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[Harker3935]

First of all it takes 6 weeks to saturate, you do not test after only a couple. Second of all, Primo does compete for androgen receptor. Third, How did you get 525 Pfizer script. If you are not a Troll, remove Primo and let us know your results in 6 weeks.

He said he was on the exact same dose of pfizer test. Yes he should wait a few more weeks before testing to see if the opti test is the issue. However, he is correct in his statement that in theory there shouldnt be a drop off after two weeks if both testosterones are correctly dosed. There are just too many variables here to make any correlations.

And I'm not knockimg opti. I am interested in trying it someday and he seems to run a good pbusiness.

 

[Sly Devil]

525 test
250 primo

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Is there a reason you just dropped this without stating everything else that came to light afterwards? What’s up with the “subscriber” role placed on you?

Personally it looks like you are trying to sabotage here. You come in and drop poor labs and just state it’s from Opti’s oils and leave it at that. Then it gets revealed that you just received the oils 8 days earlier. Lab work takes a few days to get back so you have actually only been running Opti for a few days.

I hope no one is putting any merit in this. Bloodwork shouldn’t hold much merit anyway since most respond differently and there are too many variables, but no one should be posting labs after a week or less of running a lab’s testosterone, whether you are peeked or not.

I’m a few weeks out from pulling labs myself and will share those.

 

[Zmn71]

but no one should be posting labs after a week or less of running a lab’s testosterone, whether you are peeked or not.

I’ll break this down one more time for everyone in the thread


If you go to your pharmacy and they give you Pfizer one month, then the next month they give you westward/watson, your levels will stay the exact same. You do not restart from zero when you change manufacturers. There is no need for me to wait 4-6 weeks to let it saturate. I’ve done months of 75mg a day on Pfizer, and 10 days on 75mg Opti. The levels should be damn near identical.




Also I posted the dates of when the labs were pulled, and when I received them back. It was less than 24 hours with quest.

 

[Zmn71]

He said he was on the exact same dose of pfizer test. Yes he should wait a few more weeks before testing to see if the opti test is the issue. However, he is correct in his statement that in theory there shouldnt be a drop off after two weeks if both testosterones are correctly dosed. There are just too many variables here to make any correlations.

And I'm not knockimg opti. I am interested in trying it someday and he seems to run a good pbusiness.

The only variables were the testosterone and primo at play. Those were the only two things switched. Injection frequency and dosage remained the same.

 

[Meatgazer]

Is there a reason you just dropped this without stating everything else that came to light afterwards? What’s up with the “subscriber” role placed on you?

Personally it looks like you are trying to sabotage here. You come in and drop poor labs and just state it’s from Opti’s oils and leave it at that. Then it gets revealed that you just received the oils 8 days earlier. Lab work takes a few days to get back so you have actually only been running Opti for a few days.

I hope no one is putting any merit in this. Bloodwork shouldn’t hold much merit anyway since most respond differently and there are too many variables, but no one should be posting labs after a week or less of running a lab’s testosterone, whether you are peeked or not.

I’m a few weeks out from pulling labs myself and will share those.

I agree. Everyone’s bloodwork and response is different and individual and lower blood levels don’t necessarily mean the gear is under dosed.
My TRT clinic orders labs every 3 months but I don’t post for credit because that seems a little scamish to me.

 

[Sagnastymuscle]

It was about 80 out today and I left my bac water in my car on accident I went on a trip to see family and it slipped my mind I feel like it probably went bad anyone have any clue ?

 

[AlexDavis43]

It was about 80 out today and I left my bac water in my car on accident I went on a trip to see family and it slipped my mind I feel like it probably went bad anyone have any clue ?

Probably fine.

 

[Sagnastymuscle]

Probably fine.

whole crimp ring is lose as fuck now I assume whatever Benz alch in it evaporated and expanded

 

[AlexDavis43]

whole crimp ring is lose as fuck now I assume whatever Benz alch in it evaporated and expanded

You can get Hospira cheap af from medex rn so whatevs.

 

[Sagnastymuscle]

About to finish my last set of black tops, loving them so far i plan on updating with my most recent bloods.

I’m currently on 8iu a day.

Weight is climbing muscles look really full not holding a crazy amount of water, compared to the orange 24ius I was holding alot more water (using the same number of units a day).
I will be running greys(8iu)
next and starting a log with optis injectables aswell for anyone who is interested I will be trying to do weekly/ biweekly progress updates.

 

[malfeasance]

About to finish my last set of black tops, loving them so far i plan on updating with my most recent bloods.

I’m currently on 8iu a day.

Weight is climbing muscles look really full not holding a crazy amount of water, compared to the orange 24ius I was holding alot more water (using the same number of units a day).
I will be running greys(8iu)
next and starting a log with optis injectables aswell for anyone who is interested I will be trying to do weekly/ biweekly progress updates.

Some of us would like to hear your comparison of your subjective experience with the grey tops compared to the other two, as well.

 

[Sagnastymuscle]

Some of us would like to hear your comparison of your subjective experience with the grey tops compared to the other two, as well.

Noted I will try to describe the experience in depth as far as side effects ect.

 

[Docsunshine23]

Noted I will try to describe the experience in depth as far as side effects ect.

Some of us would like to hear your comparison of your subjective experience with the grey tops compared to the other two, as well.

Yes looking for to this in the coming weeks

 

[cobra500]

Opti will you be restocking the blue tops and if so when? Thanks

 

[buzzingonaas]

Anyone ran the pharmaqo mast prop from opti? Cracked the vial open and it’s completely clear, not even a tinge of yellow which I’ve just personally never seen before.

 

[buzzingonaas]

About to finish my last set of black tops, loving them so far i plan on updating with my most recent bloods.

I’m currently on 8iu a day.

Weight is climbing muscles look really full not holding a crazy amount of water, compared to the orange 24ius I was holding alot more water (using the same number of units a day).
I will be running greys(8iu)
next and starting a log with optis injectables aswell for anyone who is interested I will be trying to do weekly/ biweekly progress updates.

You’re going to love the greys. I switched from the black tops to the grey tops a year ago and will never go back

 

[Black Beard]

Anyone ran the pharmaqo mast prop from opti? Cracked the vial open and it’s completely clear, not even a tinge of yellow which I’ve just personally never seen before.

It should be completely clear if the carrier oil is MCT (medium chain triglycerides usually sourced from coconut or palm). MCT is really thin and pushes through needle easily but some guys get a knot at the injection site.

Usually, color comes from the carrier oil. GSO is more green, cottonseed is more yellow, etc.

Some of us would like to hear your comparison of your subjective experience with the grey tops compared to the other two, as well.

For me, the blacks held less water than any GH i've ever used, just got reaction at injection site once in a while. (Mostly pain and knotting)


Greys are very clean. The "cleanest" GH i've used besides another unbranded GH. (in terms of heart rate and weird sides like that) IFBB pro Stu Sutherland runs Opti greys exclusively at 5 iu x 2 per day. That's a damn good endorsement in my book.


I usually recommend Opti Greys, QSC or Meditropes for people looking for a reliable generic HGH.

 

[Evom1]

Testing looks really similar between Grey tops and black tops. Anyone else who has run both have a comparison for what they noticed?

 

[cobra500]

You’re going to love the greys. I switched from the black tops to the grey tops a year ago and will never go back

What was the biggest difference you noticed between blacks and greys, that goes for anyone?

 

[buzzingonaas]

It should be completely clear if the carrier oil is MCT (medium chain triglycerides usually sourced from coconut or palm). MCT is really thin and pushes through needle easily but some guys get a knot at the injection site.

Usually, color comes from the carrier oil. GSO is more green, cottonseed is more yellow, etc.

Cool man appreciate that. I usually go for GSO but have seen MCT have a slight yellow tint too from other labs (other compounds too) so was thrown off. Was also thrown off by how easily it pushes through so matches your description