yes i will tracking macros i will be consuiming 3500 to 3700 calories I am naturally very slim as well as i dont put on weight too fast.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
My first cycle
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i am still not 100% sure on how to use hcg because some people say run it all cycle until one week before pct, others say run it only pct. That is why i left it out. is it possible that i run the cycle with out using hcg, or is it a must ?
Nate10
New Member
You totally can run the cycle without HCG no problem, and most likely you wont have a issue who knows. Everyones different but like everyone says better safe then sorry , specially when your messing with your body , you wanna do it right. By running test for that long your nads will definitely shrink some. No hcg will not give you Gyno lol. Are you prone to it? like had a little of it when a kid? Anyways if your concern with HCG is gyno, don't worry it will not affect that. Just run your aromasin 12.5mg EOD and your estrogen should be on check, get blood work and make sure it is on check, then up or lower the dose if needed.
alright thanks bro. yea had gyno when younger, to this day i still have some.
Nate10
New Member
From my experience and from years of talking to very experienced members on other steroid forums. Its best to run HCG while on cycle. To prevent it from even fully shrinking. Rather then trying to reverse the shrinking at those last weeks of pct. Always better to prevent then wait for the worst.
high-octane
New Member
thanks bro
Nate10
New Member
No problem man, but yea if your a little gyno prone. Definitely keep at aromasin 12.5mg eod , if you notice any sensitivity or anything on the nips change it to 12.5mg ed or even 25mg eod. Nolva keep at 40/20/20/20 and you should be good
Absolutely. Having a baseline is great. Worst case scenario get pre cycle bloods before every cycle to see if you've come back to normal before starting up again. At least that way your doctors won't be able to tell you're on roids. Not perfect but better than notihng.
And no problem.
sounds good. so this something i just came up with does it look ok
Test e 500mg/ml Sunday nite/Wednesday morning
Aromasin 12.5 g
HCG
Week 1-12 Test e 500mg a week (250mg shots) Sunday morning Wednesday night (250mg each day)
week 1-14 aromasin 12.5g EOD
Week 2-14 500iu of HCG per week ( 2 injections of 250iu every time i take test e)
I start pct two weeks after last test shot
week 16
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
i thought being on roids in canada wasnt illegal, i might be wrong though
Its not like the UK, its illegal to use and possess. And regardless of the legality, it will still affect your insurance. Its a tough call to make.
oh okay thanks for the help.
Nate10
New Member
Looks good except the pct. Just do
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Will be fine , to be honest even 50/50/50/50 clomid will be good for that cycle.
Nolva maybe keep at 40 for first 2 weeks just because your a little gyno prone.
Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Will be fine , to be honest even 50/50/50/50 clomid will be good for that cycle.
Nolva maybe keep at 40 for first 2 weeks just because your a little gyno prone.
Test_Subject
Member
Looks good but I'd think about dropping the clomid dose a bit. 100 for two weeks is going to turn you into a teenaged girl. You really don't need that much for 500mg of test.
I'd do 75/50/50/50
JohnLong
New Member
op im 6 weeks into my first cycle (420mg sustanon/week)
i havent touched aromasin yet.. and i wouldnt recommend starting it week 1
12.5 eod might be too much if your body can handle the excess estrogen
you wont notice changes until around week 4
if your slim i would also recommend consuming a little bit more sodium. im slim and it really makes a difference in your figure if your holding on to the right amount of water vs being dry. (this is skinny people advice lol)
i only plan on taking nolva during pct.. along with aromasin if needed
40/40/20/20
6.5mg once a week if needed
wish i had hcg
i havent touched aromasin yet.. and i wouldnt recommend starting it week 1
12.5 eod might be too much if your body can handle the excess estrogen
you wont notice changes until around week 4
if your slim i would also recommend consuming a little bit more sodium. im slim and it really makes a difference in your figure if your holding on to the right amount of water vs being dry. (this is skinny people advice lol)
i only plan on taking nolva during pct.. along with aromasin if needed
40/40/20/20
6.5mg once a week if needed
wish i had hcg
