ve79
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It fucking stings like no other . I stopped after 9 weeks
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RockyP
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did you try mixing it with something mild like test cyp 200? That's what I've done and it's been ok. Still has some kick but it's tolerable. Never went with P200 alone in the barrel.
Sagnastymuscle
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I’ve used quite a handful of the primo 200 vials never had any issue with gso, or mct never heated it either.
I did do daily injections
Diluted mine down to 140ish....couldn't handle the PIP and goose egg.
Definitely still has PIP. But it’s tolerable. No bumps, goose eggs, anything, just mild discomfort at inj site
bigdaddyandfriends
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my opinion is the PIP from primo (and its non-C1 methylated parent DHB) is from poor solubility and formation of invisible microcrystals that are drawn up then injected. They can be a nidus for bigger crystals to coalesce, ie crash. Few min on a mug warmer has fixed this for me every time. At room temp those microcrystals basically form a suspension and they irritate/inflame then muscle (or fat if given SiubQ). Diluting helps too, but I’d still warm them up. Once inside the muscle the microcrystals won’t recur at 98-99 degrees, but they will at room temp during storage.
AllGoodThings
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Mug warmer is a great investment. Got it out of necessity for using TNE with no super solvents, but started warming everything up just to speed up the process as I use smaller gauge needles than most for drawing and injecting. Never struggled with pip on anything bad enough for it to be an issue for me personally, but that's definitely going to be another benefit of using a mug warmer for many.
What’s your go to mug, Warner?
Ateam2023
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mr coffee
AllGoodThings
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I just looked for one on Amazon that had a few temp settings. I use 131° on the one I got, which is its lowest setting.
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Jtlittle88
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Gold’s are out
SwolieGuacamole
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Everything is out lol
Jtlittle88
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Not on website? Only thing out is gold
ve79
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Never experienced using one. Do you just heat up your oil in the syrnge when you injection or the vial?
SwolieGuacamole
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In general. Not gh
AllGoodThings
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Just set your vial(s) on the mug warmer until the oil is warmed up, or, in the case of things like TNE that crash, until everything is back in solution again. Then draw everything into your syringe and inject.
bigdaddyandfriends
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That's exactly what I do... I use B-D 31g 5/16" 0.5cc insulin pins for everything, they're the sharpest and best. TNE w/o solvents, DHB, and Primo go on the warmer every time for a couple min. Used to do mostly subQ injections but finally got lean enough where I switched all oils to IM. I alternate biceps, triceps, pecs, delts, hip flexors, and quads. Still have a bit of fat on my ass and love handles so do water-based injections there subQ (L-carnitine, GH, Reta, IGF1-LR3, Selank/Semax, BPC157/TB500, Cu-GHK, etc). High volume water based IM injections like L-carnitine carry higher risk of infection, so I try to avoid them. Risk of infection with subQ is essentially zero.
On another note, I added a little DHB (15mg/day) and EQ (30mg/day) at beginning of Sept when I d/c'd primo (30mg/day), and my strengh has already significantly increased after being at a plateau for a while... DHB might be the best compound ever for strength. Zero PIP with daily injections and no side effects yet. DHB is from DutchPharma USA if any one is interested, great domestic source on ASF.
The EQ is from OEP Labs here. I know it takes weeks to build up, but I haven't had to dose aromasin since starting it, so unlike primo EQ might actually have an fairly strong AI effect in me. As the EQ builds up I'll slowly increase my trestolone dose. I keep test low as I don't want excessive DHT for hair/prostate.
For older guys like me concerned about hair and prostate health, EQ + trestolone with very low dose test might be the perfect combo.
Sagnastymuscle
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I’m Sad opti doesn’t have it yet
Sagnastymuscle
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Finally going back on a blast throwing in som more of optis Hgh and alittle bit of his mast and primo
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