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Bundothabum

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I’m new to the steroid world and in need of advice in dosing and which would be best for my needs and want, I’m 23,5’10’’,250, I’m overweight, I understand a lot of people would suggest going natural to get my body in a better/healthier state before juicing, but with my stubbornness I decided I will start right out of the gate powered up, I’m semi confident on obtaining what I decide is needed, leaning towards dbol, but any other “starter” info would be great, my goal to begin is to turn my mush into rock not really concerned on cutting up at this moment. Any info or suggestions would be appreciated.thanks
 
Do you lift?? How long?? What's your diet right now? You want your mush into rock? Dbol is a shitty choice to start with.
You need to answer these questions. Even after that I'll still tell you it's a shit idea. Your just going to put on more fat. You really haven't thought this through at all.
 
3 days a week ,5 hours each day, in gyms, all other days I “work out” out of hotel rooms, I carry dumbbells with me I do as much as I can with them after work I travel for work, my diet is mixed at the moment due to my work schedule at the availability of certain foods, I understand I will be bashed, but that’s why I’m here , all of you guys are the ones with the information, so if y’all strongly disagree with my plans or just think I’m a idiot, I more then likely won’t continue with my plans, this is why I am here getting advice
 
Brother @Bundothabum...

Gear is not needed to lose weight. It’s simple math. Burn more calories than you’re taking in. Research keto diets, live on healthy fats and proteins, cut out carbs and do fasted cardio. I’m trying not to bash you but you sound lazy AF. PM me and I’ll try to give you some good articles and advice, but don’t do gear.
 
I ride a bike, lift, or run before breakfast and follow a Atkins type diet when I want to lose weight. 45 minutes of physical activity each morning, on an empty stomach, and a clean diet will yield dramatic results. Please don’t use gear at your young age. There’s no reason.
 
Gear alone is not gonna turn your mush into rock. Diet plays the biggest role in achieving your goal of mush to rock. If you can’t stay disciplined on your diet when not on gear, what makes you think you can while on gear? Also do you know what your bf% is? How long have you been lifting for?
My advice to you, would be to leave the gear alone, get your diet and training on point, get bf% down to about 15%, then when you’ve been following this advice for at least 2 years then you can start thinking about gear.
 
3 days a week ,5 hours each day, in gyms, all other days I “work out” out of hotel rooms, I carry dumbbells with me I do as much as I can with them after work I travel for work, my diet is mixed at the moment due to my work schedule at the availability of certain foods, I understand I will be bashed, but that’s why I’m here , all of you guys are the ones with the information, so if y’all strongly disagree with my plans or just think I’m a idiot, I more then likely won’t continue with my plans, this is why I am here getting advice
I'm not going to call you an idiot man. But you said yourself your diet is a little iffy right now. You're working out 5 hours a day? Did I read that right? If that's the case weight should be falling off of you.
Get your diet dialed in and drop 15 pounds. Plus you're only 23. How many years working out?
Post up what you'd normally eat in a day.
 
This is what I needed to know, and I appreciate everyone for the advice and not bashing me to hard, I have friends that I would consider, uneducated juicers that push and they our insisting gear is what I need at this point obviously not friends. Guys just trying to make money , I really do appreciate the advice and I will continue to better my habits on diet and exercise and hopefully when I get to the point of needing gear , I can come back and get more information from you guys , until then, stay healthy and pumped,thanks!
 
Diet and cardio. Hit weights. Try to go 5 days a week. Slow down on carbs and junk food. Drop all sugar. Deff Do not run dbol while over weight. You'll regret it. If anything if your dead set on gear get blood work and see if you can get TRT. Don't broscience it man. You'll hate yourself for it later.
 
I'm not going to call you an idiot man. But you said yourself your diet is a little iffy right now. You're working out 5 hours a day? Did I read that right? If that's the case weight should be falling off of you.
Get your diet dialed in and drop 15 pounds. Plus you're only 23. How many years working out?
Post up what you'd normally eat in a day.
That is correct , I don’t have a ton of fat on me but I do have trouble areas that I have never been able to rid of I have a serious case of man boobs that I’m unable to rid of or tone, and it seems like the last layer of fat I have is stuck and I continue to build muscle underneath but the fat still sits on top just floating there, but the diet is eggs bacon morning, lunch peanut butter sandwich, dinner is my big meal that is mainly red meats
 
That is correct , I don’t have a ton of fat on me but I do have trouble areas that I have never been able to rid of I have a serious case of man boobs that I’m unable to rid of or tone, and it seems like the last layer of fat I have is stuck and I continue to build muscle underneath but the fat still sits on top just floating there, but the diet is eggs bacon morning, lunch peanut butter sandwich, dinner is my big meal that is mainly red meats

Dbol will make man boobs worse. I'll put the house on it.
 
Dbol will make man boobs worse. I'll put the house on it.
The “friends” I mentioned earlier were the ones who got dbol on my mind, and get this. the reason why, they told me it would help with my man boobs, ha, goes to show something about people and how untrust worthy some can be
 
Seriously @Bundothabum, do yourself a favor and research intermittent fasting, keto diets, and fasted cardio. My first meal is after cardio or weights at 9am, and the last meal is no later than 7pm resulting in a 14 hour fast. Do this and you will not be disappointed.
 
The “friends” I mentioned earlier were the ones who got dbol on my mind, and get this. the reason why, they told me it would help with my man boobs, ha, goes to show something about people and how untrust worthy some can be
If you’re to fuckin lazy too diet and work hard, you’re probably going to be too lazy to pull bloods and do shit necessary. You think it’s a secret potion? They don’t work, if you don’t work. I am being a prick you’re being fuckin retarded in your thought process. You’re taking the lazy way out. Fuckin Dbol and you’re over weight? You want to get fatter and watch to raise your blood pressure to dangerous levels? You’ll Look awesome with hard muscles under a lot of fat. :cool: Seems like you suffer from low self esteem and think this will be the answer to your problems. Well you’re wrong. Stay smart and stay off AAS.
 
I understand a lot of people would suggest going natural to get my body in a better/healthier state before juicing

There's a reason for that...

You need a cycle of cardio and good diet. If you can't get to 12% bodyfat with just those two things, steroids are going to just be a waste of time because you don't have the discipline.

That's not an insult, it's the truth. My gym is filled with juicers who look like shit.
 
There's a reason for that...

You need a cycle of cardio and good diet. If you can't get to 12% bodyfat with just those two things, steroids are going to just be a waste of time because you don't have the discipline.

That's not an insult, it's the truth. My gym is filled with juicers who look like shit.
I maybe was a little harsh but the misconception that steroids will be the cure all is beyond stupid. You should ask a guy at my Gym who thought eating 2 whoppers at Burger King was a good idea because he was taking a gram of test. He thought because they have 1100 calories he would grow big. Then next thing you know he is going to the Dr for Gyno surgery. It’s seem like I hear so many other stories like this, it pains me.
 
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