Oral + Proviron but no base?

[musclemedicine]

Disclaimer: this isn't for me. I love test and oddly I love pinning. I would personally never run oral only.

I got a close friend who really wants to try something to help him start a cut/recomp. Last year I helped him get setup with a 12-14 week test cyp cycle at 600mg/week (first cycle). He had great results and loved it, but because of his wife, he had to store all his gear at my place. I gave him a key so he could come do his injections throughout the week. Unfortunately, that won't work logistically anymore.

He asked me about doing oral only. And I explained to him exact thing your thinking right now about how dumb oral only is. But he seems persistent on the idea and doesn't really care about getting low T symptoms.

So here is my question: if my buddy ran anavar or tbol with proviron for 4-5weeks woud that help at all? hes not looking to get huge, he just wants a little boost.

 

[LvnDead]

May help while he is “on”, but who knows how much if any he will keep off of it. Most will be glycogen and water. Orals are a good add on or boost not good for maintaining gains in my opinion.

 

[EazyE]

May help while he is “on”, but who knows how much if any he will keep off of it. Most will be glycogen and water. Orals are a good add on or boost not good for maintaining gains in my opinion.

Test is best and Injections are part of the equation. You need test otherwise you’re just wasting your time and money. A cycle like that with orals only will increase the risk of adverse effects. You need Test to balance things and help mitigate those risks.

 

[LvnDead]

Test is best and Injections are part of the equation. You need test otherwise you’re just wasting your time and money. A cycle like that with orals only will increase the risk of adverse effects. You need Test to balance things and help mitigate those risks.

Exactly. Shutting down your natural test for a month the look more full? Not worth it. Just as hard if not harder to bounce back from.

 

[musclemedicine]

Thanks for the replies y'all. I'll pass it along.

 

[Turbo charged]

I few of my friends run a oral with not test and like it. Is it optimal no but people do it. I have run anadrol only at 25 mg when I was young and liked it. But I think I would of liked it more with test. Running. Anavar alone is fine at 30 mgs but I would not go any higher. Tons of older business guys do it for the summer.

 

[EazyE]

I few of my friends run a oral with not test and like it. Is it optimal no but people do it. I have run anadrol only at 25 mg when I was young and liked it. But I think I would of liked it more with test. Running. Anavar alone is fine at 30 mgs but I would not go any higher. Tons of older business guys do it for the summer.

Agreed that is not optimal cycling protocol. I also know guys who ran dbol or winny by themselves many years ago. Or the infamous dbol/Deca stack.
Without test, keep an eye on libido.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

The problem is your friends wife. He shouldn’t have to go all the way to your house to do a little test.

 

[musclemedicine]

The problem is your friends wife. He shouldn’t have to go all the way to your house to do a little test.

Yeah I keep telling him to find a new one lol.

 

[Wunderpus]

Disclaimer: this isn't for me. I love test and oddly I love pinning. I would personally never run oral only.

I got a close friend who really wants to try something to help him start a cut/recomp. Last year I helped him get setup with a 12-14 week test cyp cycle at 600mg/week (first cycle). He had great results and loved it, but because of his wife, he had to store all his gear at my place. I gave him a key so he could come do his injections throughout the week. Unfortunately, that won't work logistically anymore.

He asked me about doing oral only. And I explained to him exact thing your thinking right now about how dumb oral only is. But he seems persistent on the idea and doesn't really care about getting low T symptoms.

So here is my question: if my buddy ran anavar or tbol with proviron for 4-5weeks woud that help at all? hes not looking to get huge, he just wants a little boost.

Where there's a will, there's a way... Meaning, he can get injectable steroids and keep them in a number of places (this his wife will never find) if he so desires... Car, work, gym locker, safe deposit box, etc...

 

[adnansanat]

His personal issues are not my business so just want to give an answer for your question.

Only oral cycles were common shit in 70s area. We all know what's the best for sure. But that will work for "little boost", no doubt. Proviron keeps her libido awake during the cycle. So if he will go for only oral cycle, proviron should be in there.

Millions of lurker and idgaf guys around there who do it just for summer times. He can do it for sure.

 

[88general88]

Disclaimer: this isn't for me. I love test and oddly I love pinning. I would personally never run oral only.

I got a close friend who really wants to try something to help him start a cut/recomp. Last year I helped him get setup with a 12-14 week test cyp cycle at 600mg/week (first cycle). He had great results and loved it, but because of his wife, he had to store all his gear at my place. I gave him a key so he could come do his injections throughout the week. Unfortunately, that won't work logistically anymore.

He asked me about doing oral only. And I explained to him exact thing your thinking right now about how dumb oral only is. But he seems persistent on the idea and doesn't really care about getting low T symptoms.

So here is my question: if my buddy ran anavar or tbol with proviron for 4-5weeks woud that help at all? hes not looking to get huge, he just wants a little boost.

If he wants an oral only cycle, just set him up with some halo, proviron, methyl-tren, letro, and caber.

Oh and I almost forgot ... a new liver, and a new relationship.

If he is truly your friend. You need to intervene and say NOOOOOOOO to an orals only.
With all jokes aside, halo is an approved option for trt. So theoretically you could use it as a base. I am unfamiliar with what would be considered proper dosing.

 

[88general88]

Where there's a will, there's a way... Meaning, he can get injectable steroids and keep them in a number of places (this his wife will never find) if he so desires... Car, work, gym locker, safe deposit box, etc...

Back of the toilet in a waterproof bag. Oh shit that’s my hiding spot

 

[musclemedicine]

If he wants an oral only cycle, just set him up with some halo, proviron, methyl-tren, letro, and caber.

Oh and I almost forgot ... a new liver, and a new relationship.

If he is truly your friend. You need to intervene and say NOOOOOOOO to an orals only.
With all jokes aside, halo is an approved option for trt. So theoretically you could use it as a base. I am unfamiliar with what would be considered proper dosing.

I have convinced him to do a test prop cycle with anadrol. He plans to hide his gear in the car as someone recommended earlier.

 

[88general88]

Good man, that’s what buddies are for. My only question is that people tend to grow fairly quick on BOTH those compounds. I know if I gained 15lbs. in a month(bloat) My soon to be ex-wife would have known something was up. So I dont know how much your boy grew on 600milli’s of Test, but you might want to do him another decent other than talking him out of the oral only mistake, coach him on what to say to the wife when she Starts telling him he looks like fucking balloon. Anyhow that’s all I got.

 

[Hazedd]

If he wants an oral only cycle, just set him up with some halo, proviron, methyl-tren, letro, and caber.

Oh and I almost forgot ... a new liver, and a new relationship.

If he is truly your friend. You need to intervene and say NOOOOOOOO to an orals only.
With all jokes aside, halo is an approved option for trt. So theoretically you could use it as a base. I am unfamiliar with what would be considered proper dosing.

Ive heard that Anavar isn't really that liver toxic, but I'm relatively new to the steroid scene

Exactly. Shutting down your natural test for a month the look more full? Not worth it. Just as hard if not harder to bounce back from.

but doesn’t test also shut down your natural test considering you’re replacing it with a synthetic version? Just curious, kind of a newbie when it comes to AAS but I thought I’d start learning on here!

 

[Turbo charged]

Keep it at a looker in the gym and use it there. Not good to carry it around

 

[88general88]

Keep it at a looker in the gym and use it there. Not good to carry it around

sounds like you have a membership to one of those gyms that assigns you a personal locker, hands you a towel, massages, happy endings, etc. must be nice. I hate to assume something because you know what that does, however, I would assume that if he had his own private locker, he would have already been doing that. Otherwise keeping it in a locker at the gym where you DON’T have private access, is a great way to give way your cycle to cleaning crew, and/or maintenance man. Since they would be the ones clipping the locks 3days a wk, in the morning before the gym opens, like they do at the Gold’s I work at; every Sunday morning before 8am like they do at some 24hr fitness’ and planet fitness’ that are open 24hrs. a day. Funny when the maintenance workers are fucking yolked and the front desk and PT are all skinny-fat.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Ive heard that Anavar isn't really that liver toxic, but I'm relatively new to the steroid scene

but doesn’t test also shut down your natural test considering you’re replacing it with a synthetic version? Just curious, kind of a newbie when it comes to AAS but I thought I’d start learning on here!

Liver toxicity is a given with any 17-aa oral. To what degree would depend on dosage, duration and each persons unique response. The same dosage and duration for two different people would likely give different results, as far as liver enzyme analysis is concerned.

All AAS cause suppression to some degree. That's why it's advised to always run Test as a base with any cycle.

 

[SpringHeelSkank]

Keep it at a looker in the gym and use it there. Not good to carry it around

Agreed on the car, never store a controlled substance in your vehicle. You're just putting yourself at risk driving around with it. Murphy's Law is a mother fucker, particularly so commuting to work with a controlled substance.