My first cycle (test-e 600mg/week & t-bol 40mg/day)

[Jaysian]

Gender: Male
Age: 19
Height: 5''8
Bw: (scaled empty stomach, in the morning): 207lbs
%bf: between 25 and 30 (never actually tested)
Metabolism: Endo (slow metabolism) but I gain muscle mass and strength with certain ease.
Equipment: Testosterone Enanthate 300mg/ml + Turinabol (T-bol) 10mg + Tamoxifen 20mg
BD 3ml Syringe Luer-Lok Tip with BD PrecisionGlide(TM) Needle (0.6mm x 25mm)
BD PrecisionGlide(TM) Needle (0.9mm x 25mm)

Lifts before cycle
Bench: 275lbs
Squat: 385lbs
Deadlift: 425lbs

Proof of lifts and physique
https://www.instagram.com/_jaysian_/
(all physique and strength updates will be on my IG weekly so make sure to follow)

Background: I started lifting seriously at the age of 15 (currently 19), I have read over 3 years worth of research in nutrition, human anatomy and training. I'm starting my first cycle with confidence and preparation.

Training:
4 day split
Day 1: Chest/Traps/Abs
Day 2: Back/Shoulders
Day 3: Biceps/Triceps/Abs
Day 4: Legs
Rest day if necessary.
NOTE*: Might switch it up if protein synthesis acts faster than expected.

Nutrition:
Daily caloric intake: 3500
Protein: 150 to 200g daily
Carbs: 300 to 350g daily
Fat: <50g daily

Day 1: 30/11/17
I'm feeling pretty anxious going into this, but very excited at the same time. Two of my buddies showed me the steps on how to use the syringe, how to replace the needle and how/where to penetrate the needle. My best friend was there along with my two other buddies to assist the day where I officially renounced my natty status.

Injection went pretty well, I've never been so focus and steady on a task at hand. I injected the fluid on the top of my right quad at 14:30 and massaged the area thoroughly for about 3 minutes. I then swallowed two T-bol and went to work at 15:00. My leg hurt so much during an 8 hour shift, but I managed to pull-through. Swallowed two other T-bol right after work. It kept hurting 'till 3:00 am. I was suppose to do legs that day but f*ck that, it hurt way too much. Diet a bit out of whack, so is my sleep. (I've always had problems with sleeping schedules).

Day 2: 01/12/17
Woke up early in the afternoon, right leg still in pain but not as bad. I swallowed two T-bol and went straight to work at 15:00. It was almost a blessing to be able to move around and not look like I just got done putting a pole up my a**. I then swallowed the two other T-bol and went to the gym with one of my buddies; arm day. This was my first training post-injection. The pump felt great! I was repping the f*ck out of every set, going over the threshold every time. I hadn't trained arms in months since an injury in my right elbow joint, so I stopped working them altogether. Felt great to hit them again. My diet is still out of whack and so is my sleep. Will have to address the situation seriously to fix it.

Day 3: 02/12/17
Woke up again in the early afternoon, right leg pain COMPLETELY GONE. Hallelujah! But my biceps and triceps are aching so bad! I swallowed two T-bol and went on with my day. Went to the gym later in evening and hit legs. The pump was again as amazing, couldn't ask for a more successful leg workout. I swallowed the other two T-bol right after. Diet hasn't started yet and my sleep is WAY out of whack. I swallowed the two other T-bol right after the gym and went home. Could't sleep 'till 5:00 am.

Day 4: 03/12/17
Woke up a little late in the afternoon, arms still aching. Legs are definitely hurting from yesterday but not as bad as I thought. I FINALLY started my diet! Today was my first official day where I started following my meal plan. I hope to be able to keep it up. I swallowed two T-bol with my 1st meal and went to the gym an hour later. CHEST and TRAPS were pretty great. Solid workout, didn't feel strong today though. I can't wait to up my bench to 315lbs. Swallowed the other two T-bol and went home. My sleep is still pretty bad but I'm working on it. I fell asleep at around 3:00 am.

 

[AlienHuman]

You are 19, over 200 lbs. You are starting on a dose that is not small, and with orals too. I would suggest getting back to the drawing board and getting your diet in check, focusing on your techniques and enjoying your natural T while it's peaking. What are your pre cycle bloods like? I suggest a few more years of experience in life before doing this.

 

[Jaysian]

You are 19, over 200 lbs. You are starting on a dose that is not small, and with orals too. I would suggest getting back to the drawing board and getting your diet in check, focusing on your techniques and enjoying your natural T while it's peaking. What are your pre cycle bloods like? I suggest a few more years of experience in life before doing this.

I was actually a bit under average with my T-levels beforehand, due to a recent depression. I know that I probably shouldn't start so young, but I really want to fully commit and see what happens after 12 weeks.

 

[AlienHuman]

I was actually a bit under average with my T-levels beforehand, due to a recent depression. I know that I probably shouldn't start so young, but I really want to fully commit and see what happens after 12 weeks.

I probably won't be the one to convince you out of it; being measured and all. I'm sure other members will chime in with deterrents for you. If you're certain you want this (you're young, you're wrong)- here are some serious questions:

1) post bloods from before. What was your e2? Hct? When do you plan to check how you're responding?

2) You can never go back from liver damage. Orals are very harsh. Are you committed to taking them as well?

3) what is your reasoning for your dosage? How flexible are you on it?

4) Do you understand PCT? What's your plan?

5) Do you really understand why experienced members will tell you to lift natty and get your diet on point until you're 24/25? You look relatively developed for a natty, and age is on your side. Do you understand the potential consequences of doing this now? Your 30 -year old self may be a different person. Your social media fame won't last forever. Etc

 

[Iron Frenchie]

You look about 185lbs from the pics IMO. When your as young as you are I think cycle length comes into play more then dose does. I think you should up the test, stop the orals and lower the length of the cycle. So your shut down for less time.

 

[Jaysian]

I probably won't be the one to convince you out of it; being measured and all. I'm sure other members will chime in with deterrents for you. If you're certain you want this (you're young, you're wrong)- here are some serious questions:

1) post bloods from before. What was your e2? Hct? When do you plan to check how you're responding?

2) You can never go back from liver damage. Orals are very harsh. Are you committed to taking them as well?

3) what is your reasoning for your dosage? How flexible are you on it?

4) Do you understand PCT? What's your plan?

5) Do you really understand why experienced members will tell you to lift natty and get your diet on point until you're 24/25? You look relatively developed for a natty, and age is on your side. Do you understand the potential consequences of doing this now? Your 30 -year old self may be a different person. Your social media fame won't last forever. Etc

1) I honestly don't know but I'm planning on doing frequent check ups and looking out for signs like sensible nips.
2) T-bol is rather soft as an oral, but I took the precaution to buy a liver detox.
3) My research basically ended on 500 to 600mg/week is a pretty good dosage for a first cycle. The T-bol mixed in was just for my first 4 weeks to get a kick. The other 9 weeks will be test only.
4)My post cycle's basically gonna be slowly lowering the dosage about after the 10th week and use the tamoxifen as my es. blockers. Edit: I haven't quite rigged up my PCT yet, but I have a pretty good idea of what to buy and how to use them.
5) I do understand the consequences that might come with this, I understand that jumping on gear is a serious subject and shouldn't be a laughing matter. Thank you for your concern and making sure that I understand what I'm doing. I appreciate the reality check (y)

 

[Jaysian]

You look about 185lbs from the pics IMO. When your as young as you are I think cycle length comes into play more then dose does. I think you should up the test, stop the orals and lower the length of the cycle. So your shut down for less time.

Thx for the tip, I'll keep it in mind. I was actually planning on stopping the orals after my first 4 weeks.

 

[RealET]

Why did you choose to start your diet after day 4 instead of the day you started lifting at 15? On top of that you’re already skipping workouts

This kid makes me so sad

 

[Eman]

Why would you attach your identity to your admitted drug use?

 

[Ironlord]

You've started your cycle but "don't have your PCT rigged up yet"?

You never run a cycle until you have absolutely everything you need. What happens if you can't score from your normal source when you need it?

And the standard... Too young, too high bodyfat, too big of a cycle....

 

[Big_paul]

You are too young. You should wait until you're about 24 25. That said your cycle looks good. You got your mind set and you're going to do it whether we think it's a good idea or not.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Your young, and not too smart to add your instagram to a public steroid forum admitting you juice.

My advice is go natural for a few more years. My if your not going to listen atleast do it the right way. A beginner cycle is:

12-15 weeks Test E or Cyp
500iu of HCH twice a week during cycle
Aromasin on hand and taken when needed during cycle
PCT Nolva and Clomid 2 weeks after last shot

Dont add orals or more oil on a first cycle. Stick to this. You will make just as many gains on a test only cycle since its your first cycle.

 

[Jaysian]

Why did you choose to start your diet after day 4 instead of the day you started lifting at 15? On top of that you’re already skipping workouts

This kid makes me so sad

I did diet before, I just hadn't started my new nutritional regiment. It's not my first time dieting to gain or lose weight lol

 

[Jaysian]

Why would you attach your identity to your admitted drug use?

I don't. My ''identity'' is defined by my actions and who I am as a person. Not my drug use or my physical appearance. I'm doing this for performance and experiment.

 

[Jaysian]

You've started your cycle but "don't have your PCT rigged up yet"?

You never run a cycle until you have absolutely everything you need. What happens if you can't score from your normal source when you need it?

And the standard... Too young, too high bodyfat, too big of a cycle....

I didn't have the money to buy my pct, that's why I said that. But I do know what to buy.

 

[Jaysian]

You are too young. You should wait until you're about 24 25. That said your cycle looks good. You got your mind set and you're going to do it whether we think it's a good idea or not.

You summed it up pretty well sir

 

[Jaysian]

Your young, and not too smart to add your instagram to a public steroid forum admitting you juice.

My advice is go natural for a few more years. My if your not going to listen atleast do it the right way. A beginner cycle is:

12-15 weeks Test E or Cyp
500iu of HCH twice a week during cycle
Aromasin on hand and taken when needed during cycle
PCT Nolva and Clomid 2 weeks after last shot

Dont add orals or more oil on a first cycle. Stick to this. You will make just as many gains on a test only cycle since its your first cycle.

Should I drop the T-bol right away? and I already have the nolva ready, I just need my next paycheck to buy the rest.

 

[Eman]

I don't. My ''identity'' is defined by my actions and who I am as a person. Not my drug use or my physical appearance. I'm doing this for performance and experiment.

I don't care why you're doing this. I'm curious why you would identify yourself to the world as an AAS user. But go ahead, define the term "identity" to the judge or a potential employer.

Here's what's going to happen on your cycle: nothing. You achieved nothing off cycle, you will be unable to achieve anything on cycle and will eventually be taking steps backwards once you PCT. This will all be for not, and you will get no where. I'm not trying to talk you out of it, because I could care less what you do... I've seen countless guys like you come through this forum with the wrong expectations for their experiment where they turn themselves into a guinea pig to get jacked.

Good luck.

 

[RealET]

Should I drop the T-bol right away? and I already have the nolva ready, I just need my next paycheck to buy the rest.

Ok let’s say you get your paycheck before the end of your cycle. What happens if you order it and there are delays to your order, your cycle ends. What will you do?

 

[Jaysian]

Ok let’s say you get your paycheck before the end of your cycle. What happens if you order it and there are delays to your order, your cycle ends. What will you do?

I get my next paycheck in a week, so the chances of that happening are close to 0 but if this does happen by very bad luck, I'll just have to make do with the nolva.