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No no, not these guys. I'm saying in general, why buy from a Brewer like this who has no history?

Wunder, just like most things in life, I think it all comes down to options. Those with limited options, are left to either order from an unproven source, or sit on the sidelines using creatine and amino acids (maybe new to the game, or just getting back into the game, or maybe had a long time source who retired, etc).

Admittedly, if those were my choices, I would choose using gear from an unproven source over sitting on the sidelines. Not that I am saying that anyone else should make that choice - but I would.

Heck, looking back on it, I suppose I and many of our most respected members here did just that (go back and read the threads for Bio, PEP, Hercules, Astro, etc). Again, not endorsing, just saying.

Like I said, for the most part, it comes down to options.
The rich man (has options) eats steak, the poor man eats McDoubles.
The wealthy guy (has options) dates models, the chubby guy working in a warehouse dates 3's and 4's.
The guy with connections (options) uses more established labs, the guy without uses less established sources.

And to tie this whole thing together - and explain the whole reason all of us are making these choices to begin with - WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE JACKED, GEAR USING, HEAD TURNING, SHIRT STRETCHING GUY GETS .... ALL OF THE ABOVE, WHATEVER HE WANTS!!!:):):)
 
Wunder, just like most things in life, I think it all comes down to options. Those with limited options, are left to either order from an unproven source, or sit on the sidelines using creatine and amino acids (maybe new to the game, or just getting back into the game, or maybe had a long time source who retired, etc).

Admittedly, if those were my choices, I would choose using gear from an unproven source over sitting on the sidelines. Not that I am saying that anyone else should make that choice - but I would.

Heck, looking back on it, I suppose I and many of our most respected members here did just that (go back and read the threads for Bio, PEP, Hercules, Astro, etc). Again, not endorsing, just saying.

Like I said, for the most part, it comes down to options.
The rich man (has options) eats steak, the poor man eats McDoubles.
The wealthy guy (has options) dates models, the chubby guy working in a warehouse dates 3's and 4's.
The guy with connections (options) uses more established labs, the guy without uses less established sources.

And to tie this whole thing together - and explain the whole reason all of us are making these choices to begin with - WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE JACKED, GEAR USING, HEAD TURNING, SHIRT STRETCHING GUY GETS .... ALL OF THE ABOVE, WHATEVER HE WANTS!!!:):):)
You're right. I suppose my post was intended more to be seen as a warning to newer members.... To not just hop onto the bandwagon.... We've all done it to one degree or another, and luckily we're healthy and lived through it.
 
You're right. I suppose my post was intended more to be seen as a warning to newer members.... To not just hop onto the bandwagon.... We've all done it to one degree or another, and luckily we're healthy and lived through it.

Gee, great, thanks a lot Wunder for making me feel bad for setting a bad example for my Meso brethren.:(

I'll be in the corner with my head hung low if anybody needs me... (que the after school special music here);)
 
Still hasn't gotten back to me about the refund but happily posts price list to take more money
What a snake he is for not making you whole. With the haphazard packaging (the worst was Flenser's pack) he's been using it sure gets dicey for you Aussies ever get a pack through customs (which are even stricter than US customs from what I hear).

Too bad as I bet they don't use stealth packaging for such hard-to-ship-to countries like USA and Australia.
 
What a snake he is for not making you whole. With the haphazard packaging (the worst was Flenser's pack) he's been using it sure gets dicey for you Aussies ever get a pack through customs (which are even stricter than US customs from what I hear).

Too bad as I bet they don't use stealth packaging for such hard-to-ship-to countries like USA and Australia.
Yea, they don't have to be too observant when there are vials sticking out of the pack.
 
Yea, they don't have to be too observant when there are vials sticking out of the pack.
Exactly...a pack like yours would have NEVER made it thru Aussie customs I am sure. Would been seized instantly. I would think Rocket's packs were packed the same as yours thus them getting seized most likely.

Even amazing how your pack got to you even, to begin with.
 
Update - finally got the balance of my order, took about two months and several iterations of "no really, i shipped your pack this time." A few freebies thrown in, no schedule III items this time. Packaging was fine, i did not get the flenser wrapping job, thank god. The product (clen) performs as expected. I really could care less about freebies, just get my order right and to me in a reasonable amount of time and i'm happy.
 
Wunder, just like most things in life, I think it all comes down to options. Those with limited options, are left to either order from an unproven source, or sit on the sidelines using creatine and amino acids (maybe new to the game, or just getting back into the game, or maybe had a long time source who retired, etc).

Admittedly, if those were my choices, I would choose using gear from an unproven source over sitting on the sidelines. Not that I am saying that anyone else should make that choice - but I would.

Heck, looking back on it, I suppose I and many of our most respected members here did just that (go back and read the threads for Bio, PEP, Hercules, Astro, etc). Again, not endorsing, just saying.

Like I said, for the most part, it comes down to options.
The rich man (has options) eats steak, the poor man eats McDoubles.
The wealthy guy (has options) dates models, the chubby guy working in a warehouse dates 3's and 4's.
The guy with connections (options) uses more established labs, the guy without uses less established sources.

And to tie this whole thing together - and explain the whole reason all of us are making these choices to begin with - WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE JACKED, GEAR USING, HEAD TURNING, SHIRT STRETCHING GUY GETS .... ALL OF THE ABOVE, WHATEVER HE WANTS!!!:):):)
I'm a fat guy that works in a warehouse and my wife is a 5 maybe a 6 after a few drinks. I think I just blew a huge hole in your theory Bickel. Sorry brother no hard feelings;)
 
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I know there has been a lot of flame lately on this guy. There were some issues I had with him with an incomplete order then an update that there were logistical issues with moving locations and what not. But I ordered about three months ago was short some items. I kept hearing the same things as you, but have not been flaming him as hard. But, the rest of my order was finally filled just recently with some extras. But, I am in EU which may make things a lot easier for orders such as mine.

But I will say pct came through and it was filled as promised with some freebies
 
I know there has been a lot of flame lately on this guy. There were some issues I had with him with an incomplete order then an update that there were logistical issues with moving locations and what not. But I ordered about three months ago was short some items. I kept hearing the same things as you, but have not been flaming him as hard. But, the rest of my order was finally filled just recently with some extras. But, I am in EU which may make things a lot easier for orders such as mine.

But I will say pct came through and it was filled as promised with some freebies

Dont you think that orders should go through and be complete the first time? I guess it doesnt matter as long as there are "freebies".
 
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