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PaintDrinker’s Cut Log Ft. Masteron & Tirzepatide & Accutane
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Ghoul
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Recent research shows Accutane liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated with injury nearly non-existant, with some studies questioning the need for routine bloodwork, since there are so few cases of terminating treatment as a result.
Lipid panel can get ugly but for such a short term it's not much of a concern.
Tirz will provide a tremendous boost to liver health. It literally reverses fatty liver disease and scarring. Consider staying on continuously, just below weight loss dose to continue its potent liver fat clearance benefits.
Trunk Acne is much, much harder to clear than face acne. Lower back and shoulders are the last to go. 220mg/kg+ cumulative dose shows the best rates of permanently curing it. 2mg/kg is the max daily dose which I just dropped down from (180mg/day) as the sides (back pain) were finally a bit too much to handle and unlike lower doses were not easing off after a week or so of titrating up.
At each higher titration level some new skin improvement would take place (which just makes you want to keep going), along with another "purge" in a different area than had previously gone through it.
At this point, 4 months in, at 170mg/day with all of my skin clear, one new large painful pimple appeared on my lower back that's quickly shriveling up, which I take as a sign the most difficult area to "reach" with accutane is finally giving up, and I've got major skin flaking which is accompanied by rapid lightening of hyper-pigmented acne marks as skin is turning over quickly.
Had to place a couple of urgent accutane orders as I kept increasing my cumulative total goals, seeing that the sides were tolerable, my definition of "clear skin" kept going higher, and my desire for "one and done" meant I needed to go from 5,000mg to 20,000mg total.
Lipid panel can get ugly but for such a short term it's not much of a concern.
Tirz will provide a tremendous boost to liver health. It literally reverses fatty liver disease and scarring. Consider staying on continuously, just below weight loss dose to continue its potent liver fat clearance benefits.
Trunk Acne is much, much harder to clear than face acne. Lower back and shoulders are the last to go. 220mg/kg+ cumulative dose shows the best rates of permanently curing it. 2mg/kg is the max daily dose which I just dropped down from (180mg/day) as the sides (back pain) were finally a bit too much to handle and unlike lower doses were not easing off after a week or so of titrating up.
At each higher titration level some new skin improvement would take place (which just makes you want to keep going), along with another "purge" in a different area than had previously gone through it.
At this point, 4 months in, at 170mg/day with all of my skin clear, one new large painful pimple appeared on my lower back that's quickly shriveling up, which I take as a sign the most difficult area to "reach" with accutane is finally giving up, and I've got major skin flaking which is accompanied by rapid lightening of hyper-pigmented acne marks as skin is turning over quickly.
Had to place a couple of urgent accutane orders as I kept increasing my cumulative total goals, seeing that the sides were tolerable, my definition of "clear skin" kept going higher, and my desire for "one and done" meant I needed to go from 5,000mg to 20,000mg total.
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PaintDrinker
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No specific diet just all clean sources. Fat sources are olive oil, avocado, Brazil nuts trace fat from meat. With the tirzepatide right now it’s actually pretty hard to eat enough. I’ve been liking fairlife ultra filtered milk also. Life saver when I can’t get chicken down.
My main protein source is plain chicken breast cooked in an instapot. No seasoning or sauce just try to eat it as fast as I can and be done with it.
PaintDrinker
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Yesterdays macros 
UncleBuns
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Nice progress! Reasonable doses. Glad you're taking lowest necessary dose after the health issues. You were getting pretty wild there for a bit with the drugs. Looks like 400 mg is kicking ass for you!
PaintDrinker
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Super flat but getting there
UncleBuns
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Once you get to goal body fat and add in more carbs.... Boom! Will totally be worth the effort.
PaintDrinker
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Arms were in the 18s already under 17.5 but your right. Hopefully I can pull off a nice rebound, with some better skin.. haha
UncleBuns
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I hate cutting, but the final product once you re-feed is so worth it.
iris
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Hey, hope all is good with you.
How's the accutane going?
Are you taking it, despite your concerns?
Whenever I read stuff like the above "liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated with injury nearly non-existant, with some studies questioning the need for routine bloodwork".. etc, I wonder who the data refers to.
Is it not toxic for people who presented liver/kidney issues, to begin with, or is it something that relates to healthy individuals, only?
Sorry, just a thought, but I have not looked into what it all means.
It's good to see you.
You will be back to where you were pre- health scare in no time.
How's the accutane going?
Are you taking it, despite your concerns?
Whenever I read stuff like the above "liver toxicity is greatly exaggerated with injury nearly non-existant, with some studies questioning the need for routine bloodwork".. etc, I wonder who the data refers to.
Is it not toxic for people who presented liver/kidney issues, to begin with, or is it something that relates to healthy individuals, only?
Sorry, just a thought, but I have not looked into what it all means.
It's good to see you.
You will be back to where you were pre- health scare in no time.
Ghoul
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It can cause elevated liver enzymes in some people. One recent study showed 1.3% of those using high doses had elevated enzymes, but not high enough to require stopping treatment. Levels return to normal after stopping,
Many countries no longer require liver function tests for accutane use.
Roughly 20 million people have used accutane worldwide over the last 40 years and there isn't a single documented case of liver injury.
Can Accutane cause permanent liver damage?
Official answer: No reports of permanent liver damage associated with Accutane (isotretinoin) could be found in the literature but...
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(And incidentally @iris, I know this not because I'm autistic or have ADHD, it's because I'm concerned enough about my long term health to invest the time to educate myself up front, rather than potentially pay a much heavier price later.)
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I’m still waiting for the lab test results bro.It can cause elevated liver enzymes in some people. One recent study showed 1.3% of those using high doses had elevated enzymes, but not high enough to require stopping treatment. Levels return to normal after stopping,
Many countries no longer require liver function tests for accutane use.
Roughly 20 million people have used accutane worldwide over the last 40 years and there isn't a single documented case of liver injury.
Can Accutane cause permanent liver damage?
Official answer: No reports of permanent liver damage associated with Accutane (isotretinoin) could be found in the literature but...
Ghoul
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I'll be back there to address that shortly.
iris
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It can cause elevated liver enzymes in some people. One recent study showed 1.3% of those using high doses had elevated enzymes, but not high enough to require stopping treatment. Levels return to normal after stopping,
Many countries no longer require liver function tests for accutane use.
Roughly 20 million people have used accutane worldwide over the last 40 years and there isn't a single documented case of liver injury.
Can Accutane cause permanent liver damage?
Official answer: No reports of permanent liver damage associated with Accutane (isotretinoin) could be found in the literature but...
(And incidentally @iris, I know this not because I'm autistic or have ADHD, it's because I'm concerned enough about my long term health to invest the time to educate myself up front, rather than potentially pay a much heavier price later.)
Thanks.
Please note I have never said you are autistic, have adhd or whatever.
Maybe you are referring to something someone else believes about you.
Also, even if you had any of the issues you mentioned, I wouldn't hold them against you.
Everyone is fucked up in a way or another.
My question to OP, since he did have health problems, recently, was whether he was aware the claims about safety were warranted, in his particular situation.
That's all.
But I am sure this is something he has thought about, too.
Thanks for the reply.
PaintDrinker
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Hate being this flat. Chest acne has a maybe 5% better since my last update. Side abs are coming in. Can someone give me a rough estimate of bf based on the pic? 14%? 
Damn, I hope it gets better soon buddy. People with worse had theirs clear up, it just takes time.
PaintDrinker
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PaintDrinker
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Looking lean and mean bro, Nick bare got nothing on you
PaintDrinker
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209 lbs flat and deflated. Drugs are probably way too low. Down 32lbs from peak bulk. Literally cannot wait to rip insulin and push the food hard 5k cals plus. Should be a wild rebound back up to 230-240. Shooting for 7% bf now adjusted my goals. 
