Operation Cyber Juice - One of the Largest Steroid Dealers in U.S. History

[Rido]

I don't like to charge monthly fees. Many other clinics use this to add in other fees or mask expensive treatments. I built this model to be the most affordable in the industry, and we achieve that. I simply have one transparent charge for the treatment period of about 2.5 months, which is about $215 for this period, or about $86 per month. This is for testosterone monotherapy. There are some extra costs for adjunct and ancillary items such as syringes, anastrozole (if necessary), gonadorelin (if necessary), and shipping. These costs are moderate, and do not amount to much more. We also have an option to make a down payment, and then pay $19.99 per week.

Here is an interesting question. Some of us want to blast and cruise(on TRT), but some people need medical support, and testosterone when we are not on a blast.

Does your clinic see patients that do extracurricular activities(not that you can condone it) but provide health support for the patient's safety?

 

[hudson98]

lets be real brother, you and every TRT clinic are in business for the same reason as any other business

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[malfeasance]

lets be real brother, you and every TRT clinic are in business for the same reason as any other business

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Isn't that true for any job or business?

If you don't serve others, you don't turn a profit.

 

[Rido]

Isn't that true for any job or business?

If you don't serve others, you don't turn a profit.

agreed.... healthcare is a business...

 

[hudson98]

Isn't that true for any job or business?

If you don't serve others, you don't turn a profit.

correct. I was commenting on him saying "I really want to help people be the best version of them they can be."

We can be spared that. he is here to make $$ and get clients. Nothing wrong with that but that was the point of his original post lol.

 

[bdsupplements]

Here is an interesting question. Some of us want to blast and cruise(on TRT), but some people need medical support, and testosterone when we are not on a blast.

Does your clinic see patients that do extracurricular activities(not that you can condone it) but provide health support for the patient's safety?

Very good question. Yes we do. I specialize in helping people maintain health markers who come from the black market. I am here to help everyone.

 

[Rido]

Very good question. Yes we do. I specialize in helping people maintain health markers who come from the black market. I am here to help everyone.

This opens up alot of business and helps people with their health safety without turning them away.

Obviously privacy is protected by HIPAA to ensure that patients are transparent so they can receive adequate care. The patients won't need to worry about being judged or abandoned.

Hopefully some potential patients read your response as well.

 

[bdsupplements]

correct. I was commenting on him saying "I really want to help people be the best version of them they can be."

We can be spared that. he is here to make $$ and get clients. Nothing wrong with that but that was the point of his original post lol.

I speak on this in the Koncrete video with which this thread was opened. You are propagating the concept that I, or all business owners, are motivated purely by money, or greed. Of course, everyone needs money in modern society to survive, so that has to be factored in to business. However, It is facile to think that a biochemical reaction as complicated as motivation and ambition can be wrapped up in such a simple explanation as greed. That is just a facile statement that many people use to explain a very complicated dopaminergic reaction. Greed is not an accurate depiction of what drives a business owner on, what makes him wake up excited every morning to grow this entity that he created, to help the clients who respect and admire the business owner for said help. Dopamine, which is the neurotransmitter that conveys motivational salience, is the neurotransmitter that responsible for drive, ambition, and passion. Humans evolved to elicit a DOSE (Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin, Endorphins) response every time we do something to ensure our own survival, or the survival of our species (Sex, eating; these are obvious major DOSE eliciting actions) as a reward pathway. We are supposed to be addicted to these neirotransmitters that reward us for performing an action that ensures our survival. We evolved to be social creatures, because we survive better when we help eachother. Therefore, helping people is one of the strongest DOSE eliciting actions. Creating value for others causes people to respect, admire, and appreciate you, which causes a massive DOSE response. When we create value for as many people as possible, in the most meaningful way; when we have created something bigger than ourselves, that people depend on,that make a massive audience show us respect, admiration, and appreciation - that elicits dopamine which drives motivation and impetus to continue helping people and providing. To quit helping is to fail all those loyal people who depend on you; to quit helping is to fail this entity you created that is now bigger than you, and your business has become your baby that you need to nurture. That is addicting. That is ambition. That is passion. That is not greed. That is not about money. That is about the innate desire to help others. That is what drives most business owners on... It isn't greed.

 

[GuerillaPete]

I speak on this in the Koncrete video with which this thread was opened. You are propagating the concept that I, or all business owners, are motivated purely by money, or greed. Of course, everyone needs money in modern society to survive, so that has to be factored in to business. However, It is facile to think that a biochemical reaction as complicated as motivation and ambition can be wrapped up in such a simple explanation as greed. That is just a facile statement that many people use to explain a very complicated dopaminergic reaction. Greed is not an accurate depiction of what drives a business owner on, what makes him wake up excited every morning to grow this entity that he created, to help the clients who respect and admire the business owner for said help. Dopamine, which is the neurotransmitter that conveys motivational salience, is the neurotransmitter that responsible for drive, ambition, and passion. Humans evolved to elicit a DOSE (Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin, Endorphins) response every time we do something to ensure our own survival, or the survival of our species (Sex, eating; these are obvious major DOSE eliciting actions) as a reward pathway. We are supposed to be addicted to these neirotransmitters that reward us for performing an action that ensures our survival. We evolved to be social creatures, because we survive better when we help eachother. Therefore, helping people is one of the strongest DOSE eliciting actions. Creating value for others causes people to respect, admire, and appreciate you, which causes a massive DOSE response. When we create value for as many people as possible, in the most meaningful way; when we have created something bigger than ourselves, that people depend on,that make a massive audience show us respect, admiration, and appreciation - that elicits dopamine which drives motivation and impetus to continue helping people and providing. To quit helping is to fail all those loyal people who depend on you; to quit helping is to fail this entity you created that is now bigger than you, and your business has become your baby that you need to nurture. That is addicting. That is ambition. That is passion. That is not greed. That is not about money. That is about the innate desire to help others. That is what drives most business owners on... It isn't greed.

You should become a politician you have a good way of deflecting dirt headed your way .

 

[Megadick3000]

I speak on this in the Koncrete video with which this thread was opened. You are propagating the concept that I, or all business owners, are motivated purely by money, or greed. Of course, everyone needs money in modern society to survive, so that has to be factored in to business. However, It is facile to think that a biochemical reaction as complicated as motivation and ambition can be wrapped up in such a simple explanation as greed. That is just a facile statement that many people use to explain a very complicated dopaminergic reaction. Greed is not an accurate depiction of what drives a business owner on, what makes him wake up excited every morning to grow this entity that he created, to help the clients who respect and admire the business owner for said help. Dopamine, which is the neurotransmitter that conveys motivational salience, is the neurotransmitter that responsible for drive, ambition, and passion. Humans evolved to elicit a DOSE (Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin, Endorphins) response every time we do something to ensure our own survival, or the survival of our species (Sex, eating; these are obvious major DOSE eliciting actions) as a reward pathway. We are supposed to be addicted to these neirotransmitters that reward us for performing an action that ensures our survival. We evolved to be social creatures, because we survive better when we help eachother. Therefore, helping people is one of the strongest DOSE eliciting actions. Creating value for others causes people to respect, admire, and appreciate you, which causes a massive DOSE response. When we create value for as many people as possible, in the most meaningful way; when we have created something bigger than ourselves, that people depend on,that make a massive audience show us respect, admiration, and appreciation - that elicits dopamine which drives motivation and impetus to continue helping people and providing. To quit helping is to fail all those loyal people who depend on you; to quit helping is to fail this entity you created that is now bigger than you, and your business has become your baby that you need to nurture. That is addicting. That is ambition. That is passion. That is not greed. That is not about money. That is about the innate desire to help others. That is what drives most business owners on... It isn't greed.

I am glad nature knew cocaine was essential in ensuring my survival. Id like to give a shoit out to my best buddy, Dopamine. Youve always been there for me bro, now lets go tag team some hookers.

 

[hudson98]

I speak on this in the Koncrete video with which this thread was opened. You are propagating the concept that I, or all business owners, are motivated purely by money, or greed. Of course, everyone needs money in modern society to survive, so that has to be factored in to business. However, It is facile to think that a biochemical reaction as complicated as motivation and ambition can be wrapped up in such a simple explanation as greed. That is just a facile statement that many people use to explain a very complicated dopaminergic reaction. Greed is not an accurate depiction of what drives a business owner on, what makes him wake up excited every morning to grow this entity that he created, to help the clients who respect and admire the business owner for said help. Dopamine, which is the neurotransmitter that conveys motivational salience, is the neurotransmitter that responsible for drive, ambition, and passion. Humans evolved to elicit a DOSE (Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin, Endorphins) response every time we do something to ensure our own survival, or the survival of our species (Sex, eating; these are obvious major DOSE eliciting actions) as a reward pathway. We are supposed to be addicted to these neirotransmitters that reward us for performing an action that ensures our survival. We evolved to be social creatures, because we survive better when we help eachother. Therefore, helping people is one of the strongest DOSE eliciting actions. Creating value for others causes people to respect, admire, and appreciate you, which causes a massive DOSE response. When we create value for as many people as possible, in the most meaningful way; when we have created something bigger than ourselves, that people depend on,that make a massive audience show us respect, admiration, and appreciation - that elicits dopamine which drives motivation and impetus to continue helping people and providing. To quit helping is to fail all those loyal people who depend on you; to quit helping is to fail this entity you created that is now bigger than you, and your business has become your baby that you need to nurture. That is addicting. That is ambition. That is passion. That is not greed. That is not about money. That is about the innate desire to help others. That is what drives most business owners on... It isn't greed.

I have noting agains you personally just pointing it out. Are you in the sponsors section? If you had originated in there, maybe you are, it would be one thing.

And to summarize what you wrote, people work for

1. Money

To survive. With that said, if you have a record your alternatives are likely not as "fun" and "enjoyable" so your Las motivated to start a business in an area that interests you.

To answer your question for yourself, did you originally become a black market AAS dealer to "help people" or to make profit? We know the answer.

I would just post in the sponsors section, but this thread appears to have worked. No idea if your company is any different than any other "TRT" or more or less reputable, but you know how to utilize forums to get clients (not help people) so props for that. Id say the thread has been a success and a masterful marketing exercise (including your personal story to humanize a for profit business to acquire customers).

 

[Theworm]

I see what bd is saying, I own a biz to make money but if I won the powerball I would still continuing working (less hours of course) because I like what I do and gives me purpose and happiness (along with the money)…

 

[bdsupplements]

I see what bd is saying, I own a biz to make money but if I won the powerball I would still continuing working (less hours of course) because I like what I do and gives me purpose and happiness (along with the money)…

This is a great example. Thank you Theworm. Many business owners that are passionate feel this way.

 

[Care1]

Business for profit yes but profit at any cost? Someone could just deal recs and make more if that's all they wanted. I have seen/been privy to behind the board(not speaking of this one) dealings of recs and so some guys who were dealing gear were certainly dealing recs. However, there are some that would refuse to deal recs not just bc of the risks being greater but also bc they don't want to screw up other peoples' lives like that. Bc they at least care that much. For this guy to read about all these things shows he cared or just had that mind that craves to know how everything works. Maybe both. I spoke to guys that could convince themselves of anything and only cared about saying and knowing what lined their pockets. Learning about the chemical reactions in the synapse and relating those to real life shows this guy cares about more than just that unless he uses it to manipulate which most all marketing is but I relate to what he's saying and why and not just projecting or transferring to make my ego meet it's goal of Supremeness which actually is only an overcompensated illusion or delusion. So is he helping himself or his business? I'm sure, but is he not also learning things and not holding them secret but exposing them to people to help anyone who is willing to go outside of their ego and look to see if it's true or applies or if they can use this information? Yes. I respect that bc he offers up the correct information for ppl to do with what they wish. I have zero problem with him and I happen to have studied much of the same but the studying and mentally knowing of all things was not what liberated my life into a different state of being. That came at the end of mentally knowing everything....from a state of unknowing and just being and letting be and a state of always seeing/always learning. Not just for my own worldly success but for my inner success which means experiencing joy, peace and the fullness yet lightness of love and freedom, which are inseparable, within.

 

[PettyRascal]

On your website you offer TRT & Nandrolone. How long do you believe someone can safely stay on that combo?

 

[malfeasance]

Ha Ha! Thanks Zachary. Thanks for reading. The book I wrote is supposed to be posted in serialized chapters here, on this forum, sometime soon. I really appreciate your support.

How soon is soon?

 

[bdsupplements]

How soon is soon?

Very soon. From my talks with Millard, the Prologue of the story is supposed to be released Thursday, 12/15/22. Thanks for asking Malfeasance.

 

[bdsupplements]

On your website you offer TRT & Nandrolone. How long do you believe someone can safely stay on that combo?

From contemporary studies based on theraputic doses, and from decades of experience in which I have aggregated empirical data of thousands on nandrolone for 10 years or more with no adverse effects; it is evident that nandrolone can be run with testosterone indefinately. Personally, I have been on nandrolone for the larger part of 20 years.

 

[BawlsDeep]

Personally, I have been on nandrolone for the larger part of 20 years

Doesnt wreck ur dong? What dosage?

 

[PettyRascal]

Doesnt wreck ur dong? What dosage?

His clinic seems to run one to one up to 200mg/week