My hypo hell

[BirdieNumNum]

im not sure if this is the best place to spew this, but I'm really out of options.

I started taking steroids age 17 like a stupid f*** I know and I was so naive. Continued taking them for a few years more or less without a break NO pct ... Not even the fact that my nuts where severely athtophied, my test level was 6.9nmol if I remember correctly. I then suffered for about a year lost so much mass, when and got labs that came back slightly higher but still tiny testis. I've since then done power pcts trying to regain size of the testicles but it just has never worked. I recently seen an endo because my quality of life was terrible. I explained everything of how my mood was so low fatigue was immense and how my testis are still that very same size from when I took steroids. I waited about 2 week for a reply and then I decided I couldn't take going to work lifting heavy ass shit with this fatigue so I've started on sustanon 250 2ml/week... Only to receive a letter from my endo - Blood work came back I was clearly gonadal. Test 13.3nmol/l (afternoon sample) .
Lh8.3mu/l FSh2.8mu/l

I'm now abit lost could do with some good input I am getting some hcg today anyway... Should I slip back off? But my testis are still the size they have been for years anyway...

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

I would be concerned about my mood and my fatigue level but it sounds like your main concern is the size of your balls. Who cares. Small balls come with the territory. Big deal. I'm 52 and trust me when I tell you that the last thing I want is a big set of saggy pendulous wrinkley balls. I'll ask my wife if she prefers my smaller balls and tighter sack vs. a sagging set of old man balls and I'll get back to you.
Seriously, I'd rather be on and be big and ripped with small balls. No woman has ever been attracted to a man because he had big balls but big and ripped?...

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Fair enough I could live with small balls but I have no sex drive at all absolute zero? Whilst not taking any supps

 

[BirdieNumNum]

And the frame of mind Is not normal even with than decent level of test... I just don't know think I need a counciller haha

 

[Wunderpus]

I would be concerned about my mood and my fatigue level but it sounds like your main concern is the size of your balls. Who cares. Small balls come with the territory. Big deal. I'm 52 and trust me when I tell you that the last thing I want is a big set of saggy pendulous wrinkley balls. I'll ask my wife if she prefers my smaller balls and tighter sack vs. a sagging set of old man balls and I'll get back to you.
Seriously, I'd rather be on and be big and ripped with small balls. No woman has ever been attracted to a man because he had big balls but big and ripped?...

I actually prefer my balls being smaller... More comfortable, and it makes the other member of the band look a lot bigger. Fuck it.

 

[insaiyan93]

I actually prefer my balls being smaller... More comfortable, and it makes the other member of the band look a lot bigger. Fuck it.

I second as someone who rides a bike as their main transportation life was a lot better when i was on and had smaller balls lol

 

[master.on]

HCG 500 IU 2x/week
retest in a month
and post results here
(also get tested for estradiol)

 

[Cleant1]

I second as someone who rides a bike as their main transportation life was a lot better when i was on and had smaller balls lol

I'm a tall guy, with fairly large nuts, and big ass thighs (Long legs, short torso... jacked legs, lacking chest lol). I fucking HAAAAATE having a large sack. That's a side effect I am looking forwards to whenever I get there. Shit gets between your legs, and you stand up, or sit down, and those fuckers get pulled back or crushed... sucks. I'm constantly adjusting my shit throughout the day, getting funny looks from people. Oddly enough, I have very low natural T.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

I actually prefer my balls being smaller... More comfortable, and it makes the other member of the band look a lot bigger. Fuck it.

That's what I'm talkin about Wunder. Small balls are where it's at.

Now let's talk about the real issues. The lack of libido and suppressed mood .
Let me ask a few questions so we get a more complete picture.
1. How old are you now.
2. How many cycles have you done and when did the the most recent end. I know you said that you were on for a while but what since then.
3. When was your last blood work done and what were the results as far as your Test level and E2. What are your total test and E2 levels.
4. When did your last PCT end.
Let's start there. We'll figure this out.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I had a few cycles lasting over 12 month some of them. At weeks of 4000mgs test some.. I'll get all my labs and post them. The most recent was average but I didn't feel great. My question for now is - I've started on sustanon 250 @2ml per week. I've had 3 shots and then I got that result of a decent natty test level. Shall I stop taking any supps right now or what? I'm amazed it was mid range and decent but I felt so crappy..

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Regarding libido I remember it becoming so intense and then dropping off probs due to estero but has never been the same

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

I had a few cycles lasting over 12 month some of them. At weeks of 4000mgs test some.. I'll get all my labs and post them. The most recent was average but I didn't feel great. My question for now is - I've started on sustanon 250 @2ml per week. I've had 3 shots and then I got that result of a decent natty test level. Shall I stop taking any supps right now or what? I'm amazed it was mid range and decent but I felt so crappy..

Wait...you were running 4 grams of test a week? For 12 months?
I hope this is a typo. If not, there's your answer.

 

[Wunderpus]

Wait...you were running 4 grams of test a week? For 12 months?
I hope this is a typo. If not, there's your answer.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. 4 grams for a year? I've never even Come close to that.... Wow.

 

[bigdeadweight]

You are already seeing an endo, keep with him and see what he can do for you. No point in jumping onto something else and hoping for the best if you have already started with the endo. Have a full honest and open discussion with him and see what he says. It took me a while but I get signed up to nebido for life and haven't looked back.

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. 4 grams for a year? I've never even Come close to that.... Wow.

Jesus Wunder that can't be right can it? If that's what he was doing no wonder he's fucked up right?

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Regarding libido I remember it becoming so intense and then dropping off probs due to estero but has never been the same

Did you tell your Endo that you were running 4 grams of test a week for a year? If not you gotta get with him and start from the begining and tell him the truth from start to finish. He needs to know the whole story.

 

[Wunderpus]

Jesus Wunder that can't be right can it? If that's what he was doing no wonder he's fucked up right?

Idk man, I've seen worse, but that's bad

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yes a very stupid young man I have been. No not every week, but for a good few months I went wild on it and smash tri - test 400mg 10ml in them weeks. My endo has written me off saying I'm clinically eugonadal... Can it be true that I have actually recovered my test over so long abuse? I have done a few power pcts (dr scallys or his colleagues whatever) - think this helped.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Yea he's saying that I'm fine basically and that my mind is this issue with basically suffering for so long... What can j do apart from follow this advice. I just hope it's true and that I have recovered. I have prayed for this many times lads.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I'll get all bloods before and after the pcts I have done in the past 2 years show u guys