Operation Cyber Juice - One of the Largest Steroid Dealers in U.S. History

[bdsupplements]

I listened to this at work yesterday and I will say it was great interview and you do well at laying out the story. I wish you good luck and when I'm ready to go the trt clinic route again I will look you guys up.

Thank you. I very much appreciate your support.

 

[AbstractMind]

This is what I was referring to when I stated: "For the record, these reports were taken from the DA's office, and the narrative created in these articles couldn't have been farther from the truth." Every one of my employees asked to work for me, they were all paid very well, and I am still amicable with all of them today. I paid the chemists $10-$12 per vial, and they typically made 300-500 vials per day that they worked. My chemists had the opportunity to generate significant revenue. Some found it more lucrative than others based on work ethic. Some worked assiduously, while others only worked a few days per week.

Just busting chops lol glad you’re okay. I enjoyed reading your story

 

[BawlsDeep]

I paid the chemists $10-$12 per vial, and they typically made 300-500 vials per day that they worked

Damn... If u ever start back up again...

 

[1Megaman]

Thank you. I very much appreciate your support.

What’s the name of your trt clinic? I just finished listening to the podcast and I can’t remember the name.

 

[Theworm]

Tell us stories from your past life, how much money were we talking about, largest amount you made in a month etc?

 

[bdsupplements]

Just busting chops lol glad you’re okay. I enjoyed reading your story

Ha Ha! Thanks Zachary. Thanks for reading. The book I wrote is supposed to be posted in serialized chapters here, on this forum, sometime soon. I really appreciate your support.

 

[bdsupplements]

What’s the name of your trt clinic? I just finished listening to the podcast and I can’t remember the name.

Thanks for listening. My TRT clinic is Hormonesforme.com.

 

[hudson98]

Thanks for listening. My TRT clinic is Hormonesforme.com.

mission accomplished for the op, thats one new guy. $$$

the government is whack. they locked you up for something, but now are letting you do the same thing legally as "TRT" lol. every TRT clinic is a dealer but I guess as the government gets their taxes of the sale of AAS they are fine

 

[bdsupplements]

Tell us stories from your past life, how much money were we talking about, largest amount you made in a month etc?

Great question. I didn't keep rigid accounting, but the business must have made over 20 million dollars in its lifetime. There was a pretty linear increase-increase relationship between time and revenue generated. When I commenced my online presence, I was hoping, praying to make about $200-$300 extra dollars per week. I had a job working in an Emergency Room, and an extra $200-$300 dollars a week would have made me comfortable. I still snicker at this notion, because, at the time, I really thought that was overzealous, and I thought that expectation was too high. How could I have known that actions I was about to take would lead to more money, power, and prestige than I had ever dreamed possible. I made a few very strategic business decisions, and within 6 months, the business blew up. Within 6 months I was generating $21,000 per week. After a year, $30k per week, then $40k per week; then $50k to $100k and more per week. I remember, after Big D Pharmaceuticals went down, which, in retrospect, should have portended the fall of my empire, when I pulled in over $500k per month for a few months. Big D was massive, and he had a vast array of clients. When that operation was busted in Florida, all his clients seemed to come to me, and I was swamped and overloaded with clientele to the point I had to scale and expand even more than I already had; adding more shippers and chemists. That period was probably when I made the most money. Thanks for the question.

 

[bdsupplements]

mission accomplished for the op, thats one new guy. $$$

the government is whack. they locked you up for something, but now are letting you do the same thing legally as "TRT" lol. every TRT clinic is a dealer but I guess as the government gets their taxes of the sale of AAS they are fine

I broke the law, I knew what I was doing, and I am accountable for those actions. This is a story of redemption. The context is different now. Although I always cared deeply about my clients, I am now focused on safety and maintaining health markers. I have been in a unique postition to have aggregated more empirical data than any endocrinologist or urologist in the country, and although I have more experience than almost anyone in helping people devolop into the picture of themselves that they envision and desire to be, it is also about putting the tools and system in place to monitor and maintain health and safety. Some of the latter is lost in the black market.

 

[Theworm]

Great question. I didn't keep rigid accounting, but the business must have made over 20 million dollars in its lifetime. There was a pretty linear increase-increase relationship between time and revenue generated. When I commenced my online presence, I was hoping, praying to make about $200-$300 extra dollars per week. I had a job working in an Emergency Room, and an extra $200-$300 dollars a week would have made me comfortable. I still snicker at this notion, because, at the time, I really thought that was overzealous, and I thought that expectation was too high. How could I have known that actions I was about to take would lead to more money, power, and prestige than I had ever dreamed possible. I made a few very strategic business decisions, and within 6 months, the business blew up. Within 6 months I was generating $21,000 per week. After a year, $30k per week, then $40k per week; then $50k to $100k and more per week. I remember, after Big D Pharmaceuticals went down, which, in retrospect, should have portended the fall of my empire, when I pulled in over $500k per month for a few months. Big D was massive, and he had a vast array of clients. When that operation was busted in Florida, all his clients seemed to come to me, and I was swamped and overloaded with clientele to the point I had to scale and expand even more than I already had; adding more shippers and chemists. That period was probably when I made the most money. Thanks for the question.

Love stories from the past like this, I remember reading about ?sergio from muscle media 2000 days and it was like reading about al Capone etc

 

[bdsupplements]

Love stories from the past like this, I remember reading about ?sergio from muscle media 2000 days and it was like reading about al Capone etc

Thank you. I have to admit, The rise and fall of the empire was a wild ride. As I stated earlier, the serialized chapters of my story are going to be published here, on this forum, soon. The book came out even better than I anticipated. I really believe the members will thoroughly enjoy it. Thanks again!

 

[1Megaman]

Hormonesforme.com

What’s the monthly cost and what do you get?

 

[malfeasance]

Thanks for listening. My TRT clinic is Hormonesforme.com.

I broke the law, I knew what I was doing, and I am accountable for those actions. This is a story of redemption. The context is different now. Although I always cared deeply about my clients, I am now focused on safety and maintaining health markers. I have been in a unique postition to have aggregated more empirical data than any endocrinologist or urologist in the country, and although I have more experience than almost anyone in helping people devolop into the picture of themselves that they envision and desire to be, it is also about putting the tools and system in place to monitor and maintain health and safety. Some of the latter is lost in the black market.

This is a great outcome.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I broke the law, I knew what I was doing, and I am accountable for those actions. This is a story of redemption. The context is different now. Although I always cared deeply about my clients, I am now focused on safety and maintaining health markers. I have been in a unique postition to have aggregated more empirical data than any endocrinologist or urologist in the country, and although I have more experience than almost anyone in helping people devolop into the picture of themselves that they envision and desire to be, it is also about putting the tools and system in place to monitor and maintain health and safety. Some of the latter is lost in the black market.

Guessing you had some money buried in a suitcase somewhere for when you got out?

I mean talking those numbers I’d go to prison for 6 years if I knew I would have something in my back pocket getting out…. Is it tempting to go back too? Regardless of the spot light on you now.

Looking forward to listening to the podcast and checking out the book.

 

[bdsupplements]

What’s the monthly cost and what do you get?

I don't like to charge monthly fees. Many other clinics use this to add in other fees or mask expensive treatments. I built this model to be the most affordable in the industry, and we achieve that. I simply have one transparent charge for the treatment period of about 2.5 months, which is about $215 for this period, or about $86 per month. This is for testosterone monotherapy. There are some extra costs for adjunct and ancillary items such as syringes, anastrozole (if necessary), gonadorelin (if necessary), and shipping. These costs are moderate, and do not amount to much more. We also have an option to make a down payment, and then pay $19.99 per week.

 

[bdsupplements]

This is a great outcome.

Thanks Malfeasance. Your support has truly helped motivate me to push a new narrative of thought leadership. My team and I will begin to disseminate education that revolves around empircal data, the telelology of moderate AAS use, and real world heuristics that dramatically improve quality of life. I have just seen so much, and I see many people not quite getting the full understanding of how to properly utilize these hormones to reach their personal goals. The people on this forum, with the support I have been given, help give me the confidence to put an organized strategic system in place to truly help understand how to put all the pieces together. Thanks again.

 

[Mr.PQR]

Thanks Malfeasance. Your support has truly helped motivate me to push a new narrative of thought leadership. My team and I will begin to disseminate education that revolves around empircal data, the telelology of moderate AAS use, and real world heuristics that dramatically improve quality of life. I have just seen so much, and I see many people not quite getting the full understanding of how to properly utilize these hormones to reach their personal goals. The people on this forum, with the support I have been given, help give me the confidence to put an organized strategic system in place to truly help understand how to put all the pieces together. Thanks again.

Great story brother...wish u all the best in the future and your new business!!

Mr.p

 

[bdsupplements]

Guessing you had some money buried in a suitcase somewhere for when you got out?

I mean talking those numbers I’d go to prison for 6 years if I knew I would have something in my back pocket getting out…. Is it tempting to go back too? Regardless of the spot light on you now.

Looking forward to listening to the podcast and checking out the book.

Great question. I didn't have as much money put away as many would think. People have made it very clear that I was not a smart criminal. I had most of my money in banks and real estate in my own name - all seized. I came out of prison with a little nest egg, and a few partners that are brilliant busienss minds that are assisting to tilt up a large, professional, and credible organization.

Your query about the temptation to return to the black market is profound. Certainly, the criminal justice system is replete with recidivism,and it makes sense that most people find themselves going back to what they know to put food in their family's mouth and a roof over their head. I am in a more unique position than most inmates to understand what drives success, and how to put a business together that creates long term value. Therefore, I spent my entire time in prison preparing for the future, reading voraciously, and writing the business plan that I am now executing with the help of a talented team. The prison system does not incentivize education, or career development, so 99% of the people do not know what else to do except go back to what they know. To answer the question: at this time, I do not have any temptation to go back to the black market and face the repercussions of those actions. That is largely due to the fact that the execution to my business plan is going better than expected, and the future looks bright for us to help and create value for a significant portion of our intended audience. However, if everything fell apart..... I imagine the temptation would increase exponentially.

Great question, and thanks for your support Pineapples4Puss.

 

[bdsupplements]

Great story brother...wish u all the best in the future and your new business!!

Mr.p

Thank you very much Mr.PQR!