My personal experience with various Hgh- TP, Opti, GoodLyfe, Serostim...

Evom1

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Hey guys I want to post up my personal experience with various brands of Hgh over the past several years. We've all seen testing on these brands and know they are all great quality and there's no bad choice with them. This is more about what I've encountered in terms of cts (hand pain, numbness etc).

With that said, this is just what I personally encountered, everyone is different. But through my research it was always hard for me to find what others have experienced.

I will be commenting on what I experienced with these brands during a full blown off season where my body weight is generally around 240lbs-250lbs and probably 13% or so body fat. Very high carb, water and sodium intake. These factors are constants. Being a competitor I really don't want to be throwing in diuretics or pulling back carbs or sodium or that sort of thing.


Ultimately I tried to start with 1iu and slowly work my way up to the goal of 4iu. Some I started at 2iu and then ended up taking a few weeks off and retrying because of encountering cts

I'll rate the cts as follows:
Scale of 1-10
1 being zero cts and 10 being unbearable

TP/Meditrope
Mauve tops: 10/10 cts
these were pretty much unusable. Even at 2iu the cts was pretty rough. Tried to push it up but it messed up sleep so bad. I remember waking up with so much hand/arm pain that I had to spend the rest of the night sitting up in a chair. The numbness would last hours on the morning. Trying to pee in the middle of the night I felt retarded trying to aim lol.

Black tops: 7/10 cts
These were definitely better than the mauves. Still pretty rough though. I couldn't handle the cts at 4iu for very long but 2iu was OK. 3iu was doable to some degree if I laid the right way at night and didn't move. But if I laid the wrong way or tried to look at my phone in bed they'd start hurting quickly. Same issue as mauves though with hands being numb for a while in the morning. Like trying to cut up chicken, holding the knife was a challenge.



Opti
Grey tops: 4/10cts
These were massively better than the meditrope line for me. Initially I started too high because I went straight from serostim to these. So I took several weeks off and started again slowly working my way up. I was able to do 3iu with pretty minimal cts. 4iu was OK, had a couple times it woke me up but these were definitely much better

Goodlyfe
Grey tops: 2/10
These are the closest I've found to pharma. 4iu is totally good to go with these. There's a small amount of cts, but doesn't wake me up at night, no issues throughout the day, I can lay in whatever position at night and I'm good.

Serostim:
Verified straight from pharmacy: 1/10
Love serostim, just expensive. Had no issues at all with 4iu. Briefly ran 6iu and had a little cts but there was no way I could sustain the cost. That was only about 7-10 days. If money wasn't a concern I'd totally stick to serostim and probably do 6iu.





So a few notes
-Every brand was reconstituted to what testing showed they contained. So 4iu was truly 4iu.

-Again this is purely to give my personal experiences in an organized way. ALL the gh listed here has been proven to be high quality and purity. So I'm not saying any brand is better than another. I am just saying what I experienced for cts because that has been super frustrating for me over the years.

Hopefully this is helpful for some people. I've been around here long enough that you guys can look back at my posts and see I've asked dozens of questions with cts.
 
Hey guys I want to post up my personal experience with various brands of Hgh over the past several years. We've all seen testing on these brands and know they are all great quality and there's no bad choice with them. This is more about what I've encountered in terms of cts (hand pain, numbness etc).

With that said, this is just what I personally encountered, everyone is different. But through my research it was always hard for me to find what others have experienced.

I will be commenting on what I experienced with these brands during a full blown off season where my body weight is generally around 240lbs-250lbs and probably 13% or so body fat. Very high carb, water and sodium intake. These factors are constants. Being a competitor I really don't want to be throwing in diuretics or pulling back carbs or sodium or that sort of thing.


Ultimately I tried to start with 1iu and slowly work my way up to the goal of 4iu. Some I started at 2iu and then ended up taking a few weeks off and retrying because of encountering cts

I'll rate the cts as follows:
Scale of 1-10
1 being zero cts and 10 being unbearable

TP/Meditrope
Mauve tops: 10/10 cts
these were pretty much unusable. Even at 2iu the cts was pretty rough. Tried to push it up but it messed up sleep so bad. I remember waking up with so much hand/arm pain that I had to spend the rest of the night sitting up in a chair. The numbness would last hours on the morning. Trying to pee in the middle of the night I felt retarded trying to aim lol.

Black tops: 7/10 cts
These were definitely better than the mauves. Still pretty rough though. I couldn't handle the cts at 4iu for very long but 2iu was OK. 3iu was doable to some degree if I laid the right way at night and didn't move. But if I laid the wrong way or tried to look at my phone in bed they'd start hurting quickly. Same issue as mauves though with hands being numb for a while in the morning. Like trying to cut up chicken, holding the knife was a challenge.



Opti
Grey tops: 4/10cts
These were massively better than the meditrope line for me. Initially I started too high because I went straight from serostim to these. So I took several weeks off and started again slowly working my way up. I was able to do 3iu with pretty minimal cts. 4iu was OK, had a couple times it woke me up but these were definitely much better

Goodlyfe
Grey tops: 2/10
These are the closest I've found to pharma. 4iu is totally good to go with these. There's a small amount of cts, but doesn't wake me up at night, no issues throughout the day, I can lay in whatever position at night and I'm good.

Serostim:
Verified straight from pharmacy: 1/10
Love serostim, just expensive. Had no issues at all with 4iu. Briefly ran 6iu and had a little cts but there was no way I could sustain the cost. That was only about 7-10 days. If money wasn't a concern I'd totally stick to serostim and probably do 6iu.





So a few notes
-Every brand was reconstituted to what testing showed they contained. So 4iu was truly 4iu.

-Again this is purely to give my personal experiences in an organized way. ALL the gh listed here has been proven to be high quality and purity. So I'm not saying any brand is better than another. I am just saying what I experienced for cts because that has been super frustrating for me over the years.

Hopefully this is helpful for some people. I've been around here long enough that you guys can look back at my posts and see I've asked dozens of questions with cts.
Did you notice differences in water retention? I would assume the worst CTS, the more water retention.

I ran Goodlyfe at 5iu ED, and experienced no CTS, other than waking up with numb has in the morning.

Right now running QSC kits at 5ius ED for months now, no sides at all, but were very cheap (70 a kit) direct from their factory.
 
Did you notice differences in water retention? I would assume the worst CTS, the more water retention.

I ran Goodlyfe at 5iu ED, and experienced no CTS, other than waking up with numb has in the morning.

Right now running QSC kits at 5ius ED for months now, no sides at all, but were very cheap (70 a kit) direct from their factory.
As for water retention I would just use the cts as a reference point.
 
i am happy there is atleast one guy on the board that shares my experience/opinion that pharma is far superior even to good generics
 
Did you notice differences in water retention? I would assume the worst CTS, the more water retention.

I ran Goodlyfe at 5iu ED, and experienced no CTS, other than waking up with numb has in the morning.

Right now running QSC kits at 5ius ED for months now, no sides at all, but were very cheap (70 a kit) direct from their factory.
I am running the qsc at the moment as well. I have had no cts at all however, when the 1st kit ran out and I started the 2nd i got some aching in my hip joints. I went back down to 2iu from 4 and it seems to have cleared up. will probably go to 3 next week.
 
I have had pretty much the same experience with pharma and generic GH. Been using strictly Serostim now for the last 5 years. Zero CTS at 4 iu per day, and the last 2 months none at 6iu per day. No water retention, even if diet is not so clean. Had the same experience when using Humatrope, Nutropin, Saizen, Omnitrope, before using Serostim.
 
Hey guys I want to post up my personal experience with various brands of Hgh over the past several years. We've all seen testing on these brands and know they are all great quality and there's no bad choice with them. This is more about what I've encountered in terms of cts (hand pain, numbness etc).

With that said, this is just what I personally encountered, everyone is different. But through my research it was always hard for me to find what others have experienced.

I will be commenting on what I experienced with these brands during a full blown off season where my body weight is generally around 240lbs-250lbs and probably 13% or so body fat. Very high carb, water and sodium intake. These factors are constants. Being a competitor I really don't want to be throwing in diuretics or pulling back carbs or sodium or that sort of thing.


Ultimately I tried to start with 1iu and slowly work my way up to the goal of 4iu. Some I started at 2iu and then ended up taking a few weeks off and retrying because of encountering cts

I'll rate the cts as follows:
Scale of 1-10
1 being zero cts and 10 being unbearable

TP/Meditrope
Mauve tops: 10/10 cts
these were pretty much unusable. Even at 2iu the cts was pretty rough. Tried to push it up but it messed up sleep so bad. I remember waking up with so much hand/arm pain that I had to spend the rest of the night sitting up in a chair. The numbness would last hours on the morning. Trying to pee in the middle of the night I felt retarded trying to aim lol.

Black tops: 7/10 cts
These were definitely better than the mauves. Still pretty rough though. I couldn't handle the cts at 4iu for very long but 2iu was OK. 3iu was doable to some degree if I laid the right way at night and didn't move. But if I laid the wrong way or tried to look at my phone in bed they'd start hurting quickly. Same issue as mauves though with hands being numb for a while in the morning. Like trying to cut up chicken, holding the knife was a challenge.



Opti
Grey tops: 4/10cts
These were massively better than the meditrope line for me. Initially I started too high because I went straight from serostim to these. So I took several weeks off and started again slowly working my way up. I was able to do 3iu with pretty minimal cts. 4iu was OK, had a couple times it woke me up but these were definitely much better

Goodlyfe
Grey tops: 2/10
These are the closest I've found to pharma. 4iu is totally good to go with these. There's a small amount of cts, but doesn't wake me up at night, no issues throughout the day, I can lay in whatever position at night and I'm good.

Serostim:
Verified straight from pharmacy: 1/10
Love serostim, just expensive. Had no issues at all with 4iu. Briefly ran 6iu and had a little cts but there was no way I could sustain the cost. That was only about 7-10 days. If money wasn't a concern I'd totally stick to serostim and probably do 6iu.





So a few notes
-Every brand was reconstituted to what testing showed they contained. So 4iu was truly 4iu.

-Again this is purely to give my personal experiences in an organized way. ALL the gh listed here has been proven to be high quality and purity. So I'm not saying any brand is better than another. I am just saying what I experienced for cts because that has been super frustrating for me over the years.

Hopefully this is helpful for some people. I've been around here long enough that you guys can look back at my posts and see I've asked dozens of questions with cts.
Thank you for the comparison. I was curious how the others stacked up. I will be sticking with GL.
 
Hey guys I want to post up my personal experience with various brands of Hgh over the past several years. We've all seen testing on these brands and know they are all great quality and there's no bad choice with them. This is more about what I've encountered in terms of cts (hand pain, numbness etc).

With that said, this is just what I personally encountered, everyone is different. But through my research it was always hard for me to find what others have experienced.

I will be commenting on what I experienced with these brands during a full blown off season where my body weight is generally around 240lbs-250lbs and probably 13% or so body fat. Very high carb, water and sodium intake. These factors are constants. Being a competitor I really don't want to be throwing in diuretics or pulling back carbs or sodium or that sort of thing.


Ultimately I tried to start with 1iu and slowly work my way up to the goal of 4iu. Some I started at 2iu and then ended up taking a few weeks off and retrying because of encountering cts

I'll rate the cts as follows:
Scale of 1-10
1 being zero cts and 10 being unbearable

TP/Meditrope
Mauve tops: 10/10 cts
these were pretty much unusable. Even at 2iu the cts was pretty rough. Tried to push it up but it messed up sleep so bad. I remember waking up with so much hand/arm pain that I had to spend the rest of the night sitting up in a chair. The numbness would last hours on the morning. Trying to pee in the middle of the night I felt retarded trying to aim lol.

Black tops: 7/10 cts
These were definitely better than the mauves. Still pretty rough though. I couldn't handle the cts at 4iu for very long but 2iu was OK. 3iu was doable to some degree if I laid the right way at night and didn't move. But if I laid the wrong way or tried to look at my phone in bed they'd start hurting quickly. Same issue as mauves though with hands being numb for a while in the morning. Like trying to cut up chicken, holding the knife was a challenge.



Opti
Grey tops: 4/10cts
These were massively better than the meditrope line for me. Initially I started too high because I went straight from serostim to these. So I took several weeks off and started again slowly working my way up. I was able to do 3iu with pretty minimal cts. 4iu was OK, had a couple times it woke me up but these were definitely much better

Goodlyfe
Grey tops: 2/10
These are the closest I've found to pharma. 4iu is totally good to go with these. There's a small amount of cts, but doesn't wake me up at night, no issues throughout the day, I can lay in whatever position at night and I'm good.

Serostim:
Verified straight from pharmacy: 1/10
Love serostim, just expensive. Had no issues at all with 4iu. Briefly ran 6iu and had a little cts but there was no way I could sustain the cost. That was only about 7-10 days. If money wasn't a concern I'd totally stick to serostim and probably do 6iu.





So a few notes
-Every brand was reconstituted to what testing showed they contained. So 4iu was truly 4iu.

-Again this is purely to give my personal experiences in an organized way. ALL the gh listed here has been proven to be high quality and purity. So I'm not saying any brand is better than another. I am just saying what I experienced for cts because that has been super frustrating for me over the years.

Hopefully this is helpful for some people. I've been around here long enough that you guys can look back at my posts and see I've asked dozens of questions with cts.

I’m assuming this review is based on goodlyfe’s previous batch? I ask because his current batch has a lot of dimmer which most steer clear of since it’s said to cause water retention and cts.

One day soon I need to run some serostim. I’ve been quite happy with Opti so it’s hard to pay the money for pharma

Crazy just about everything you use gives you cts. Maybe it’s your diet?
 
I’m assuming this review is based on goodlyfe’s previous batch? I ask because his current batch has a lot of dimmer which most steer clear of since it’s said to cause water retention and cts.

One day soon I need to run some serostim. I’ve been quite happy with Opti so it’s hard to pay the money for pharma

Crazy just about everything you use gives you cts. Maybe it’s your diet?
The batch I ran was J

It's possible, but as I said where I'm in bodybuilding I really need to push the high calories and carbs in the off season to put on the size. Prep is a different story

It's interesting though to note that my blood pressure always sits somewhere around 116/76 even when I had the most cts
 
I have had pretty much the same experience with pharma and generic GH. Been using strictly Serostim now for the last 5 years. Zero CTS at 4 iu per day, and the last 2 months none at 6iu per day. No water retention, even if diet is not so clean. Had the same experience when using Humatrope, Nutropin, Saizen, Omnitrope, before using Serostim.

jins and humas are my favorite, followed by saizen.
never had serostim since im from EU but isnt it also from Merck group who manufactures saizen? wheres the difference? fillers?
 
I use generic (6iu) from QS and I am not aware of any side effects. If I took the day I was a little lethargic. Now I take 6iu at bedtime and I feel good.
 
I wanted to expand my horizons and try different hgh. I'm still new to the scene. I have started with good lyfe(I'm out of his no hgh) and I have hgh from 2 other dealers. I have only used 2/3 sources of my high so far and goodlyfe has been better between the 2.
I ran goodlyfe for 5 months.

I have to say I liked goodlyfe better between the 2 and the prices were comparable.
 
Did you notice differences in water retention? I would assume the worst CTS, the more water retention.

I ran Goodlyfe at 5iu ED, and experienced no CTS, other than waking up with numb has in the morning.

Right now running QSC kits at 5ius ED for months now, no sides at all, but were very cheap (70 a kit) direct from their factory.
How are the results on QSC ? Have you ran pharma to compare ?
 
How are the results on QSC ? Have you ran pharma to compare ?
I've never ran pharm enough to ever be able to compare. In fact, these kits are the longest I've ever run GH before.
 
Have you tried the meditrope golden tops? I have a shitload of them, and I am thinking of getting some QSC HGH if the golden tops turn out to wreck my shit. I’ll probably grab them anyway… they’re cheap enough.
 
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