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I hear you BP - but I remember looking at pics of Astro"s "lab pics" and thinking this looks like someones factory or machine shop , other pics Ive seen look like a university or a public lab . I just think it can easily be faked . I think alot of these "labs" were faked to satisfy the WKM here.....

That's correct which is why ultimately the proof is in the pudding (the gear itself)! Many of these "new labs" are indeed exactly that, some dude attempting to make a few bucks and obtain free gear for themselves and perhaps a few of his mates. I mean we are not exactly talking "pro's" here.

The PROBLEM IS, THEY don't even know if their "raws" are GTG. Which means unless they provide or were provided with DATED documentation of some confirmatory analytical process, the gear is quite likely to be BUNK.

Wasn't that the lesson learned with both Astro, Superior and several other "new" UGL?
I certainly hope so!

REGS
JIM
 
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I hear you BP - but I remember looking at pics of Astro"s "lab pics" and thinking this looks like someones factory or machine shop , other pics Ive seen look like a university or a public lab . I just think it can easily be faked . I think alot of these "labs" were faked to satisfy the WKM here.....
Thought exactly this too... He walked in to some manufacturing factory and wrote his name on a piece of paper and took pics to make his operation look bigger and better. Looks ridiculous and over the top. Does he really expect us to believe he is producing on that kind of level?
 
Thought exactly this too... He walked in to some manufacturing factory and wrote his name on a piece of paper and took pics to make his operation look bigger and better. Looks ridiculous and over the top. Does he really expect us to believe he is producing on that kind of level?
Can you link to pics of Astros lab? Don't think iv seen it.
 
I dont know Moose , but if I come up with something I'll throw it out there ....

Colt44 did good with the SCOC , it just hasnt been followed by everyone , and guys find ways around it . It also doesnt keep a source from walking way with everyones money once trust has been established , or selling bunk gear for 2 months before bloodwork finally comes in....

As far as pics of the labs , these are becoming a pain in the ass to enforce, no one wants to comply , either from a security standpoint or in general . And this can easily be faked , one way or the other . Still I dont see it as proof of a quality source . The sources that had the high tech labs also hairs & debris in their vials .

And some of the best UGL gear Ive ever had was made at a kitchen table without any sterile equipment present , but there was no PIP and no infections , and no eyelash hairs either....Go figure . ~Ogh
Appreciate the response. I've had similar thoughts about the pictures. I'm thinking out loud here but I question the value of running a source off who shows up with MS and blood work just because the source doesn't throw up a picture of a supposed lab that could be faked anyhow. Having said that, not posting a picture speaks to stubbornness and lack of respect by the source so....
 
There was never any disrespect meant. I cannot give you what you want. I see why you ask for it and it is understandable. Its not my place to judge on other labs whether they have pics and if they are real. I am just being honest with you guys. Sure, I could hop over to the nearest university, walk in their chem department and take pics and none would be the wiser. I mentioned if this gets large enough to make it cost effective to own my own equipment, by all means I will take pics and throw them up, but this isn't my security or job at stake if I were to take pics now. If there is any way we can meet in the middle ground or any other options please let me know. I want to work with everyone on this.
 
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Your cute!!! When you post I picture the same exact thing as I did when reading the ignatius parts in a confederacy of dunces (not an insult, probably the best literary character of all time). Exactly the same, I truly do wish john kennedy toole wouldn't have killed himself so that it could have perhaps been possible that he meet you one day to meet the real life version of a manifestation of his genius imagination!!!
 
Your cute!!! When you post I picture the same exact thing as I did when reading the ignatius parts in a confederacy of dunces (not an insult, probably the best literary character of all time). Exactly the same, I truly do wish john kennedy toole wouldn't have killed himself so that it could have perhaps been possible that he meet you one day to meet the real life version of a manifestation of his genius imagination!!!


Interesting. I always thought it was crap that was written by a dunce and only enjoyed by those who are even greater dunces.

Sticking with your literature theme - and by literature, I mean REAL literature - perhaps you should follow this advice from Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises: “You know it makes one feel rather good deciding not to be a bitch."
 
And yes I do source here , I dont like going anywhere else . One stop shopping for my entertainment & gear so I do want good sources here . Why else are we running off the bad sources ? ~Ogh
I think if this board was strictly a unbiased review board and continue with pushing blood work, lab max and Mass Spec. All you need to know about any source along the UGL internet space and you would still not have to go anywhere. We don't need sources here to find a source here. Follow me. I GUARANTEE YOU if we keep spreading these testing protocols they will come as far as they the other guys tired of this shit. They will come with blood work and labmax tests that are censored at other places. I am confident with no sources you stand a better chance at finding a source here. A PM and an e-mail from the ones posting positive reviews and there you go. NO SOURCES AT MESO. WE LEAD THE WAY THEY WILL FOLLOW....what is holding us back SOURCES!!!!!!!
 
They will come with blood work and labmax tests that are censored at other places. I am confident with no sources you stand a better chance at finding a source here. A PM and an e-mail from the ones posting positive reviews and there you go. NO SOURCES AT MESO. WE LEAD THE WAY THEY WILL FOLLOW....what is holding us back SOURCES!!!!!!!

That's an excellent point bc although there are a few outliers, most forums forbid the posting of LabMax and even LC/MS data ESPECIALLY that which conflicts with or is not in the best interest of advertisers!

Indeed we have a long way to go and will never achieve the degree of testing I believe is necessary for UNPROVEN sources BUT this vetting process such as the SCOC will eventually compel scammers to seek refuge at Eroids, PM, Roidsmall, etc where they have to pay to play.

Understand bc essentially ALL sources are given a free advertisement ride on Meso ALL must first be considered SCAMMERS and nothing more! It's just to damn easy for someone to post up some garbage about their new lab, that touts remote references, nonexistent pic of products or production facilities and a few shills that enter Meso a bit later exalting the quality of "New Labs" products........BULLSHIT ......... CAN ANYONE NAME ONE "NEW LAB" THAT CONTINUES TO SELL AAS AFTER ONLY ONE YEAR HERE (CRAP MOST ARE TOAST IN SIX MONTHS OR LESS)!!!!

Hell no! So make no mistake about it, bc Meso has a considerable number of neophytes that are prime targets for these dirt balls, this vetting process is not only necessary, saving MANY A MATE from being scammed, but has also become as much a part of Meso as ICE CREAM and Grand Ma's apple pie.

SO IT'S HERE TO STAY AND SHOULD BE!

JIM
 
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I want to let everyone know, if you post
Video of labmax you will receive $30 store credit. The credit take place after you order and post video.
 
I want to let everyone know, if you post
Video of labmax you will receive $30 store credit. The credit take place after you order and post video.
I'll give you $30 credit when you post pics of a Lab or your brewing process

Basically a pic of your stove with a pot on it
 
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