My Thoughts on GH

[Deleted member 123722]

I'm on my last kit of Goodlyfe HGH, which is quite affordable and those of who have taken it, know it's good to go, but after watching this video
View: https://youtu.be/5F7m8RHf2ZA
and taking GH on and off for years, both pharm and generic of various kinds, I have to agree with Iain in this video, that it may help 5% more and you shoudln't take it unless you have disposable income, and its better to use your money on food and gear in regards to muscle growth.

Even though Goodlyfe is affordable and is good, I'm not a pro, nor am I competitor, and frankly, I don't think it's even necessary because the kind of physique I would like to accomplish, doesn't need GH anyway. My levels at 5ius came back at 371, and other times I've taken different brans, 299 or 384. Nothing crazy. I'd have to be taken 10ius to get higher levels lol. So clearly, my body must suck at converting exogenous GH. I have done IGF-1 Lr3 before, and completely transformed, but I was also on gear then (var and tren), so how do I know it was the IGF-1, especially when tren increase IGF-1? I got really lean on it, but people say at best its a GDA.

And I wonder, if GH is just something people think they need, but doesn't do what they think. We know Growth Hormone doesn't actually build tissue, rather it is the IGF-1. And we also know, its not even the IGF-1, rather, it's the MGF that comes from IGF-1, which happens in the cell after training; and we know we can't shoot MGF exogenously, because it doesn't work for some reason.

So what do we take GH for? Fat burning, anti-aging, rest, recovery? Perhaps tendon growth, intermuscular water retention? Well I think you get better fat burning from clen/t3 combo, and I'm sure the rest can be achieved by other means as well.

I've been on GH for nearly a year straight now, and all I've noticed is that I sleep way better; fat burning, maybe it's kept me lean a bit since I'm not doing any cardio or really dieting. Recovery? Eh, that depends on my volume and intensity.

Maybe it is the icing on the cake, and maybe at high levels of competition you need it because you're maxed out on gear and genetics, but I certainly am not, and maybe its time to let it go lol.

I'm gonna blast 10iu ED to see if I notice anything crazy, until this kit runs out and then give myself a break

Anyone else come to the same conclusion?

 

[theotherguy]

I'm on my last kit of Goodlyfe HGH, which is quite affordable and those of who have taken it, know it's good to go, but after watching this video
View: https://youtu.be/5F7m8RHf2ZA
and taking GH on and off for years, both pharm and generic of various kinds, I have to agree with Iain in this video, that it may help 5% more and you shoudln't take it unless you have disposable income, and its better to use your money on food and gear in regards to muscle growth.

Even though Goodlyfe is affordable and is good, I'm not a pro, nor am I competitor, and frankly, I don't think it's even necessary because the kind of physique I would like to accomplish, doesn't need GH anyway. And I wonder, if GH is just something people think they need, but doesn't do what they think. We know Growth Hormone doesn't actually build tissue, rather it is the IGF-1. And we also know, its not even the IGF-1, rather, it is the MGF that come from IGF-1, which happens in the cell after training; and we know we can't shoot MGF exogenously, because it doesn't work for some reason.

So what do we take GH for? Fat burning, anti-aging, rest, recovery? Perhaps tendon growth, intermuscular water retention? Well I think you get better fat burning from clen/t3 combo, and I'm sure the rest can be achieved by other means as well.

I've been on GH for nearly a year straight now, and all I've noticed is that I sleep way better; fat burning, maybe it's kept me lean a bit since I'm not doing any cardio or really dieting. Maybe it is the icing on the cake, and maybe at high levels of competition you need it because you're maxed out on gear and genetics, but I certainly am not, and maybe its time to let it go lol.

Anyone else come to the same conclusion?

Maybe I missed it, but what about the hyperplasia, the actual increase in number of muscle cells and fiber from HGH? I would think that is an excellent reason to run it.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Maybe I missed it, but what about the hyperplasia, the actual increase in number of muscle cells and fiber from HGH? I would think that is an excellent reason to run it.

Yea but how would you know until you reach that genetic potential, hence why it's not worth it until you get to that plateau.

Also from Layne
View: https://youtu.be/AKKCLavkZw8

 

[theotherguy]

Hmm, well hyperplasia or not I'll be running it to help aid with muscle tear recovery. Hyperplasia would be a cool side effect though

 

[Upbeatrawfish]

I'm on my last kit of Goodlyfe HGH, which is quite affordable and those of who have taken it, know it's good to go, but after watching this video
View: https://youtu.be/5F7m8RHf2ZA
and taking GH on and off for years, both pharm and generic of various kinds, I have to agree with Iain in this video, that it may help 5% more and you shoudln't take it unless you have disposable income, and its better to use your money on food and gear in regards to muscle growth.

Even though Goodlyfe is affordable and is good, I'm not a pro, nor am I competitor, and frankly, I don't think it's even necessary because the kind of physique I would like to accomplish, doesn't need GH anyway. My levels at 5ius came back at 371, and other times I've taken different brans, 299 or 384. Nothing crazy. I'd have to be taken 10ius to get higher levels lol. So clearly, my body must suck at converting exogenous GH. I have done IGF-1 Lr3 before, and completely transformed, but I was also on gear then (var and tren), so how do I know it was the IGF-1, especially when tren increase IGF-1? I got really lean on it, but people say at best its a GDA.

And I wonder, if GH is just something people think they need, but doesn't do what they think. We know Growth Hormone doesn't actually build tissue, rather it is the IGF-1. And we also know, its not even the IGF-1, rather, it's the MGF that comes from IGF-1, which happens in the cell after training; and we know we can't shoot MGF exogenously, because it doesn't work for some reason.

So what do we take GH for? Fat burning, anti-aging, rest, recovery? Perhaps tendon growth, intermuscular water retention? Well I think you get better fat burning from clen/t3 combo, and I'm sure the rest can be achieved by other means as well.

I've been on GH for nearly a year straight now, and all I've noticed is that I sleep way better; fat burning, maybe it's kept me lean a bit since I'm not doing any cardio or really dieting. Recovery? Eh, that depends on my volume and intensity.

Maybe it is the icing on the cake, and maybe at high levels of competition you need it because you're maxed out on gear and genetics, but I certainly am not, and maybe its time to let it go lol.

I'm gonna blast 10iu ED to see if I notice anything crazy, until this kit runs out and then give myself a break

Anyone else come to the same conclusion?

I watched this and I promise Ian lies about what he takes. Dude doesn't even mention insulin with GH yet says he gained mass with just gh? Na bro he likes to act like he takes small doses to seem more elite then others. Just like he said bumstead was only on 400mg test. Trust nothing out of his mouth.
Yes gh alone is not going to put size on you, you need slin for that. Look at the change in Nick Walker? That is only possible with high dose gh and slin.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I watched this and I promise Ian lies about what he takes. Dude doesn't even mention insulin with GH yet says he gained mass with just gh? Na bro he likes to act like he takes small doses to seem more elite then others. Just like he said bumstead was only on 400mg test. Trust nothing out of his mouth.
Yes gh alone is not going to put size on you, you need slin for that. Look at the change in Nick Walker? That is only possible with high dose gh and slin.

I don't think Iain hides his slin usage. But not everyone should be using slin, especially guys like me who can get fat quickly; it seems just to make us fatter, whereas the skinnier guys, blow up on it.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Btw, I took 5ius before gym and I def noticed it lol.

 

[Type-IIx]

GH/IGF-I doesn't meaningfully contribute to human skeletal muscle hypertrophy in itself. It will do a lot for recovery, it does strengthen the connective tissue, it promotes whole-body protein anabolism (but itself is insufficient for skeletal muscle hypertrophy).

 

[Armada1]

For me, the main benefit from low dose GH isn't physique transformation.

GH allows me to increase volume, intensity and/or frequency without developing tendonitis or other issues that seem to crop up when I'm ramping up those variables.

It also diminishes side effects from gear for me

On top of that, I get some positive cosmetic changes and believe it aids in fat loss for me.

Like OP mentioned, of course don't use it if you can't afford it. But that goes for any PEDs.

 

[lilhawk]

He’s a lying idiot. What are the two things most responsible for the physiques of pros today? Massive GH and slin use. Maybe he should disclose his real dose of GH. It will absolutely change the way you look if you’re using enough, and using pharma GH. If you can use only two things it should be test and GH. Take 10iu per day pharma GH and your body will change daily. Pros will lie out their ass about what they really take to make it seem like they work harder, have better genetics than everyone else. There’s a reason a couple of well known coaches tell their clients to use as much GH as they can buy.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

He’s a lying idiot. What are the two things most responsible for the physiques of pros today? Massive GH and slin use. Maybe he should disclose his real dose of GH. It will absolutely change the way you look if you’re using enough, and using pharma GH. If you can use only two things it should be test and GH. Take 10iu per day pharma GH and your body will change daily. Pros will lie out their ass about what they really take to make it seem like they work harder, have better genetics than everyone else. There’s a reason a couple of well known coaches tell their clients to use as much GH as they can buy.

Well, I don't think Dorian lied about this gear usage. He said he took 1g of test and 500 deca, and I believe 8ius of GH. He touched slin later in his career and actually hated it, saying it added size but it wasn't quality. And you could tell when he did, because he looked like crap.

I wouldn't under estimate genetics; they are people who compete that don't take slin at all.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

As for myself, I'm gonna stop taking GH all together. Like I mentioned before, the MOST I ever noticed something, was when I got this apparent Pharm Grade IGF-1 from Sciroxx a few years ago. My bulk order was screwed up so bad, I asked him to let me try the LR3 he had, which only came 200 MCG, yes MCG vials, and cost 200 per 1mg; he gave it to me for free.

I only took 20mcg a day and holy shit. I leaned out and was always pumped. Again, I was also on anavar and tren, but ya... something was going on with that LR3.

But everywhere I read people say it's nothing special, and "EVERYTING OUT THERE IS FAKE UNLESS YOU BUY INCRELEX BECAUSE ITS SO EXPENSIVE." Little do most people realize, Increlex is so expensive because one bottle will last you an ENTIRE YEAR lol, and buying IGF from these research companies actually is more expensive.

Perhaps I just suck at converting HGH.

I recently experimented with some Ipam/Mod GRF, and you can feel those working right after you take them (the flushing face), but I didn't get tested after taking it.

 

[may2021]

I'm on my last kit of Goodlyfe HGH, which is quite affordable and those of who have taken it, know it's good to go, but after watching this video
View: https://youtu.be/5F7m8RHf2ZA
and taking GH on and off for years, both pharm and generic of various kinds, I have to agree with Iain in this video, that it may help 5% more and you shoudln't take it unless you have disposable income, and its better to use your money on food and gear in regards to muscle growth.

Even though Goodlyfe is affordable and is good, I'm not a pro, nor am I competitor, and frankly, I don't think it's even necessary because the kind of physique I would like to accomplish, doesn't need GH anyway. My levels at 5ius came back at 371, and other times I've taken different brans, 299 or 384. Nothing crazy. I'd have to be taken 10ius to get higher levels lol. So clearly, my body must suck at converting exogenous GH. I have done IGF-1 Lr3 before, and completely transformed, but I was also on gear then (var and tren), so how do I know it was the IGF-1, especially when tren increase IGF-1? I got really lean on it, but people say at best its a GDA.

And I wonder, if GH is just something people think they need, but doesn't do what they think. We know Growth Hormone doesn't actually build tissue, rather it is the IGF-1. And we also know, its not even the IGF-1, rather, it's the MGF that comes from IGF-1, which happens in the cell after training; and we know we can't shoot MGF exogenously, because it doesn't work for some reason.

So what do we take GH for? Fat burning, anti-aging, rest, recovery? Perhaps tendon growth, intermuscular water retention? Well I think you get better fat burning from clen/t3 combo, and I'm sure the rest can be achieved by other means as well.

I've been on GH for nearly a year straight now, and all I've noticed is that I sleep way better; fat burning, maybe it's kept me lean a bit since I'm not doing any cardio or really dieting. Recovery? Eh, that depends on my volume and intensity.

Maybe it is the icing on the cake, and maybe at high levels of competition you need it because you're maxed out on gear and genetics, but I certainly am not, and maybe its time to let it go lol.

I'm gonna blast 10iu ED to see if I notice anything crazy, until this kit runs out and then give myself a break

Anyone else come to the same conclusion?

I'd be interested in hearing what effect you notice at 10ius.

I noticed some injury recovery benefit from 3ius of gh over the past year when needed, but recently have had even better results with bpc-157 and tb-500: Addressing a pain in the shoulder or forearm, sort of thing on an as needed basis.

I think the benefits from gh are also relative to ones age.

When you run multiple things I also imagine it's hard to differentiate what role the gh is playing.

 

[Forthewin1123]

He’s a lying idiot. What are the two things most responsible for the physiques of pros today? Massive GH and slin use. Maybe he should disclose his real dose of GH. It will absolutely change the way you look if you’re using enough, and using pharma GH. If you can use only two things it should be test and GH. Take 10iu per day pharma GH and your body will change daily. Pros will lie out their ass about what they really take to make it seem like they work harder, have better genetics than everyone else. There’s a reason a couple of well known coaches tell their clients to use as much GH as they can buy.

He clearly said it's most noticed for top tier bodybuilders where every % matters.. but for the average gym rat/gear user/abuser.. cost vs gains it's not worth it.. he.also says if.you have disposable income go for it.. it.makes perfect sense.. you don't need.hgh.to build a great physique.. you can build a body better then 80% of people without it.. and it's true..

 

[Forthewin1123]

I agree with what he says here.. it's not nessacary for the average guy building a physique.. it's an expensive addition and for most it would be better money spent towards coaching or food.. it's a fair and sensible point of view.. yea no shit pros are blasting gh and slin.. we aren't pros that are gonna make a living destroying our health.. so why do it if.your goal isn't to make a living off of body building.. save your health and your money..
He even says if.you have disposable income sure go for it. But if you don't.. don't think you "need" hgh to get a awesome physique..
Majority of us on this forum do this for a hobby or to see what we can build.. we have no intention to become a pro and actually make a living ..while taking years and quality off.our lives.
Most of us would honestly get more return from investing in coaching or better food then hgh.. most not all.. but yea let's call him a lying piece of shit.. becasue he doesn't tell people and clients to do what he does unless.your seriously going for a career.. yea how dare he.. try to be sensible.. you guys are all.so quick to hate someone because their opinion or beliefs aren't the same as yours..

 

[TrEnsgender]

You should know how to use the GH properly, better get in contact with a coach, when your max is 5 IU how can you tell that its making only a few % ? That's in the most cases not true, taking GH is easy, but taking it effectively is a bit complex.

For example

To get to a big level the best dosages are starting at 8 going up to 15 IUs, a good dosage for most people are 12 IU, you dont need to split it, because its dump, the more gh you Inject the higher your Igf1 is elevated and longer up than the hgh half life by itself.

Take Insulin, hgh without insulin is just stupid. No not fast acting, for the absolut results someone should use around 100-150 IU Lantus, pre & post fast acting slin aswell around 10-20 IU.

The dosage of gear should be around 2g minimum i would recommend a high dose test because its cheaper and more effective than Nandrolone in terms of aromatization to DHT, and goes well with boldenone, they work synergistic with GH because boldenone is not only for muscle synthesis gene transcription its for performance. And a very important staple is Tren because it makes the satellite cells more sensitive to IGF1

Hgh + Lantus = more igf1
Tren= reacting better to igf1

These is a blueprint to effectively manage igf1 efficacy, you can believe it or not, 5 IU with a poopy dosage is not even a real TRT for people that make money out of BB.

If you spend your money on hgh, use it correctly.
Stay safe with the insulin

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I agree with what he says here.. it's not nessacary for the average guy building a physique.. it's an expensive addition and for most it would be better money spent towards coaching or food.. it's a fair and sensible point of view.. yea no shit pros are blasting gh and slin.. we aren't pros that are gonna make a living destroying our health.. so why do it if.your goal isn't to make a living off of body building.. save your health and your money..
He even says if.you have disposable income sure go for it. But if you don't.. don't think you "need" hgh to get a awesome physique..
Majority of us on this forum do this for a hobby or to see what we can build.. we have no intention to become a pro and actually make a living ..while taking years and quality off.our lives.
Most of us would honestly get more return from investing in coaching or better food then hgh.. most not all.. but yea let's call him a lying piece of shit.. becasue he doesn't tell people and clients to do what he does unless.your seriously going for a career.. yea how dare he.. try to be sensible.. you guys are all.so quick to hate someone because their opinion or beliefs aren't the same as yours..

I agree. And most people forget we are dealing with the TOP GENETIC ELITE ON THE PLANET. Even if we took everything they took, we would never come close to what they look like. So of course people can't believe that pros are taking less than many armatures, because they themselves are blasting 2g of UGL shitty gear, and not growing, thus, the pros must be taking 1000x more. There's no doubt there are pros who take a fuckton, but there are some who don't. I know one who never went about 750 test, of course stacked with other shit at moderate dosages. And he even told me GH isn't this miracle thing.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

You should know how to use the GH properly, better get in contact with a coach, when your max is 5 IU how can you tell that its making only a few % ? That's in the most cases not true, taking GH is easy, but taking it effectively is a bit complex.

For example

To get to a big level the best dosages are starting at 8 going up to 15 IUs, a good dosage for most people are 12 IU, you dont need to split it, because its dump, the more gh you Inject the higher your Igf1 is elevated and longer up than the hgh half life by itself.

Take Insulin, hgh without insulin is just stupid. No not fast acting, for the absolut results someone should use around 100-150 IU Lantus, pre & post fast acting slin aswell around 10-20 IU.

The dosage of gear should be around 2g minimum i would recommend a high dose test because its cheaper and more effective than Nandrolone in terms of aromatization to DHT, and goes well with boldenone, they work synergistic with GH because boldenone is not only for muscle synthesis gene transcription its for performance. And a very important staple is Tren because it makes the satellite cells more sensitive to IGF1

Hgh + Lantus = more igf1
Tren= reacting better to igf1

These is a blueprint to effectively manage igf1 efficacy, you can believe it or not, 5 IU with a poopy dosage is not even a real TRT for people that make money out of BB.

If you spend your money on hgh, use it correctly.
Stay safe with the insulin

Not everyone should take slin. People who are "hard gainers" can take slin without any issue; someone like me, that can lose fat or gain fat fast, should not.

The point of my post was, GH isn't for me precisely because I"m not ever going to make money off bodybuilding, as I do it for a hobby and myself.

 

[Upbeatrawfish]

He’s a lying idiot. What are the two things most responsible for the physiques of pros today? Massive GH and slin use. Maybe he should disclose his real dose of GH. It will absolutely change the way you look if you’re using enough, and using pharma GH. If you can use only two things it should be test and GH. Take 10iu per day pharma GH and your body will change daily. Pros will lie out their ass about what they really take to make it seem like they work harder, have better genetics than everyone else. There’s a reason a couple of well known coaches tell their clients to use as much GH as they can buy.

Spot on.

 

[Upbeatrawfish]

Not everyone should take slin. People who are "hard gainers" can take slin without any issue; someone like me, that can lose fat or gain fat fast, should not.

The point of my post was, GH isn't for me precisely because I"m not ever going to make money off bodybuilding, as I do it for a hobby and myself.

Honestly $130 every month and a half is well within my budget. I take it for the positive it does for my joints. In the past I would run test only at 750mg-1g and by the end my joints were beat to hell, on gh this no longer happens too me. Well worth it.