New UGL called AgentYes

[heavyiron]

I think the solution is attainable on a practical level. For example, lets take the toughest critics on this board that have established themselves over a period of years and have them test products of their own free will. We agree on a set standard protocol for testing and then those members are responsible to follow the protocol and report back. Its not perfect by any means but it's a possible solution that has merit.

banner can test AP Cyp from WP. LOL!

 

[Mike Oxbig]

So far he's been very quick to e-mails. I sent the funds late afternoon and he claims it will be shipped today.

 

[getright1time]

I do have a question for Heavy. I am not trying to bash him nor am I trying to bash this agent yet.. But there are a few things that have come to my attention that are somewhat I wouldn't say alarming but maybe more so stand offish because things just do not add up..

1st You are on a board that as far as I know does not have this person as a sponsor yet you are trying to push their name. Although on your lets call it your "home" board IMF you are not posting up this information.. ( if I am wrong please lead me to the link and I will respectfully apologize. )

2nd This sponsor has shown he/she is a security risk she posts her information on the forums using her phone. Yes there are downloads that do mitigate some risks for phone use but lets be honest. If said sponsor had its own safety as its utmost concern they would not be doing something as amateurish as that. Not to include they are putting possible customers at risk by doing business in such a manner.

3rd This said sponsor has posted on a few forums that their carrier oil which is CLEAR is without impurities because of it's clarity. Also having blatantly implied any carrier oil that has a tint to it has impurities.. Which is absolutely absurd to imply such a thing.

4th You heavyiron was a supporter of one of the biggest scamming/selective scammers unclez. You have posted many labs and posted noting what top quality service and products he provided. Just like other sponsors I wont post because I do not feel it is fair to them but anyone who have been around for a while knows who is worth doing business with and who is not.. But what I find perplexing is that these labs use people like yourself to represent their products in one way or another because you have clout in the on line business and the unsuspecting "NOOBS" will trust what you have to say..

5th In my opinion although I just signed up on this site today I have been reading and lurking this board for a LONG time.. I find it sad that this type of business even goes on.. The customer is not who's interest is actually in mind.. it is the sponsor and however they can make that dollar be it fast or what ever BS they can come up with to keep reeling people in.. The saddest thing is that people cannot trust anything anyone says because there are to make crooked ass fucks in this game.. ANd I bet ol agentyes will be a thing of the past here real soon.. The only person having vouched for them is one person who has no fucking real respect by anyone on any boards. HE tested her rips. and he is a known fucking gear whore who knows absolute shit about anything in this game. another fucking product of BS sites like IMF.. IMF was probably one if the Z mans biggest supporters funny that that whole site is infected with unclez.org maleware shit. But who am I right.. Keep pushing your products bro.. its all good.. I am sure this post will probably get deleted. But As long as you get to read it first its all good.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Oh, incidentally MO your an obvious shill, so please cease the marketing BULLSHIT!

Millard
I was not referring to HI being a "shill", it's obvious he owns a company and will promote those products, which seems reasonable to me.
However I was chiding (MO) Mike Ox for not making a similar disclosure.
Regards
Jim

lol, what exactly are you implying?

 

[heavyiron]

I do have a question for Heavy. I am not trying to bash him nor am I trying to bash this agent yet.. But there are a few things that have come to my attention that are somewhat I wouldn't say alarming but maybe more so stand offish because things just do not add up..

1st You are on a board that as far as I know does not have this person as a sponsor yet you are trying to push their name. Although on your lets call it your "home" board IMF you are not posting up this information.. ( if I am wrong please lead me to the link and I will respectfully apologize. )

2nd This sponsor has shown he/she is a security risk she posts her information on the forums using her phone. Yes there are downloads that do mitigate some risks for phone use but lets be honest. If said sponsor had its own safety as its utmost concern they would not be doing something as amateurish as that. Not to include they are putting possible customers at risk by doing business in such a manner.

3rd This said sponsor has posted on a few forums that their carrier oil which is CLEAR is without impurities because of it's clarity. Also having blatantly implied any carrier oil that has a tint to it has impurities.. Which is absolutely absurd to imply such a thing.

4th You heavyiron was a supporter of one of the biggest scamming/selective scammers unclez. You have posted many labs and posted noting what top quality service and products he provided. Just like other sponsors I wont post because I do not feel it is fair to them but anyone who have been around for a while knows who is worth doing business with and who is not.. But what I find perplexing is that these labs use people like yourself to represent their products in one way or another because you have clout in the on line business and the unsuspecting "NOOBS" will trust what you have to say..

5th In my opinion although I just signed up on this site today I have been reading and lurking this board for a LONG time.. I find it sad that this type of business even goes on.. The customer is not who's interest is actually in mind.. it is the sponsor and however they can make that dollar be it fast or what ever BS they can come up with to keep reeling people in.. The saddest thing is that people cannot trust anything anyone says because there are to make crooked ass fucks in this game.. ANd I bet ol agentyes will be a thing of the past here real soon.. The only person having vouched for them is one person who has no fucking real respect by anyone on any boards. HE tested her rips. and he is a known fucking gear whore who knows absolute shit about anything in this game. another fucking product of BS sites like IMF.. IMF was probably one if the Z mans biggest supporters funny that that whole site is infected with unclez.org maleware shit. But who am I right.. Keep pushing your products bro.. its all good.. I am sure this post will probably get deleted. But As long as you get to read it first its all good.

1. I post about many UG labs, even ones that compete with each other. On many boards.

2. I don't have enough solid info to comment on this.

3. I don't know what the claim is exactly but the oil is clear.

4. I exposed Z's bad GH on several boards by posting labs that disproved the product. He lost considerable sales because of this.

5. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. IMF was not infected to my knowledge so not sure where you are getting your "facts"

 

[getright1time]

1. I post about many UG labs, even ones that compete with each other. On many boards.

2. I don't have enough solid info to comment on this.

3. I don't know what the claim is exactly but the oil is clear.

4. I exposed Z's bad GH on several boards by posting labs that disproved the product. He lost considerable sales because of this.

5. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. IMF was not infected to my knowledge so not sure where you are getting your "facts"

If you would like I can post you a screen shot it says the IMF web addy and the z.org addy AND 90% of the maleware comes from clicking on your links.

If you would read the posts this sponsor has made on IMF you would see what I am talking about in regards to her oils sterility due to its clarity.

Yes I do realize that you posted the results on the blue tops sold by him but I am also very well aware you were in the works with "helping" him getting that issue resolved..

I aint saying you are a bad dude heavy.. You post a bunch of great fucking info no doubt.. I just find if very suspect that you come to this board supporting a lab you do not support on your own home board. That to me does not add up well.. Maybe there is no ill intentions and I would never had posted on this board if I would not have ran across this post. But for such a amateurish lab I would not be putting my name anywhere near it.. AND no I am no sponsor I am just an avid reader of fitness articles and I don't like to see good people get fucked. I remember a lab called luck 7 back on IMF that went up in a fucking ball of flames and all the red flags where up for admin to step in and stop that shit an no one did and a lot of people got burnt..

And some of the shit this agent yes sponsor posts is absolute garbage.. Cant tell which end of her ass she is talking out of..


ALL I want is for this fucking community to wise up and start becoming a whole lot more safer.. Shit is getting way out of hand.. And another ORD is just around the corner if we dont get shit right now.. NO reason for dudes to be getting burnt..

 

[heavyiron]

If you would like I can post you a screen shot it says the IMF web addy and the z.org addy AND 90% of the maleware comes from clicking on your links.

If you would read the posts this sponsor has made on IMF you would see what I am talking about in regards to her oils sterility due to its clarity.

Yes I do realize that you posted the results on the blue tops sold by him but I am also very well aware you were in the works with "helping" him getting that issue resolved..

I aint saying you are a bad dude heavy.. You post a bunch of great fucking info no doubt.. I just find if very suspect that you come to this board supporting a lab you do not support on your own home board. That to me does not add up well.. Maybe there is no ill intentions and I would never had posted on this board if I would not have ran across this post. But for such a amateurish lab I would not be putting my name anywhere near it.. AND no I am no sponsor I am just an avid reader of fitness articles and I don't like to see good people get fucked. I remember a lab called luck 7 back on IMF that went up in a fucking ball of flames and all the red flags where up for admin to step in and stop that shit an no one did and a lot of people got burnt..

And some of the shit this agent yes sponsor posts is absolute garbage.. Cant tell which end of her ass she is talking out of..


ALL I want is for this fucking community to wise up and start becoming a whole lot more safer.. Shit is getting way out of hand.. And another ORD is just around the corner if we dont get shit right now.. NO reason for dudes to be getting burnt..

Z had virus warnings about his site/link but that was not on the IMF site to my knowledge. In other words, IMF was not infected with a virus from Z's site as far as I know.

The blue top issue was very complicated and I had a lot of knowledge about it because I was so pissed at Z. You can ask his lead rep OD about this. I absolutely came unglued on Z and OD last year. They provided e-mails from their Chinese source that looked like he was the problem and not Z. At that time I told Z that if he did not issue a recall I could not support him any longer. I then posted the info about the blue tops in Z's own forum to protect the members. This was after several tests confirmed it was fake. Several months later after Z had refunded the guys money I stepped down from Supporting Z. That was around April if memory serves.

You are obviously hiding behind a gimmick name so I think you have some questions to answer due to your low post count.

1. What is your screen name at IMF?
2. Are you a competing advertiser?
3. My guess is you do have a stake in this so you are trying to smear my name to advance your agenda.

You are the reverse shill. LOL!

 

[Millard]

4th You heavyiron was a supporter of one of the biggest scamming/selective scammers unclez. You have posted many labs and posted noting what top quality service and products he provided. Just like other sponsors I wont post because I do not feel it is fair to them but anyone who have been around for a while knows who is worth doing business with and who is not.. But what I find perplexing is that these labs use people like yourself to represent their products in one way or another because you have clout in the on line business and the unsuspecting "NOOBS" will trust what you have to say..

This is a risk that everyone who chooses to be a company rep faces. Most sources turn bad. Most are eventually busted. And many customers are left out of money with no product. The longer the source is in business, the greater chance that this scenario is played out. This is the nature of this particular business.

Several members have asked me if they should become a rep for 'xyz' source. I've always warned them that any association with the source could taint their credibility with any (un)intentional lapses in customer service by the source.

So given the risk inherent in becoming a rep for a third-party company, anyone who chooses to do so should do everything possible to maintain their credibility.

The number one recommendation is to never become a shill for the company or blindly endorse their products. Limit any posts to informational posts rather than promotional posts. Any information shared should be solid, quality, verfiable information.

The information may or may not benefit the 'employer'. But above all, it must be true and verifiable.

In sum, company reps should avoid following approach by reps such as matthewjasper. Instead, they should approach the position more like heavyiron. From a web publisher's perspective, most of the posts by heavyiron add informative value to the discussion while disclosing any associations. Matthewjasper, not so much.

Some may consider reps like heavyiron worse than matthewjasper simply because they contribute useful information and are more credible(!) But I think by honestly providing disclosure, it gives all readers a chance to consider any potential bias.

It all comes down to the question of 'what is most credible (ethical) way of being a company rep?'

 

[getright1time]

Z had virus warnings about his site/link but that was not on the IMF site to my knowledge. In other words, IMF was not infected with a virus from Z's site as far as I know.

The blue top issue was very complicated and I had a lot of knowledge about it because I was so pissed at Z. You can ask his lead rep OD about this. I absolutely came unglued on Z and OD last year. They provided e-mails from their Chinese source that looked like he was the problem and not Z. At that time I told Z that if he did not issue a recall I could not support him any longer. I then posted the info about the blue tops in Z's own forum to protect the members. This was after several tests confirmed it was fake. Several months later after Z had refunded the guys money I stepped down from Supporting Z. That was around April if memory serves.

You are obviously hiding behind a gimmick name so I think you have some questions to answer due to your low post count.

1. What is your screen name at IMF?
2. Are you a competing advertiser?
3. My guess is you do have a stake in this so you are trying to smear my name to advance your agenda.

You are the reverse shill. LOL!

LOL to 1,2,3,and the reverse shill.. great words from HEAVYIRON nice straw man argument.

1 I do not have a handle on IMF. after all the shit that went down and all the sponsors were deleted I stepped away from that site as a member I do still read over the forums but behind proxies and VPN because it is an absolute unsafe site like many others.

2 no I am not. You do not know me personally heavy but in the past we spoke many times over PM on that site. and another Site called EB before it was taken down before Z came back as a new name under a new board called MC.. I would never sell gear nor would I purchase gear over the net. To much of a security risk these days. And those that do I sincerely hope that they are taking the steps to protect themselves.

3 Yes you are right I am using a name I have never used before because after I have said all I am going to say on this subject I will no longer post on this board. And it is all a part of security.

I am not trying to smear your name I really am not.. If you think about it logically and you were to put yourself in someone else's shoes I think you could see where I would come to the conclusions that I have come to.. I actually used to speak very highly of you and think very highly of you to be 100% honest. but I do feel that you have some type of stake in putting this unknown lab out there. On IMF it is all fun and game you talk about seeing her pussy and seeing her tits and what not but over here it is all business.. Why will you not put your name on her product on your on home board that is really my question in this.. Maybe in the same way some have considered maybe you had some dealing with benj and the lucky7 brand that fucked so many people that you turned a blind eye to.

Maybe I am just completely fucking stupid and you are doing all this shit for the betterment of the community just like these GH and test protocols that are scientifically proven to conclude whether or not said compounds are legit or not.. But they do not take into account the variable that can construed a test in vast ways.

If you are up set that I have in some way called you out over this lab and you are becoming defensive that is because of some other reason afar from me and my posts here in this forum.. I get you are a respected member in this community and I am not trying to diminish that standing in which you have here. But sometimes we lose sight of what may actually be going on. And sometimes someone has to ask the questions that no one else wants to ask because people are so worried about there rep in this game.. ALL I AM WORRIED ABOUT IS SECURITY AND DUDES NOT GETTING FUCKED OVER BY BS LABS.. That is my only agenda.

 

[heavyiron]

LOL to 1,2,3,and the reverse shill.. great words from HEAVYIRON nice straw man argument.

1 I do not have a handle on IMF. after all the shit that went down and all the sponsors were deleted I stepped away from that site as a member I do still read over the forums but behind proxies and VPN because it is an absolute unsafe site like many others.

2 no I am not. You do not know me personally heavy but in the past we spoke many times over PM on that site. and another Site called EB before it was taken down before Z came back as a new name under a new board called MC.. I would never sell gear nor would I purchase gear over the net. To much of a security risk these days. And those that do I sincerely hope that they are taking the steps to protect themselves.

3 Yes you are right I am using a name I have never used before because after I have said all I am going to say on this subject I will no longer post on this board. And it is all a part of security.

I am not trying to smear your name I really am not.. If you think about it logically and you were to put yourself in someone else's shoes I think you could see where I would come to the conclusions that I have come to.. I actually used to speak very highly of you and think very highly of you to be 100% honest. but I do feel that you have some type of stake in putting this unknown lab out there. On IMF it is all fun and game you talk about seeing her pussy and seeing her tits and what not but over here it is all business.. Why will you not put your name on her product on your on home board that is really my question in this.. Maybe in the same way some have considered maybe you had some dealing with benj and the lucky7 brand that fucked so many people that you turned a blind eye to.

Maybe I am just completely fucking stupid and you are doing all this shit for the betterment of the community just like these GH and test protocols that are scientifically proven to conclude whether or not said compounds are legit or not.. But they do not take into account the variable that can construed a test in vast ways.

If you are up set that I have in some way called you out over this lab and you are becoming defensive that is because of some other reason afar from me and my posts here in this forum.. I get you are a respected member in this community and I am not trying to diminish that standing in which you have here. But sometimes we lose sight of what may actually be going on. And sometimes someone has to ask the questions that no one else wants to ask because people are so worried about there rep in this game.. ALL I AM WORRIED ABOUT IS SECURITY AND DUDES NOT GETTING FUCKED OVER BY BS LABS.. That is my only agenda.

Incorrect MC has nothing to do with Z just fyi.

At IMF I have posted in her forum so you are incorrect on that also.

Ben was banned fom IMF and his forum deleted to protect the members. You are incorrect again.

You are a gimmick posting that IMF has maleware and you are pushing an obvious agenda.

 

[getright1time]

This is a risk that everyone who chooses to be a company rep faces. Most sources turn bad. Most are eventually busted. And many customers are left out of money with no product. The longer the source is in business, the greater chance that this scenario is played out. This is the nature of this particular business.

Several members have asked me if they should become a rep for 'xyz' source. I've always warned them that any association with the source could taint their credibility with any (un)intentional lapses in customer service by the source.

So given the risk inherent in becoming a rep for a third-party company, anyone who chooses to do so should do everything possible to maintain their credibility.

The number one recommendation is to never become a shill for the company or blindly endorse their products. Limit any posts to informational posts rather than promotional posts. Any information shared should be solid, quality, verfiable information.

The information may or may not benefit the 'employer'. But above all, it must be true and verifiable.

In sum, company reps should avoid following approach by reps such as matthewjasper. Instead, they should approach the position more like heavyiron. From a web publisher's perspective, most of the posts by heavyiron add informative value to the discussion while disclosing any associations. Matthewjasper, not so much.

Some may consider reps like heavyiron worse than matthewjasper simply because they contribute useful information and are more credible(!) But I think by honestly providing disclosure, it gives all readers a chance to consider any potential bias.

It all comes down to the question of 'what is most credible (ethical) way of being a company rep?'

In all fairness if a person reps for a company they are branding their name to it intentionally or unintentionally. It is all in how the reader perceives it. People go with certain labs because of who is supporting said lab. 99.99% of the time.

Lets say HI was a rep for company X if company x has a bad batch the majority of people will group HI with company X. Based on the facts that most people do not understand the relationship between vendor/sponsor and rep.

And to be honest legally it is irresponsible for a rep to back a product. Or to suggest a certain compound of a company. A rep needs to do nothing but relay messages to and from vendor/sponsor to ensure addiquit communication between parties.


I totally understand where you are coming from. I do. And I agree HI has and does contribute enormous amounts of useful information to this community. I was just very surprised when I seen this thread. And to be honest I had to ask why. I have still yet to be given an answer. Fully knowing, I would not get a real answer to the question at hand..

 

[Millard]

In all fairness if a person reps for a company they are branding their name to it intentionally or unintentionally. It is all in how the reader perceives it. People go with certain labs because of who is supporting said lab. 99.99% of the time.

Lets say HI was a rep for company X if company x has a bad batch the majority of people will group HI with company X. Based on the facts that most people do not understand the relationship between vendor/sponsor and rep.

True. And often unfortunate. This is something that should be given much consideration before anyone decides to be a company rep.

Prospective reps need to have a clear agreement with company about their roles. How are they representing the company? Are they charged with providing information? Facilitating communication? Endorsing the product?

 

[heavyiron]

I think the difference between me and a rep is I will absolutely post up a negative lab result. I don't know too many reps willing to do this. My history speaks for itself. I have routinely posted labs of various advertisers. If the labs are good or bad they get posted.

This vendor is no different.

 

[getright1time]

Incorrect MC has nothing to do with Z just fyi.

At IMF I have posted in her forum so you are incorrect on that also.

Ben was banned fom IMF and his forum deleted to protect the members. You are incorrect again.

You are a gimmick posting that IMF has maleware and you are pushing an obvious agenda.

I am surprised at the lack of comprehension from you heavy iron.

First of I never said you did not post in her section on IMF. It is obvious that you have. Anyone who is not a member can read your posts.. OBVIOUSLY.. SO why would I make such a futile statement.

second Ben was only deleted after it was brought to your attention that he was using your board handle as the receiver for WU payments. TRUE we both know it is...

NO MC has nothing to do with Z. Z changed his name to cabrrea or how ever you spell it.. No more than two weeks after EB went down the Z site went down MC came online with all the same reps OD and a bunch of the other Z reps.. It don't take a rocket scientists to add 2+2 bro. You may think you are pulling the wool over everyone's eyes but people are not stupid buddy. Lets stop the bullshit right here.. Stop with your BS replies and and give a half assed attempt of a reply.


I have uploaded a picture of the malware from IMF linking to unclez.org.

 

[heavyiron]

LOOK at my sig at IMF and ASF. =) Look at my posts in her forums on both sites. I'm posting similar content on those sites as here. Not sure what you are accusing me of.

Carrea is not Z. Z is working on something else since he and OD and Knights parted ways.

Ben was given a time frame to explain that his supplier ripped him off. During that time he began paying members back. He posted openly about the problem then his forum was deleted once the members had both sides of the story. You seriously do not know any of the details and your accusations are based on a lack of information and misinformation PERIOD.

You stated IMF was infected with Malware. It is not. Your chrome warning is just a warning about Z's site. Warnings do not equal infection just fyi. Z's site may or may not be infected. IMF is NOT.

You are a gimmick with an agenda.

 

[getright1time]

Really all I want is for the community to wake up and to stop being so unsafe from internet security to fucking with these fly by night BS labs.. Very few Open source dom labs stay in business for any real length of time usually due to they are in it for a few quick bucks then they fucking duck out on everyone..

Even int sources are fucking dirty as shit.. It is really hard to find the good sources anymore because we are being over whelmed with these fucking garbage ass labs who take short cuts to sell gear come up with outlandish sales gimmicks and what not..

We need to go back to the way it was closed fucking boards where people had to be vetted and people had to be referred to a lab to get shit. MAybe I am a overly cautious person. who knows but what is going on now is not in the best interest of the community and I am not talking about you directly HI I am talking about how the community carries itself.

Using these labs who dont even take the proper steps to ensure security where does that leave the customer when LE kicks in their door. In the same fucking boat as them.. WHY on earth would guys want to do business with people like that.. There are much safer ways to get such products then to put yourself out there in such a manner..

But maybe I am wrong who knows. I hope I am..

 

[getright1time]

LOOK at my sig at IMF and ASF. =) Look at my posts in her forums on both sites. I'm posting similar content on those sites as here. Not sure what you are accusing me of.

Carrea is not Z. Z is working on something else since he and OD and Knights parted ways.

Ben was given a time frame to explain that his supplier ripped him off. During that time he began paying members back. He posted openly about the problem then his forum was deleted once the members had both sides of the story. You seriously do not know any of the details and your accusations are based on a lack of information and misinformation PERIOD.

You stated IMF was infected with Malware. It is not. Your chrome warning is just a warning about Z's site. Warnings do not equal infection just fyi. Z's site may or may not be infected. IMF is NOT.

You are a gimmick with an agenda.

You are full of shit and cannot read.. In the picture it specifically says that google chrome has blocked access to this page on IMF, CONTENT from unclez.org a known maleware distributor, has been INSERTED into this web page IE ( IMF WEB PAGE ). F

For someone who claims to be so intelligent I am surprised that, that got pasted you. Or maybe it is the fact that you are upset about the post that I am making and you are losing sight of your points you are trying to make and you are scrambling to disprove me.??? who knows only you do.


Are you talking about the mass spec that ordawg supposedly had done on her var????

Here is a hint bro maybe you should tell your little minion girl to keep her mouth shut.. About what is going on behind closed doors.. Because she is posting up shit on different sites and yes I seen how you and OD where trying to be all slick about the fact that her var came back good.. \

The more you reply dude the more you confirm the fact that you are no doubt in business with this bitch along with OD. Probably in the same manner as you were with ben because like ben said you where his finacial backer.. But I guess I am not in the know am I.. I also know who sent you the PM's about Ben using your board handle as a receiver name and seen the PM's where you told dude not to say anything for a while..

The more I think about it the more I am sure you are part of a bigger scam. And I am sure it will all come to light one day.. Not everyone in Colorado can hide bro..

 

[heavyiron]

OK, I'm done arguing with some gimmick about sensitive info when you claim you don't want sensitive info on the boards. You have tried to steer this thread off into your smear campaign. You have no clue what you are posting about.

OD did not conduct the mass spec. You are grasping at straws.

If you had PM'd me under your original handle I would have answered anything you want. Instead you come here to smear me and IMF.

I'm not in business with this vendor. I'm running a test. I will post the results whether they are good or bad.

Please stop cluttering up my thread.

 

[getright1time]

OK, I'm done arguing with some gimmick about sensitive info when you claim you don't want sensitive info on the boards. You have tried to steer this thread off into your smear campaign. You have no clue what you are posting about.

OD did not conduct the mass spec. You are grasping at straws.

If you had PM'd me under your original handle I would have answered anything you want. Instead you come here to smear me and IMF.

I'm not in business with this vendor. I'm running a test. I will post the results whether they are good or bad.

Please stop cluttering up my thread.

BS because I am the dude you told to keep quite about ben when he sent me the fucking info dude........ SO I am in the fucking know. Would you like me to post the god damn post by agent yes saying OD from MC was conducting the fucking mass spec on her products because just like the fucking picture of the malware that you so weakly tried to refute I can post them up as well.. Maybe OD did not do the mass specs but Agent yes sure as hell is fucking telling people she is having him do testing for her..................

Also to note you have not gone on IMF and open supported this fucking lab in any way as you have done here.. You want to call me a fucking gimmick that's cool bro I don't mind.. But do you really think I would believe shit you would have told me, after you told me not to say shit about what ben had done and then later told me to post the shit up and just stay quite. And then asked me to stop talking about it after I started blasting people... Come the fuck on guy.. You my friend are fucking full of shit..

And you are in some way affiliated with this fucking trash of a lab and many others I am not here to specifically denounce agent yes but you have been linked to many many shitty labs and some how always come out spot fucking clean.. Seems awfully fucking suspect to me bro.

Grasping at fucking straws huh maybe you should check out some of the forums she posts up on there big guy.. Then you can call me full of shit. But in the end, we both know you know I am correct. Because I know you would want this info out being you have the communities best interest at heart right????


Also I bet these labs just so happen to come back very good as she has posted her powders tested out at like 98% but cant seem to post up any proof of heavy metal contaminants.

I guess everyone in this game is a dumb fuck minus you Heavyiron.. I bow down to you because I could not find it in myself to knowingly fuck people over.... And then be the buddy they can come to when they need someone to talk to ... No I dont have indisputable facts that proves my hypothesis, but like I have said it dont take a fucking rocket scientist to figure out, there is some fucking shady ass shit going on here..

 

[Dr JIM]

Goodness GRT that's pretty strong introductory rhetoric for your first few posts, BUT I wanna welcome you to MESO, as is, mate!