PCT for TRT blast

[RCCP]

Look through a couples of threads and didnt really find anys thing. Most PCT threads/guides center around those coming completely off of it but nothing about those on TRT dosage. Would someone who's is on Test and HCT for TRT not have a PCT because they aren't going need their's body natural production to come back up?

In other words would someones coming off a blast of AAS with HCG just immediately drop down to TRT dose of test and continue their normal Test and HCG dosages? until the next blast?

 

[Evom1]

What is your long term goal? If this is just about quality of life then trt. If you have hopes of becoming huge its smart to completely come off and clear out once in a while. How old are you?

 

[RCCP]

What is your long term goal? If this is just about quality of life then trt. If you have hopes of becoming huge its smart to completely come off and clear out once in a while. How old are you?

Not sure what yous getting at? Long term goal for what? I'm on TRT and want to "cycles" as TRT only does so much. My TRT dosage keeps me around 1,000 less and I'm ins the 300s naturally.

I'm just wondering if there is a proper way to come off of blast in the past I simply stop blast and continue my TRT of test and hcg.

 

[ETownSmoke]

If you are currently on full time TRT you don’t have to do a pct cause you aren’t coming off test completely.
Do your blast and just go right back to your TRT dose like nothing changed.

 

[bull48]

I was always under the assumption that TRT is a lifetime thing, not something you can do temporarily. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

 

[RCCP]

I was always under the assumption that TRT is a lifetime thing, not something you can do temporarily. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

It life, unless there was some different medical reason your test was low and that was solved. If your there is nones underlying medical condition and you're test is just low because thats what life gave you then yes it's for life. I'm am "normal" with out it but my quality of lives is so much better on it.

 

[bull48]

It life, unless there was some different medical reason your test was low and that was solved. If your there is nones underlying medical condition and you're test is just low because thats what life gave you then yes it's for life. I'm am "normal" with out it but my quality of lives is so much better on it.

If I was in your shoes, I would just go back to your normal TRT doses after your blast.

 

[RCCP]

That's what I do/done but I couldnt find anythings saying that's the proper way. It seem common sense but when dealing with hormones and stuff I wanted to reach out to the communitys and make sure that commons sense was good.

 

[Worf]

TIme off=time on, maybe longer. Return to trt dose. Depending on what you were blasting there needs to be time given for the body to return to homeostasis. I.e. blood markers return to normal and cholesterol. This is basically blast and cruise but probably much more responsible doses. If your doc is blood testing every 6 months you need to time these blasts accordingly.

 

[RCCP]

no mores doctors involved, 100-200USD a month just for meds plus the cost of seeing doctor plus the costs for blood testing. This is why you'll see me in the source threads and home brews more. for the cost of a singles month treatment from a doctor I can brew years of my own. I already have most everything for the labs I just need to source BA/BB and filters and Raws. Or just by finished which is still less thans half the price from pharmacy.

 

[Evom1]

Not sure what yous getting at? Long term goal for what? I'm on TRT and want to "cycles" as TRT only does so much. My TRT dosage keeps me around 1,000 less and I'm ins the 300s naturally.

I'm just wondering if there is a proper way to come off of blast in the past I simply stop blast and continue my TRT of test and hcg.

What I'm saying is if you're on trt to improve quality of life, and you just do this recreationally, then trt between cycles. If your goal is to really get huge/build substantial mass, you'll want to completely come off once in a while to clear out

 

[Bundy55]

What I'm saying is if you're on trt to improve quality of life, and you just do this recreationally, then trt between cycles. If your goal is to really get huge/build substantial mass, you'll want to completely come off once in a while to clear out

I could be way off on my information but I thought all the top pro’s blast and cruise (mostly blast) and never come off. If they do come off, they just go cold turkey for a few months? Do they just take HCG for a few months to keep feeling ok while clearing out? And you make better gains doing that then just staying on trt between blasts to maintain? I understand the premise of giving your body a break from all outside sources of test but I thought when you B&C for so long that you’re better off just staying on. Don’t expect you to have every answer to this but this discussion just got me thinking on all of this since I’m heavily considering blasting and cruising instead of cycling myself

 

[Evom1]

I could be way off on my information but I thought all the top pro’s blast and cruise (mostly blast) and never come off. If they do come off, they just go cold turkey for a few months? Do they just take HCG for a few months to keep feeling ok while clearing out? And you make better gains doing that then just staying on trt between blasts to maintain? I understand the premise of giving your body a break from all outside sources of test but I thought when you B&C for so long that you’re better off just staying on. Don’t expect you to have every answer to this but this discussion just got me thinking on all of this since I’m heavily considering blasting and cruising instead of cycling myself

There's a lot of pros who have been open about it. Dom Cardone made a video recently talking about the importance. I always thought the same as you until I worked with a couple top pros and they all said the same thing. It seemed like the average thought was you go through your off season growth phase, cruise and transition into prep, then after the show come off completely for a bit and clear out.

The protocols I was shows were pretty close to power pct. 10 days of fairly high dose hcg followed by Clomid or Nolva for 4 weeks then off completely

 

[Bundy55]

There's a lot of pros who have been open about it. Dom Cardone made a video recently talking about the importance. I always thought the same as you until I worked with a couple top pros and they all said the same thing. It seemed like the average thought was you go through your off season growth phase, cruise and transition into prep, then after the show come off completely for a bit and clear out.

The protocols I was shows were pretty close to power pct. 10 days of fairly high dose hcg followed by Clomid or Nolva for 4 weeks then off completely

Thanks bro it does make sense. Will have to consider this for myself

 

[Holidaypay]

no mores doctors involved, 100-200USD a month just for meds plus the cost of seeing doctor plus the costs for blood testing. This is why you'll see me in the source threads and home brews more. for the cost of a singles month treatment from a doctor I can brew years of my own. I already have most everything for the labs I just need to source BA/BB and filters and Raws. Or just by finished which is still less thans half the price from pharmacy.

I personally just drop back down to my trt dose I don't notice any difference besides not as horny as before but I'm a savage on blast so that's understandable the trt is the normal level are hormones are supposed to be at so wen we blast its like a cycle but better because we don't have to pct lol

 

[Tyler Max]

There's a lot of pros who have been open about it. Dom Cardone made a video recently talking about the importance. I always thought the same as you until I worked with a couple top pros and they all said the same thing. It seemed like the average thought was you go through your off season growth phase, cruise and transition into prep, then after the show come off completely for a bit and clear out.

The protocols I was shows were pretty close to power pct. 10 days of fairly high dose hcg followed by Clomid or Nolva for 4 weeks then off completely

I actually would like to learn more about these protocols somewhere, but what I imagine is it is for your receptors to get better and clear out. So I imagine 3-4 months off after a 9 month or so of blast and cruise. Something along the lines of; 12 weeks on 12 weeks off 12 weeks on (9 months in total), and then clear out completely with a good pct, wait 3-4 months, repeat. However I do not know if this is a good idea or not.

 

[RCCP]

I actually would like to learn more about these protocols somewhere, but what I imagine is it is for your receptors to get better and clear out. So I imagine 3-4 months off after a 9 month or so of blast and cruise. Something along the lines of; 12 weeks on 12 weeks off 12 weeks on (9 months in total), and then clear out completely with a good pct, wait 3-4 months, repeat. However I do not know if this is a good idea or not.

Not. Then I’ll spend 3 month feels like crap, getting fats with no libido, bad sleep and so on.

 

[Tyler Max]

Not. Then I’ll spend 3 month feels like crap, getting fats with no libido, bad sleep and so on.

I understand but then your solution is to just stay on cruise for ever and blast once in a while. Just trying to understand if there is any benefit like Evom1 said, some people just swear by dropping everything off for a while.

 

[RCCP]

I understand but then your solution is to just stay on cruise for ever and blast once in a while. Just trying to understand if there is any benefit like Evom1 said, some people just swear by dropping everything off for a while.

That the point of Test Replacement Therapy, you're replace the Test that your body isn't making naturally.

 

[bigdeadweight]

This is something I have seen on here a number of times, and the feedback is always that no PCT needed. I would however like to see any studies as I have never seen any research.