Not gaining shit from 700mg per week pharmacom test e

[Vomiit]

Hey guys, long time lurker, new poster. ALL ORDERS WERE FROM DOMESTIC, NOT A RE SELLER!
My very first cycle I ordered pharmacom test C and had amazing gains at 500mg per week pinning every 3 days. Went from 139 to 167 (im 5’6 and at the end of the cycle after water and fat was shed i ended up at 153)
I waited a few months, cruised on a trt dose, and now im blasting with 700mg per week on their Test E pinning e3D, and ive sat at 153-156 the whole time. What gives? Underdosed? Im getting bloods tomorrow to confirm. Im confused as all hell, and any insight would be awesome. (yes i know how to diet and train, ive been consuming 3400-3500 cals consistently, and the first cycle i began to put on unwanted fat when i ate above 3000. Protein is always at least 1g per pound of bodyweight, usually 1.25 or 1.5x bodyweight. When i bump cals more than this i accumulate fat way too quickly imo ) I will be posting bloods in a few days when i get them, but i know this much, on 700mg i should at least be holding some fucking water.

 

[ItsDaBoii]

You need to take 2000mg... you will look like big ramy in no time.
Seriously what is this shit post? Is pharmacom bunk or legit? How should we know? Get a blood test.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

They're one of the most consistent UGLs from every report i've seen, but they're still a UGL and no UGL has a perfect track record.

So it's very well possible that they'll have a bad batch from time to time, but i'm going to wait for the test results before i speculate any further on that.

 

[Vomiit]

You need to take 2000mg... you will look like big ramy in no time.
Seriously what is this shit post? Is pharmacom bunk or legit? How should we know? Get a blood test.

you done busting my sack bro?
read the post, im getting bloods TODAY. Waiting on the lab to open up, already ordered the tests.

 

[ItsDaBoii]

you done busting my sack bro?
read the post, im getting bloods TODAY. Waiting on the lab to open up, already ordered the tests.

So why are you posting this before getting the test then?

 

[Vomiit]

They're one of the most consistent UGLs from every report i've seen, but they're still a UGL and no UGL has a perfect track record.

So it's very well possible that they'll have a bad batch from time to time, but i'm going to wait for the test results before i speculate any further on that.

Right. They are the company i cruised on, and no problems. However when i started this cycle i still feel like im cruising on a 120 per week trt dose. I’ve received a few different shipments of vials while on this cycle so unless they kept sending me garbage, something else is going on here...We’ll see soon enough. Thinking about switching to bioteq, thoughts?

 

[Vomiit]

So why are you posting this before getting the test then?

Checking to see if anybody has had the same experience recently, a bro not making gains is alarming to said bro, hard not to post.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Right. They are the company i cruised on, and no problems. However when i started this cycle i still feel like im cruising on a 120 per week trt dose. I’ve received a few different shipments of vials while on this cycle so unless they kept sending me garbage, something else is going on here...We’ll see soon enough. Thinking about switching to bioteq, thoughts?

How many different batches do you have?
Are the vials used for your cruise the same batch as those for this cycle?

Bioteq isn't a name i'm familiar with. Sorry.

 

[Vomiit]

No worries, do you have any you recommend other than pharmacom?
Different batch number from the cruise, *suspense intensifies*

 

[MisterSuperGod]

No worries, do you have any you recommend other than pharmacom?
Different batch number from the cruise, *suspense intensifies*

i could only suggest taking a look in the UG forum for sources with recent satisfied customers. The last few pages of each thread should give you a general idea.

Truth be told, i haven't purchased from a Meso based source since the first year that i was here, but that source is long gone now.

 

[Lifting88]

First thing you need to do if you dont gain is eat more kcal

Even when your gear is bunk you need to gain a little when you eat enough for your bulk

 

[AlwaysHungry]

now you need higher calories from when you were lighter and running 500
now y have higher LBM so higher calories and higher dosages are need it

also test after 1st-2nd cycle it isnt good by it self

 

[cochino]

now you need higher calories from when you were lighter and running 500
now y have higher LBM so higher calories and higher dosages are need it

also test after 1st-2nd cycle it isnt good by it self

Thats simply not true for everyone. I happen to tolerate test very well and some of my best, keepable gains are from test only cycles. I'm currently cutting on 300 mg test only right now and doing alright. Diet, sleep and training will dictate your gains more than the drugs. I personally can't make gains if I can't eat, sleep or feel like shit.

 

[Cashton]

Thats simply not true for everyone. I happen to tolerate test very well and some of my best, keepable gains are from test only cycles. I'm currently cutting on 300 mg test only right now and doing alright. Diet, sleep and training will dictate your gains more than the drugs. I personally can't make gains if I can't eat, sleep or feel like shit.

Well it appears he’s trying to bulk, not cut... the guy needs more food, that’s pretty obvious, up the cals by 500 and you should start seeing the scales go up by next week.
Also count you cals & weigh your food until you really know how much it takes you to grow.

 

[cochino]

Well it appears he’s trying to bulk, not cut... the guy needs more food, that’s pretty obvious, up the cals by 500 and you should start seeing the scales go up by next week.
Also count you cals & weigh your food until you really know how much it takes you to grow.

I understand that. I'm simply saying its diet, rest and training that dictates your cycle. The drug is secondary and with test you can cut or bulk whether its your 1st or 10th cycle.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Well it appears he’s trying to bulk, not cut... the guy needs more food, that’s pretty obvious, up the cals by 500 and you should start seeing the scales go up by next week.
Also count you cals & weigh your food until you really know how much it takes you to grow.

He's a 153-156 pounds, eating 3400-3500 calories per day. If this is accurate and he isn't blindly guessing his intake, he should be gaining weight by the hour.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

He's a 153-156 pounds, eating 3400-3500 calories per day. If this is accurate and he isn't blindly guessing his intake, he should be gaining weight by the hour.

lol seriously.
3.5k cals at 150.
Damn, I eat that much on a 200 calorie surplus at 235

 

[MisterSuperGod]

lol seriously.
3.5k cals at 150.
Damn, I eat that much on a 200 calorie surplus at 235

Yep, it isn't making much sense to me.

@strongerlife made a great point. Bunk or not, at those calories he should still be gaining weight. There's no way he's at a standstill if those calories are truly accurate.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Just wait for the bloodwork results. I don’t know what you want us to tell you right now. It’s either bunk test or you got AIDS.

 

[Giveitago]

Did you say how long you’ve been on the 700mg dose and I missed it?