Need help. Deca and TRT dose with finasteride?

[FattyMcFatterson]

Has anyone tried a deca and TRT does test with finasteride? Sounds fascinating, but against traditional dogma. See reddit link:



Deca seems to REALLY shoot up my estro (just experienced my first boner failure, super not fun) and everyone else seems to love deca. I have plenty of experience with test, test & bold cyp, test & EQ, test & tren, dianabol, winstrol and anavar but for some reason deca does not agree with me. I find that odd since it is such a common choice. For reference, I have never had tender nipples up to 600mg test/week. Dianabol has caused some moon face but never tender nipples. I usually don't even bother with AI because it doesn't seem to bother me. I was on 600test/300deca with no sides other than a couple weak erections, followed by some normal ones, after a 4-5 weeks I had a full on boner failure.

Does estrogen just hit me differently? Or, is this guy on reddit on to something? Most of what he says makes sense but some is above my head. Does deca with finasteride prevent a ton of deca to DHN conversion and make deca a strong androgen with strong (or the same) anabolic properties? Has anyone tried this? Or do I just need to drop deca and stick to test/dbol?

Every cycle is run with 250iu HCG twice a week, balls never shrink, never seem to have a problem with recovery. PCT is 3 weeks of 1000iu HCG twice weekly, 20mg nolvadex, and 50mg clomid daily tapered down on the last week. There's usually a 2 week period where I feel down-ish, but I assume that is just me getting used to lower test as mine comes back online fully.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Jankauskas]

If you take Deca with finasteride you will bald twice as fast

 

[LeoTC]

FUCK Finasteride.

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

If you take Deca with finasteride you will bald twice as fast

This doesn't seem to be settled science. The chemistry doesn't make sense to support your stance and the Google seems to be all over the place on this with anecdotal evidence. DHN competes poorly with DHT for peripheral androgen receptors and nandrolone is only slightly androgenic.
Disclaimer: I'm not a chemist so if it does make sense but I'm just to dumb then please enlighten me.

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

If you take Deca with finasteride you will bald twice as fast

I guess my real question revolved around nandrolone being a stronger androgen when not reduced by 5AR enzyme. Is that really a thing? Is that the answer to guys that are more prone to deca dick?

 

[Sworder]

It's usually newbies that use Fina, the are scared of the sides and go apeshit on tons of drugs that will harm them more than help because of paranoia.

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

It's usually newbies that use Fina, the are scared of the sides and go apeshit on tons of drugs that will harm them more than help because of paranoia.

I agree that less is generally more, usually I run test and one other item, but this is my first try with deca...I think I just don’t like it. I’ll stuck to test or test bold from here on out. Probably add some Dianabol every now and then.

 

[Sworder]

I agree that less is generally more, usually I run test and one other item, but this is my first try with deca...I think I just don’t like it. I’ll stuck to test or test bold from here on out. Probably add some Dianabol every now and then.

You honestly don't "need" to run anything else besides test for the rest of your life and you can build a superb physique with that! I stick to Tren and Test, tren does the heavy building and I go low trt dose of test. That's just my personal preference you can cycle steroids a thousand different ways.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

If it’s anymore than 200 mg of test it isn’t a cruise(even that is high for trt). Adding deca and test is not a cruise...

 

[Blange89]

Wouldn't the finasteride limit your DHT, thus being counterproductive?

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

Wouldn't the finasteride limit your DHT, thus being counterproductive?

Makes sense to me, however the guy that posted in the reddit link says that deca becomes androgenic when not reduced by AR5, so no loss in libido. He claims he actually has increased libido and has excessive oil production.

 

[Dead]

Well no deca not converting to dhn would not make is a strong androgen I don’t think. But you may get more anabolic properties since it’s not being partially converted to dhn, or instead you may get more estrogenix properties since more of what converts to dhn will go to estrogen.

Secondly taking finasteride completely blocks dht and dhn so your dick won’t work at all.
And sometimes people take that drug and there dick never works again. Ever. Don’t dare touch finasteride

 

[Dead]

I’ll tell you what else will happen if your 5-ar enzyme is fucked. Sure u may get less hair loss and acne, but ur dick won’t work and any testosterone u take will have way more estrogenic side effects because what he said was right. Dht is antagonistic to estrogen. Not to mention fin also causes depression and all sorts of mental issues that dht plays a bigger role in than people think