My introduction.....

[Dr JIM]

Which ones, the labs seem so spread out, mate.
Could you repost my comments and enclosed article on the originating thread, "private MD labs". I have no idea how do accomplish that FEAT!

 

[idmd]

Well just finished my second day of a hypocaloric diet that was 60:25:15 for fatrotein:carbs. Not sure if I'm in ketosis (sometimes I can tell but I don't have any peepee sticks to test).

My only comment is wow my pee is foamy. Usually a sign of proteinuria I believe? Can a ketogenic diet do this or cause protein spilling?

 

[Dr JIM]

"A mans gotta know his limitations", LW, help IDster with his dietary endeavors, since it's your salient forte, IMO! Movie and actor of my introductory quote, anyone?

 

[LW64]

Well just finished my second day of a hypocaloric diet that was 60:25:15 for fatrotein:carbs. Not sure if I'm in ketosis (sometimes I can tell but I don't have any peepee sticks to test).

My only comment is wow my pee is foamy. Usually a sign of proteinuria I believe? Can a ketogenic diet do this or cause protein spilling?

The ketosticks are useless; they detect acetoacetic acid but not the one you're really after: beta-hydroxybutyrate (which technically isnt a ketone, but that's besides the point). It takes more than one day on LC to be completely in ketosis and to become fully adapted to it will take a few weeks.

70:20:10 or even 75:20:5 would be better.

The best way to get weight loss going is to go face down in animal fat.

Keep your water intake high (drink water all day: until your back teeth start to float) mineral intake high (potassium, sodium, magnesium). Drink salty boullion or homemade broth (two or three cups a day), eat dill pickles.

Unless you have a pre-existing kidney issue, there should be no problem with protein in urine. There will be a transient rise in uric acid (not because you make more but because the kidneys will process it slower) and possibly a transient rise in lipids (low insulin lets more fat out of adipocites) when you transition from mostly carb burning to mostly fat burning.

Watch your BP; it will drop...and watch the scale; your weight will drop too once fat burning gets going.

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[idmd]

So just a quick E2 comment. Through the use of an AI I've been undetectable, I've been at 10, 20 and my latest result on no AI for past 5-6 weeks is 33.

I feel great with NO SD at 0, 10, 20 but at 33 I now have no night time erections, I'm "turtling" all the time and my lowish libido is now zero. Feel good by all other measures.

Back to a low dose AI....

 

[LW64]

So just a quick E2 comment. Through the use of an AI I've been undetectable, I've been at 10, 20 and my latest result on no AI for past 5-6 weeks is 33.

I feel great with NO SD at 0, 10, 20 but at 33 I now have no night time erections, I'm "turtling" all the time and my lowish libido is now zero. Feel good by all other measures.

Back to a low dose AI....

What has your T level been while E2 was in the low 30s?

 

[idmd]

tT 800 and fT 25

What's funny is it seems like with all things being the same in terms of test dose and no AI E2 has creeped up over the course of the past 6 weeks.

I had sex today and was as hard as rock so he still works fine but like I said I've been turtling like crazy and desire to have sex was zero. I took 12.5mg aromasin at noon and have been having spontaneous erections all afternoon....lol.

I guess I've found out two things....I'm extremely sensitive to E2 and my sweet spot is 20.

 

[zkt]

I seriously doubt it. Rose`s text doesnt mention it protein reabsorption. More likely is more muscle catabolism than the kidneys can handle, rescent sexual activity or prostate leakage.
Got any electrolyte and creatinine labs handy?

Well just finished my second day of a hypocaloric diet that was 60:25:15 for fatrotein:carbs. Not sure if I'm in ketosis (sometimes I can tell but I don't have any peepee sticks to test).

My only comment is wow my pee is foamy. Usually a sign of proteinuria I believe? Can a ketogenic diet do this or cause protein spilling?

 

[idmd]

I seriously doubt it. Rose`s text doesnt mention it protein reabsorption. More likely is more muscle catabolism than the kidneys can handle, rescent sexual activity or prostate leakage.
Got any electrolyte and creatinine labs handy?

No but my peepee is normal again. Lasted for a few days in the beginning but went away. Also been drinking a lot more water....could've been dehydrated.

 

[idmd]

I had a hardon ALL night long and had multiple sex dreams about Natasha Henstridge and Emma Watson (watched The Whole Nine Yards and Harry Potter last night....go figure).

 

[LW64]

tT 800 and fT 25

What's funny is it seems like with all things being the same in terms of test dose and no AI E2 has creeped up over the course of the past 6 weeks.

I had sex today and was as hard as rock so he still works fine but like I said I've been turtling like crazy and desire to have sex was zero. I took 12.5mg aromasin at noon and have been having spontaneous erections all afternoon....lol.

I guess I've found out two things....I'm extremely sensitive to E2 and my sweet spot is 20.

A fT at 25 is real close to supra, if not there already. I'd say you can easily get away with lowering your T dose. Your SHBG isnt very high, so tT in the 700s or high 600s should be ok and it will get you a lower E2 to go along with it.

 

[idmd]

Alright I backed off my test dose and we will see what happens.

 

[idmd]

Besides squats, dead lifts and benching I've been introduced to the Prowler 2 sled for my HIIT. Anyone looking for HIIT ideas for the winter this thing makes me suck wind like crazy!

 

[toolman]

Alright I backed off my test dose and we will see what happens.

What are your dosages? I am at 50mgs 2x a week and feeling great. However a small lump has developed under one breast(Doesnt show as their is enough muscle, I just feel it) and I am having times when mid sex I am losing erection. Im guessing E but not due for blood tests until next month. I tested just north of the normal range last time.

 

[idmd]

Same as you....50mg twice a week. No AI. Erections not as good but libido up?

Seems like low E2 causes terrific erections and low libido and normal E2 causes weaker erections but good libido. I don't have bloods....will get them in a few weeks.

 

[LW64]

I tested just north of the normal range last time.

Then you aleady have a good reason to lower your dose.

 

[idmd]

So E2 must be creeping up. Erections are fine at first (~85%) as long as there's constant stimulation. Even 20 seconds of no stimulation (like changing position) and he starts going down. Sensations seem muted. Also, I have to build to orgasm steadily and finish within 5 mins or he goes numb - if I'm trying to prolong it he feels good and bam I lose all feeling in 5 seconds. But I'm horny as shit and keep wanting to beatoff to Stretch's avatar.

Contrast this to my low E2 state where erections are 100% (as someone pointed out elsewhere I can even feel my erection/pressure in my taint), he pops up and even with no stimulation stays up for mins. He's super sensitive and even before starting I feel tension/pressure at the base. I can go for 20 mins easily and when I decide that's enough I can orgasm within 20 seconds. But, I have to be talked into sex because the interest isn't always there.

Interesting....I may give blood tomorrow since this has changed in the last few days. Wondering where my E2 is at now.

 

[toolman]

So E2 must be creeping up. Erections are fine at first (~85%) as long as there's constant stimulation. Even 20 seconds of no stimulation (like changing position) and he starts going down. Sensations seem muted. Also, I have to build to orgasm steadily and finish within 5 mins or he goes numb - if I'm trying to prolong it he feels good and bam I lose all feeling in 5 seconds. But I'm horny as shit and keep wanting to beatoff to Stretch's avatar.

Contrast this to my low E2 state where erections are 100% (as someone pointed out elsewhere I can even feel my erection/pressure in my taint), he pops up and even with no stimulation stays up for mins. He's super sensitive and even before starting I feel tension/pressure at the base. I can go for 20 mins easily and when I decide that's enough I can orgasm within 20 seconds. But, I have to be talked into sex because the interest isn't always there.

Interesting....I may give blood tomorrow since this has changed in the last few days. Wondering where my E2 is at now.

We are in the same boat. WHen I shoot a lower dose, libido is not as good as it is now....but no losing erections mid sex. It really does blow. That said, viagra solves that issue completely

 

[idmd]

You'd think libido and erectile performance would always be linked but they clearly are not for me - they were when I was younger. The hornier I felt before the stronger my erection and orgasm and the shorter my wick. One positive of all of this is when younger and especially if I was with a hot new girl I struggled to not blow after 2-3mins. OTOH, I needed about 5 mins to recover and could go again this time longer.

Too be honest I'd rather have low E2 with low libido and a cock like a billy club because even if not in the mood I can make the decision to have sex....not the same with my erections.

BTW....even with low libido 60 seconds into it I'm well, totally into it. It's not like low libido effects my pleasure during sex. Just my "horniness" before starting and thus my likelihood for initiating.

But on the other hand there are physiological consequences to too low E2 so maybe I'll try some Viagra and let E2 to stay up??

 

[LW64]

How is it going with the lower dose? Give it a chance. E2 will come down and a small reduction in tT shouldnt make that much of a difference in sexual ability - if it does, then you reduced it too much.

You can also go to eod injections at a dose that's equivalent to your 2x/week dose and get a lower E2.