My hypo hell

You are already seeing an endo, keep with him and see what he can do for you. No point in jumping onto something else and hoping for the best if you have already started with the endo. Have a full honest and open discussion with him and see what he says. It took me a while but I get signed up to nebido for life and haven't looked back.
He's not made any further appointments mate. I have mid range test but my balls just ain't what they were (no surprise) .
 
Did you tell your Endo that you were running 4 grams of test a week for a year? If not you gotta get with him and start from the begining and tell him the truth from start to finish. He needs to know the whole story.
I told him everything but he's saying I'm fine, even with testicles the size of when I was 10 .. I'm 24 FYI
 
I'm positive that the high levels of estro I must have had all them years (no ai's) has done the testicle damage, but we're do I go from here lads all advice is appreciated
 
@Wunderpus I'm tagging you because I want you to chime in if you think this is bad advice.

If it were me @Jay Monks I would do this. And I'm saying this is what I would do. I'm not saying you should. Some might tell you to quit while you're ahead. And I tag Wunderpus because he has alot of personal experience and I trust him to say that my idea is not wise.

If you are free and clear of all AAS at the moment I would get bloods done to see what your baseline numbers are now. I would do a 500mg per week Test E cycle only. No AI's. At week 6 (I would wait til week 6, some may say week 4) get bloods done so you can see how you react to a Test only run. Then you will know how your e2 reacts and you can judge your libido and your mood (depression, lethargy, etc...)
If you're curently on cycle or doing PCT this obviously will not work until you are free and clear and are off for enough time that you are "normal".
Also if you have had gyno in the past running the Test without an AI might cause issues. Only you would know this. If so don't do it or at least have something fast acting on hand just in case.

I don't want to give you wreckless advice. I'm saying that this is probably what I would do but I like to experiment. If anyone thinks that I'm giving dangerous advice please chime in and say so. And don't just wake up tomorrow and do it. Get more opinions and really think about it. I will say this. Don't do the stupid shit you did before. That was incredibly idiotic and has no benefit. You have an encyclopedia of knowledge here to learn from and get advise from and so so much personal experience. Use it.
 
@Wunderpus I'm tagging you because I want you to chime in if you think this is bad advice

I don't want to give you wreckless advice. I'm saying that this is probably what I would do but I like to experiment. If anyone thinks that I'm giving dangerous advice please chime in and say so. And don't just wake up tomorrow and do it. Get more opinions and really think about it. I will say this. Don't do the stupid shit you did before. That was incredibly idiotic and has no benefit. You have an encyclopedia of knowledge here to learn from and get advise from and so so much personal experience. Use it.

I get where you're coming from, but why 500mg of test?

I dunno. 4 grams of test a week for a year is just crazy. Who does that?

This could be a troll, but given the kid is young, I'd say he should tough it out. Fatigue could have any number of causes, but it's usually thyroid related after AAS abuse. But, I think this is time for a doctor.
 
I told him everything but he's saying I'm fine, even with testicles the size of when I was 10 .. I'm 24 FYI

OH god, I didn't see this.

Anyone who is obsessed with the size of his balls is just nuts.

This guy needs a shrink. There is nothing we can do for him here.
 
@Wunderpus I'm tagging you because I want you to chime in if you think this is bad advice.

If it were me @Jay Monks I would do this. And I'm saying this is what I would do. I'm not saying you should. Some might tell you to quit while you're ahead. And I tag Wunderpus because he has alot of personal experience and I trust him to say that my idea is not wise.

If you are free and clear of all AAS at the moment I would get bloods done to see what your baseline numbers are now. I would do a 500mg per week Test E cycle only. No AI's. At week 6 (I would wait til week 6, some may say week 4) get bloods done so you can see how you react to a Test only run. Then you will know how your e2 reacts and you can judge your libido and your mood (depression, lethargy, etc...)
If you're curently on cycle or doing PCT this obviously will not work until you are free and clear and are off for enough time that you are "normal".
Also if you have had gyno in the past running the Test without an AI might cause issues. Only you would know this. If so don't do it or at least have something fast acting on hand just in case.

I don't want to give you wreckless advice. I'm saying that this is probably what I would do but I like to experiment. If anyone thinks that I'm giving dangerous advice please chime in and say so. And don't just wake up tomorrow and do it. Get more opinions and really think about it. I will say this. Don't do the stupid shit you did before. That was incredibly idiotic and has no benefit. You have an encyclopedia of knowledge here to learn from and get advise from and so so much personal experience. Use it.
I think you make an excellent point.... not exactly sure it's the right thing but at this point it could be that the damage has been done... in that case I think your right in saying what your saying.... I'd like to add to that in saying that at some point it has to be about quality of life... so if running a 500 mg per week cycle is going to answer questions about your depression, fatigue, and libido, then I would say it's worth doing.... Atleast you have something to go on at that point.... I would however suggest running 500 iu hcg a week to see if that will help with your testicle issue....
 
Your all running away with yourselves. "Oh he's only young" "he's lying because of the amounts"- no mate ever since I was a kid defending myself is all I've ever had to know so losing to guys bigger than me pissed me off. So I smashed gear to fu**. Libido ahh well. Even on gear it is not the same as it once were, I believe some sort of mental arousal issues are the problem as I have had balanced hormones but still no drive. Anyway thanks melly Mel for your input. But like I said I started on sus 250 I've had 3 shots and now I'm taking no more. I'm thinking that if I crash I may take a little course of tamox and taper but that's it. And once again lads I am not lying.
 
OH god, I didn't see this.

Anyone who is obsessed with the size of his balls is just nuts.

This guy needs a shrink. There is nothing we can do for him here.
what is your deal? Can you not read? They are tiny. Is it normal for testicles to lose 60% of there size? Am I just to not care about this? .. Prick mate.
 
I get where you're coming from, but why 500mg of test?

I dunno. 4 grams of test a week for a year is just crazy. Who does that?

This could be a troll, but given the kid is young, I'd say he should tough it out. Fatigue could have any number of causes, but it's usually thyroid related after AAS abuse. But, I think this is time for a doctor.
My thyroid has been checked and it is fine.
 
I get where you're coming from, but why 500mg of test?

I dunno. 4 grams of test a week for a year is just crazy. Who does that?

This could be a troll, but given the kid is young, I'd say he should tough it out. Fatigue could have any number of causes, but it's usually thyroid related after AAS abuse. But, I think this is time for a doctor.
I suggest 500mg because from personal experience it will be enough to increase his Test levels to a point that if nothing happens as far as his issues go we can say that it's not his test levels.
 
Your all running away with yourselves. "Oh he's only young" "he's lying because of the amounts"- no mate ever since I was a kid defending myself is all I've ever had to know so losing to guys bigger than me pissed me off. So I smashed gear to fu**. Libido ahh well. Even on gear it is not the same as it once were, I believe some sort of mental arousal issues are the problem as I have had balanced hormones but still no drive. Anyway thanks melly Mel for your input. But like I said I started on sus 250 I've had 3 shots and now I'm taking no more. I'm thinking that if I crash I may take a little course of tamox and taper but that's it. And once again lads I am not lying.
3 injections is not enough to make a determination.
 
I'm trying to get this point across but it seems it is not working. I ha e suffered for 2 and half years. I done numerous pcts in this time. My most recent bloodwork test result was mid range ... After 6 months without anything. I received this mid range result after my 3rd injection. What do I do? Do I stop like I intend to? Because it's mid fu****g range after destroying my hpta. Amazing right? WHAT DO I DO. Please help me in simple terms.
 
I'm trying to get this point across but it seems it is not working. I ha e suffered for 2 and half years. I done numerous pcts in this time. My most recent bloodwork test result was mid range ... After 6 months without anything. I received this mid range result after my 3rd injection. What do I do? Do I stop like I intend to? Because it's mid fu****g range after destroying my hpta. Amazing right? WHAT DO I DO. Please help me in simple terms.

In simple terms stop fucking with steroids and listen to your endo
 
In simple terms stop fucking with steroids and listen to your endo
After more consideration I agree with Doc. Your past AAS usage was very wreckless. You do not sound like someone that should be using steroids. You're probably going to do more damage than good.
The advice I gave you, like I said, was what I would probably do but then again I would never have injected 4 grams of gear in a week for 12 months.
Ignore my advice and listen to your Doctor.
 
The doctor has said in eugonadal and I am to leave it alone basically. I will just live with tiny balls then and no lust for women whatsoever. And hey doc fuck you
 
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