My first cycle

[DepotClmb]

Smart cycle bro. Do you track your calorie intake? Will help minimise fat gain being in a smaller surplus.

yes i will tracking macros i will be consuiming 3500 to 3700 calories I am naturally very slim as well as i dont put on weight too fast.

 

[DepotClmb]

Yes you will need it, its whats going to bring your natural test back to action. at least 50mg for 4 weeks

i am still not 100% sure on how to use hcg because some people say run it all cycle until one week before pct, others say run it only pct. That is why i left it out. is it possible that i run the cycle with out using hcg, or is it a must ?

 

[Nate10]

i am not saying you are wrong. i will just tell you that the guy that i am buying from told me i wouldnt want to take hcg because i will be fucking up myballs and instead of doing preventing shrinkage it will produce more estrogen and give me gyno. also i wanted to justuse one compound to see how my nody reacts to just test e

You totally can run the cycle without HCG no problem, and most likely you wont have a issue who knows. Everyones different but like everyone says better safe then sorry , specially when your messing with your body , you wanna do it right. By running test for that long your nads will definitely shrink some. No hcg will not give you Gyno lol. Are you prone to it? like had a little of it when a kid? Anyways if your concern with HCG is gyno, don't worry it will not affect that. Just run your aromasin 12.5mg EOD and your estrogen should be on check, get blood work and make sure it is on check, then up or lower the dose if needed.

 

[DepotClmb]

You totally can run the cycle without HCG no problem, and most likely you wont have a issue who knows. Everyones different but like everyone says better safe then sorry , specially when your messing with your body , you wanna do it right. By running test for that long your nads will definitely shrink some. No hcg will not give you Gyno lol. Are you prone to it? like had a little of it when a kid? Anyways if your concern with HCG is gyno, don't worry it will not affect that. Just run your aromasin 12.5mg EOD and your estrogen should be on check, get blood work and make sure it is on check, then up or lower the dose if needed.

alright thanks bro. yea had gyno when younger, to this day i still have some.

 

[Nate10]

i am still not 100% sure on how to use hcg because some people say run it all cycle until one week before pct, others say run it only pct. That is why i left it out. is it possible that i run the cycle with out using hcg, or is it a must ?

From my experience and from years of talking to very experienced members on other steroid forums. Its best to run HCG while on cycle. To prevent it from even fully shrinking. Rather then trying to reverse the shrinking at those last weeks of pct. Always better to prevent then wait for the worst.

 

[high-octane]

Test e 500mg/ml Sunday nite/Wednesday morning

Aromasin 12.5 g



This is my first cycle and I will be taking:

Week 1-12 Test e 500mg a week (250mg shots) Sunday morning Wednesday night (250mg each day)

week 1-14 aromasin 12.5g EOD

I start pct two weeks after last test shot

week 14

Clomid 100/100/50/50

Nolva 40/40/20/20\20

my goal is to bulk up gain some size but stay relatively lean.
Any input is greatly appreciated thanks

 

[DepotClmb]

thanks bro

 

[Nate10]

alright thanks bro. yea had gyno when younger, to this day i still have some.

No problem man, but yea if your a little gyno prone. Definitely keep at aromasin 12.5mg eod , if you notice any sensitivity or anything on the nips change it to 12.5mg ed or even 25mg eod. Nolva keep at 40/20/20/20 and you should be good

 

[Apexvallen]

okay thanks for your help. do you think should still try to get bloodwork done before i start my cycle?

Absolutely. Having a baseline is great. Worst case scenario get pre cycle bloods before every cycle to see if you've come back to normal before starting up again. At least that way your doctors won't be able to tell you're on roids. Not perfect but better than notihng.
And no problem.

 

[DepotClmb]

No problem man, but yea if your a little gyno prone. Definitely keep at aromasin 12.5mg eod , if you notice any sensitivity or anything on the nips change it to 12.5mg ed or even 25mg eod. Nolva keep at 40/20/20/20 and you should be good

sounds good. so this something i just came up with does it look ok


Test e 500mg/ml Sunday nite/Wednesday morning

Aromasin 12.5 g

HCG



Week 1-12 Test e 500mg a week (250mg shots) Sunday morning Wednesday night (250mg each day)

week 1-14 aromasin 12.5g EOD

Week 2-14 500iu of HCG per week ( 2 injections of 250iu every time i take test e)



I start pct two weeks after last test shot

week 16

Clomid 100/100/50/50

Nolva 40/40/20/20

 

[DepotClmb]

Absolutely. Having a baseline is great. Worst case scenario get pre cycle bloods before every cycle to see if you've come back to normal before starting up again. At least that way your doctors won't be able to tell you're on roids. Not perfect but better than notihng.
And no problem.

i thought being on roids in canada wasnt illegal, i might be wrong though

 

[Apexvallen]

Its not like the UK, its illegal to use and possess. And regardless of the legality, it will still affect your insurance. Its a tough call to make.

 

[DepotClmb]

Its not like the UK, its illegal to use and possess. And regardless of the legality, it will still affect your insurance. Its a tough call to make.

oh okay thanks for the help.

 

[Nate10]

Looks good except the pct. Just do
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Will be fine , to be honest even 50/50/50/50 clomid will be good for that cycle.
Nolva maybe keep at 40 for first 2 weeks just because your a little gyno prone.

 

[Test_Subject]

Test e 500mg/ml Sunday nite/Wednesday morning

Aromasin 12.5 g



This is my first cycle and I will be taking:

Week 1-12 Test e 500mg a week (250mg shots) Sunday morning Wednesday night (250mg each day)

week 1-14 aromasin 12.5g EOD

I start pct two weeks after last test shot

week 14

Clomid 100/100/50/50

Nolva 40/40/20/20\20

my goal is to bulk up gain some size but stay relatively lean.
Any input is greatly appreciated thanks

Looks good but I'd think about dropping the clomid dose a bit. 100 for two weeks is going to turn you into a teenaged girl. You really don't need that much for 500mg of test.

I'd do 75/50/50/50

 

[JohnLong]

op im 6 weeks into my first cycle (420mg sustanon/week)
i havent touched aromasin yet.. and i wouldnt recommend starting it week 1
12.5 eod might be too much if your body can handle the excess estrogen
you wont notice changes until around week 4

if your slim i would also recommend consuming a little bit more sodium. im slim and it really makes a difference in your figure if your holding on to the right amount of water vs being dry. (this is skinny people advice lol)

i only plan on taking nolva during pct.. along with aromasin if needed
40/40/20/20
6.5mg once a week if needed

wish i had hcg