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He didn't earn any from testing. Seems like he was doing business in the mainland where no one cares.
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I feel bad for Wu... He got nothing out of it and the money collected for the tests went to the University
No conclusions should be made until the case is finalized.
They've already plead guilty. Wu and Angus are still awaiting sentencing, the rest are in prison.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article37459557.html
Prison for WHAT?
Performing PED testing, that is NOT what someone goes to prison for!
What am I missing here?
They were caught up in the conspiracy, They were instrumental in making money illegally. Their testing gave legitimacy to the labs and gear.
You know(i would bet) that one must have a license to test scheduled drugs as they were doing. They had to have known that much. Even if they hadn't the old saying "Ignorance is no excuse" and also perhaps "No good deed goes unpunished" and a stretch would be "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
I just read the link cbs provided. Wu needed testosterone for some reason that would help in moving the product(nasal spray) he was working on closer to production.
The guy held 8 patents on other things. Patents are sought in order to be sure the creator of the product or process, etc is given credit for whatever it is. They get credit in the form of a check so whatever it is that is patented can be used by the person/persons.
Sorry big fella but I'm not buying it bc this type of situation has occurred previously and the Feds simply issued a warning cease the testing or we will revoke your license.
No way was the testing AAS the ONLY reason folk went to prison, NO WAY.
I wonder how much product was connected, whether directly or indirectly,to this "lab" as a manufacturing facility!
Oh and I overlooked the FACT many of the assays performed thru "Angus" we're indeed BOGUS bc a MS alone can NOT be used for QUANTIFICATION purposes, such as obtaining the concentration of an AAS in mg/ml.
This is quite relevant bc performing AAS quantification assays, especially when published, is what the FEDS don't want DEA registered labs doing
bc such a process validates an ILLEGAL products quality!
This is quite relevant bc performing AAS quantification assays, especially when published, is what the FEDS don't want DEA registered labs doing
bc such a process validates an ILLEGAL products quality!
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Read the links.
Shunyong “Yonnie” Wu, the former Director of the Mass Spectrometry Center at Auburn University, didn't have a DEA license in the first place that could be revoked.
From court documents "criminal complaint" by James K. Sicks, Postal Inspector, USPS:
"A review of records by DEA personnel finds neither Yonnie WU nor the Mass Spectrometry Center of Auburn University possess a Drug Enforcement Administration registration number. This registration is required to administer, dispense, order, store or prescribe controlled substances."
The feds accepted a plea of possession only -- possession of a Schedule III controlled substance (anabolic steroids) outside the usual course of professional medical practice and not for a legitimate medical purpose.
He likely won't go to prison.
Who said NEVER?
And that's my point, but then again the penalty will largely depend upon the AMOUNT he possessed!
This also emphasizes the risk some labs take testing UGL products, and it's a risk FEW APPRECIATE, IMO!
Those sentenced to prison were charged with the SALE and DISTRIBUTION of AAS while Wu apparently pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge for the POSSESSION of AAS!
It seems odd that the MS lab Wu was working at or for did NOT have a DEA license bc I KNOW "Auburn Univ" has been issued a DEA certificate. Apparently they did not include, or list, this particular MS lab on those forms required by the DEA to conduct such studies.
Chances are this MS lab was simply "omitted" as an oversight on AUs behalf and its also quite possible Wu did not realize a DEA registration is "site or individually specific".
Chances are this MS lab was simply "omitted" as an oversight on AUs behalf and its also quite possible Wu did not realize a DEA registration is "site or individually specific".
You are right. The DEA approved an application for the Auburn chemistry department but was it was apparently restricted to ketamine (and specific prof):
"A registration number exists for the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry under Dr. Christopher Easley, however, according to the protocol submitted with the approved application, this department should only be obtaining ketamine."
That's not an unusual arrangement in many universities some "research labs" are allowed to USE (rather than test for) specific controlled substances as applied to a particular field of study.
Should a "research lab" then require the analysis of some unknown sample, the sample is then forwarded to an internal (or external) lab that has DEA approval.
Should a "research lab" then require the analysis of some unknown sample, the sample is then forwarded to an internal (or external) lab that has DEA approval.
Even though Wu was only charged with simple possession, the publicity it gave the DEA (and the careers of the officers involved) was priceless. They knew Wu wasn't involved with the AAS sales and received no financial compensation for testing, and it didn't matter. Destroying his career and damaging the reputation of a university for a misdemeanor wasn't even a consideration.
Like everything the government does, the symbolism is always more important than the substance.
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This is exactly right and why I have trouble feeling sorry for Wu. I deal with various lab directors around the country and I am very good friends with two of them. Even if I told these guys the results of the sample they were testing would only be seen by myself they wouldn't do it if I told them going in I believed the sample to be AAS at a certain concentration.
Now I could send either of them an unlabeled vial and tell them I don't know what is in it and they would test if for me and report the results back to me.
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