Roamer
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Good to hear my friend. Remember that more doesn't always equal better !!
Keep killing it. That is the couch today !! don't let that son of a bitch get away, hold it down !!
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Good to hear my friend. Remember that more doesn't always equal better !!
Keep killing it. That is the couch today !! don't let that son of a bitch get away, hold it down !!
A swim in the pool is not a bad idea though
I'll go by what I learned as a somewhat professional athletes (in my youth ). I ask you this...?? Why do you think after a hard practice or a physical game, athletes always jump into ice buckets?? It's certainly not to produce growth hormones. Athletes normally, not always, have somewhat elevated growth hormones and it's not due to sauna or hot tub treatments. When the body is injured YOU do not want to add heat...period! Heat causes inflammation etc.... I mean injured..as in breaking down or tearing up muscle fibers...i.e. working out
Athletes are slowly gravitating toward cryogenic therapy as an alternative to ice bath treatment....(not popular due to the cost).
Hahaha.
You in Beastmode now? Or should I wait until week 2 or 3 for you to tell me?
MG, I'm in no way discrediting your ice treatments, ETC. I use them a lot myself.
In reality, it just made me think of that study. As, an IGF-1 spike post workout would be awesome, yeah? You can ice certain areas while in the sauna, but I wonder if that would effect the results. Also, the sauna study could be complete BS, who know?
Without a doubt cold treatments on overworked muscles/joints etc is very effective.
OdieM
Banned
Well I'm no athlete, I just lift iron. Lol Athletes put their bodies through hell. We're in no way even on that level. I have never heard of a body builder taking a ice bath after a workout. Every summer I have always worked out and went and jumped in some body of water somewhere. Actually knowing that when Im done in the gym that I have to take my shirt off and be around a lot of people really allows me to get a good workout. We're our hardest critics. I will be getting in the pool at lest 3 times a week soon. Last summer I swim after every workout and that was when I made some great gains. I always make good gains in the summer
Hahaha.
You in Beastmode now? Or should I wait until week 2 or 3 for you to tell me?
Been waking up everyday over 200 in the am. I was 204 tonight. Staying lean too. It's all good weight.
Loperdk
New Member
http://drmirkin.com/fitness/why-ice-delays-recovery.html
Interesting read by Dr. Mirkin which has caused a pretty heated debate in the Sports Medicine world over the past few years. Dr. Mirkin is the one who coin RICE. He has since outside of acute injury discontinued the use of ice for treatment. Even though this is a website it is sited.
Interesting read by Dr. Mirkin which has caused a pretty heated debate in the Sports Medicine world over the past few years. Dr. Mirkin is the one who coin RICE. He has since outside of acute injury discontinued the use of ice for treatment. Even though this is a website it is sited.
smashfit
New Member
This is a cool article, thanks for posting this! What I got from it though was kind of vague I thought. So, no ice (or if you do, less than 5 mins and only for severe swelling) but then the article basically says to suck it up? Lol so anti-inflam's, no ice, nothing! Just let the body do it's natural thing...huh, interesting. I liked the mention of IGF-1, certainly spikes my interest.
OdieM
Banned
Well I got some terrible news last night about my sisters health. I have been in a fog every since I was told. I almost didn't go to the gym today but I ended up there somehow. Kinda of wish I wouldn't of went and saved it for tomorrow. Not a single DB was lifted and I totally wasn't feeling it. I usually get so mad at the weight before I lift it and today I didn't get mad once.
Chest
BB incline
225x14
255x10
275x7
315x3
Bench press
315x12
335x10
365x7
385x4
Decline bench close grip ( close grip is the only way my short arms will get it off the rack)
225x15
225x14
225x12
225x12
Cable cross overs ( I actually let my hands cross over by a few inches. Each rep I alternate which hand will cross over the other one. Please try it if you haven't yet. Your welcome )
100x 12 slow
110x 10 slow
120x10 slow
140x8 slow
Triceps
Dips (body weight)
20
20
19
14
Diamond push ups SLOWWWWW
25
22
16
9
I walked out of the gym feeling like I totally wasted a good workout. I just wasn't feeling it. I did get told by some weird guy that I had a very nice physique which usually would of got me pissed off but like i said I'm just out of it and let it slide and just didn't respond
Chest
BB incline
225x14
255x10
275x7
315x3
Bench press
315x12
335x10
365x7
385x4
Decline bench close grip ( close grip is the only way my short arms will get it off the rack)
225x15
225x14
225x12
225x12
Cable cross overs ( I actually let my hands cross over by a few inches. Each rep I alternate which hand will cross over the other one. Please try it if you haven't yet. Your welcome )
100x 12 slow
110x 10 slow
120x10 slow
140x8 slow
Triceps
Dips (body weight)
20
20
19
14
Diamond push ups SLOWWWWW
25
22
16
9
I walked out of the gym feeling like I totally wasted a good workout. I just wasn't feeling it. I did get told by some weird guy that I had a very nice physique which usually would of got me pissed off but like i said I'm just out of it and let it slide and just didn't respond
I'm sorry about the bad news brother! Keep your head up!
FuriousWO
New Member
Sorry bud about your sister. Even a shitty workout is better than no workout.
jaymaximus
Pro
Sorry to hear. My prayers are with you.
Sorry to hear about that will be sending prayers.[emoji120]
johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
"Hey there young fella, you're physique looks real nicccceeeee"
Hahaha, sorry.. Thought you could use a laugh!
Hope things get better with your sister.
Ive been dealing with different friends and relatives cancers and their various liver/kidney disease for many years now . PM me if you need to talk ....
Sorry for the news. Prayers are out for your sister, you and your family!
OdieM
Banned
Thank y'all, I wasn't gonna post my personal life problems but fuck it, someone would of called me out on the horrible workout. Nah seriously thank y'all we really are a brotherhood here.
Change of subject Serious Question
I have almost got this puffy nipple shit whooped. My right nip is total 100% fine but my left one stays pointing and puffy. I started taking 10mg of nolva yesterday along with .5 adex EOD. I also have some LETRO. Would y'all recommend I take some letro or no??? I have never delt with this gyno crap and its freaking me out.
Edit: also I'm hearing and reading not to take nolva with tren from some and I'm hearing the opposite from some. Someone please line my ass out.
@Northern Nutrition
Change of subject Serious Question
I have almost got this puffy nipple shit whooped. My right nip is total 100% fine but my left one stays pointing and puffy. I started taking 10mg of nolva yesterday along with .5 adex EOD. I also have some LETRO. Would y'all recommend I take some letro or no??? I have never delt with this gyno crap and its freaking me out.
Edit: also I'm hearing and reading not to take nolva with tren from some and I'm hearing the opposite from some. Someone please line my ass out.
@Northern Nutrition
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johnnyBALLZ
Well-known Member
That no nolva with tren stuff is a bullshit myth. If you're having gyno problems blast it with 40mg nolva ED, not 10mg. After it goes down stay on 10-20mg for the duration of the cycle.
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