, it's my wife I have to justify it to. But since I've seen female cjc logs here and there, I bet I can get both of us on it. Win-win.
Actually if what I have read is correct cjc w/dac is supposed to be great for women as it more closely resembles their natural GH pulse patterns so supposedly they respond to it even better than men. Do I know that for a fact- no but I have read it many times over at DAT's forum.
Jimmyinkedup
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I always make sure not to consume carbs 30 mins pre or post injection
Jimmyinkedup
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9/15/2015:
Well so far so good. I think I can say a few preliminary things as far as this stack goes and also I am making a dosing change in my cjc.
I was running cjc w/dac at 250-300mcg E3D. I have decided to up this to 500mcg E3D effective immediately. I just feel that the increase will put me right in the sweet spot or at least the low end of the sweet spot as far as CJC w/DAC dosing goes.
As far as effects with my diet having been cleaned up for a bit now I will say the water retention is diminishing.
My sleep has been excellent. To the point that it has consistently been so to the point that I can attribute this to the peptide stack as normally great sleep is not something I regularly experience.
My appetite is up. Now they say this compound doesnt cause this but for me I def notice aa slight inrease in appetite. Not so much quantity of food when I eat but thee frequency with which I get hungry has increased. It is or would be far from an issue when cutting, I am not ravenous but def hungry quite often.
I fel pretty good. A combo of things I am sure, good sleep and the gh effects of this stack. My mood is very good.
All in all I am starting to expereince what I would on a low dose GH protcol but I am not going to kid myself or anyone following I cannot yet say anything aas far as physical effects or benefits. This is not of concern to me nor is it disconcerting at all. I know how these peptides (and even real GH) work. They take time.
My preliminary thought is that the stack is on track to be doing what I had hoped, increasing my GH (and igf) to therapeutic levels. What that will translate to as far as results can only be told by time so I will keep plugging along and pay close attention to the way , I look, feel and physically progress in addition to gather hard data in the form of numbers and we will see how this mk677/cjc w/dac stack ultimately shakes out.
Thanks for following guys!
Well so far so good. I think I can say a few preliminary things as far as this stack goes and also I am making a dosing change in my cjc.
I was running cjc w/dac at 250-300mcg E3D. I have decided to up this to 500mcg E3D effective immediately. I just feel that the increase will put me right in the sweet spot or at least the low end of the sweet spot as far as CJC w/DAC dosing goes.
As far as effects with my diet having been cleaned up for a bit now I will say the water retention is diminishing.
My sleep has been excellent. To the point that it has consistently been so to the point that I can attribute this to the peptide stack as normally great sleep is not something I regularly experience.
My appetite is up. Now they say this compound doesnt cause this but for me I def notice aa slight inrease in appetite. Not so much quantity of food when I eat but thee frequency with which I get hungry has increased. It is or would be far from an issue when cutting, I am not ravenous but def hungry quite often.
I fel pretty good. A combo of things I am sure, good sleep and the gh effects of this stack. My mood is very good.
All in all I am starting to expereince what I would on a low dose GH protcol but I am not going to kid myself or anyone following I cannot yet say anything aas far as physical effects or benefits. This is not of concern to me nor is it disconcerting at all. I know how these peptides (and even real GH) work. They take time.
My preliminary thought is that the stack is on track to be doing what I had hoped, increasing my GH (and igf) to therapeutic levels. What that will translate to as far as results can only be told by time so I will keep plugging along and pay close attention to the way , I look, feel and physically progress in addition to gather hard data in the form of numbers and we will see how this mk677/cjc w/dac stack ultimately shakes out.
Thanks for following guys!
Jimmyinkedup
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9/19/2015:
All is going well. I have upped my cjc dose to 500mcg/injection. My sleep continues to be excellent. The appetite increase is slight but there. I do not get a huge increases like I see some report, just very slight and it doesnt seem to be in the form of the amount of food i consume per sitting. It seems to be more in the form of the frequency with which i get hungry. Honestly I would almost consider this effect a non issue either way. Is it there- yes. Would it in any way hinder if I were cutting- no. Would it help while bulking I guess maybe very slightly.
As far as bloat with my diet in check and a low dose daily aspirin regiment I dont have an issue with it at all. I really recommend those experiencing the bloat issue looks closely at your diet and give the 82mg enteric aspirin, 1x/day, a try.
I guess thats about all to report ATM. Nothing real exciting oother than I think this stuff does do something as far as my HGH & IGF levels. What blood work will tell and how much time will tell. Stay tuned.
All is going well. I have upped my cjc dose to 500mcg/injection. My sleep continues to be excellent. The appetite increase is slight but there. I do not get a huge increases like I see some report, just very slight and it doesnt seem to be in the form of the amount of food i consume per sitting. It seems to be more in the form of the frequency with which i get hungry. Honestly I would almost consider this effect a non issue either way. Is it there- yes. Would it in any way hinder if I were cutting- no. Would it help while bulking I guess maybe very slightly.
As far as bloat with my diet in check and a low dose daily aspirin regiment I dont have an issue with it at all. I really recommend those experiencing the bloat issue looks closely at your diet and give the 82mg enteric aspirin, 1x/day, a try.
I guess thats about all to report ATM. Nothing real exciting oother than I think this stuff does do something as far as my HGH & IGF levels. What blood work will tell and how much time will tell. Stay tuned.
Jimmyinkedup
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Yes I am.
how much of T4?
I started @ 50 Mcg a day and then every few days went up till I got to 150 Mcg.
I started the Ramp-up before I started the MK-677.
When I finished, I did the Reverse Dosing Protocol with the T-4............... JP
Jimmyinkedup
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9/30/2015:
Ok so things are moving along nicely. I think it is good i bumped my cjc w/dac up to 500mcg E3D. That and the 25mg mk/ day seem to be a nice combo for a low dose , GH inducing peptide stack. Obviously I will know more when I get my blood work with some numbers but I can def feel a couple things that tell me I have increased GH levels.
My sleep is great, appetite is good, my sense of well being is very good. I have nice clear skin and the wife tells me my disposition is very good lately. These are all early on signs for me that I have increased levels of GH.
Just wanted to update things- nothing earth shattering to report but keeping this moving along.
My early on thoughts: mk really is an effective oral GHRP without some of the downsides of other GHRPS as far as adverse hormonal effects and minimal appetite impact.
Ok so things are moving along nicely. I think it is good i bumped my cjc w/dac up to 500mcg E3D. That and the 25mg mk/ day seem to be a nice combo for a low dose , GH inducing peptide stack. Obviously I will know more when I get my blood work with some numbers but I can def feel a couple things that tell me I have increased GH levels.
My sleep is great, appetite is good, my sense of well being is very good. I have nice clear skin and the wife tells me my disposition is very good lately. These are all early on signs for me that I have increased levels of GH.
Just wanted to update things- nothing earth shattering to report but keeping this moving along.
My early on thoughts: mk really is an effective oral GHRP without some of the downsides of other GHRPS as far as adverse hormonal effects and minimal appetite impact.
@Jimmyinkedup, good to see an update from you. I am following the thread with a lot of interest. Was looking at this run, or something similar, myself so please keep the updates coming.
Jimmyinkedup
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10/6/2015:
Ok so things are moving along nicely. It seems like in addition to the effects I am already experiencing I may be starting to lose a few lbs of bodyfat. Nothing earth shattering but for me this is promising if it continues as that was one of the nicest benefits of my previous peptide stacks (ie:mod grf & ghrp2).
Im thinking in about 3 weeks or so I will get blood work checking GH & IGF levels. That will be around 8-9 weeks in and will play a big part in whether or not I continue to use this stack past the 12 week mark. I have plenty of CJC w/ dac but if I am going to continue past 12 weeks I need to get more Mk677.
I am trying to be as non biased as possible but I have to admit I really want this stack to work as the infrequent pinning is a joy compared to the pincushion you become with the other GHRH/GHRP stacks. Its even more convenient that using GH as far as injection frequency goes.
Ill update again later in the week.
Ok so things are moving along nicely. It seems like in addition to the effects I am already experiencing I may be starting to lose a few lbs of bodyfat. Nothing earth shattering but for me this is promising if it continues as that was one of the nicest benefits of my previous peptide stacks (ie:mod grf & ghrp2).
Im thinking in about 3 weeks or so I will get blood work checking GH & IGF levels. That will be around 8-9 weeks in and will play a big part in whether or not I continue to use this stack past the 12 week mark. I have plenty of CJC w/ dac but if I am going to continue past 12 weeks I need to get more Mk677.
I am trying to be as non biased as possible but I have to admit I really want this stack to work as the infrequent pinning is a joy compared to the pincushion you become with the other GHRH/GHRP stacks. Its even more convenient that using GH as far as injection frequency goes.
Ill update again later in the week.
To Jimmyinkedup:
What kind of Synergy are you noticing with the CJC with DAC added to the MK-677.
You mentioned some Fat Loss.
I noticed that on MK-677 and T-4.
So I'm wondering if you're seeing anything else that you can say is the result of the CJC with DAC...................................... JP
P.S.
Also, do you think the 5 Days on and 2 Off is keeping the Edema down.
Or are you still experiencing Edema.
What kind of Synergy are you noticing with the CJC with DAC added to the MK-677.
You mentioned some Fat Loss.
I noticed that on MK-677 and T-4.
So I'm wondering if you're seeing anything else that you can say is the result of the CJC with DAC...................................... JP
P.S.
Also, do you think the 5 Days on and 2 Off is keeping the Edema down.
Or are you still experiencing Edema.
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