PCT Without Clomid

[Adam Jones]

Gonna do a cycle after manus years. 12 weeks Test E at 350mg twice a week.

Clomid isn't an option for me as I can't get my hands on it would Nolvadex be enough? I have plenty of that. HCG isnt in the cards either

Any feedback would be appreciated

 

[DrDylan]

No, clomid works together with nolva to stimulae LH an FSH

 

[ironwill1951]

you will be fine. hell you can recover without pct it just takes longer.

 

[Wheelhouse]

Nolva and Clomid work in synergy. But if you're stuck you could always use Nova for PCT as:

40/40/20/20/10

 

[Dr. Savage]

From bloodwork I've seen. Nolvadex only for a reasonable cycle length and dosage worked perfectly fine. Shoot. Some people can't even handle clomid at all. Luckily I can even at high dosages

 

[Worf]

You really should use hcg. Nolva and maybe torem would work

 

[TheBeat]

Gonna do a cycle after manus years. 12 weeks Test E at 350mg twice a week.

Clomid isn't an option for me as I can't get my hands on it would Nolvadex be enough? I have plenty of that. HCG isnt in the cards either

Any feedback would be appreciated

A few years back I came off after 10 years and recovered fine with just tamoxifen and got my wife pregnant which was the goal.

 

[Dr. Savage]

A few years back I came off after 10 years and recovered fine with just tamoxifen and got my wife pregnant which was the goal.

Were you just on trt or blasted during trt?

 

[TheBeat]

Were you just on trt or blasted during trt?

Blast and cruised.

 

[Worf]

Blast and cruised.

hcg the whole time?

 

[TheBeat]

hcg the whole time?

No. I ran it the first year, then took years years off of it before sprinkling it in again. Lots of experimenting during the time with compounds, dosages, etc and did lots of blood work the last few years because it became easily accessible and inexpensive for me. Regarding hcg, one of the many things I found true for me is that it worked great at increasing sperm except in the presence of nandrolones.

 

[Worf]

No. I ran it the first year, then took years years off of it before sprinkling it in again. Lots of experimenting during the time with compounds, dosages, etc and did lots of blood work the last few years because it became easily accessible and inexpensive for me. Regarding hcg, one of the many things I found true for me is that it worked great at increasing sperm except in the presence of nandrolones.

Ive herd this as well. Thanks for the info.

 

[Vipera1]

If you haven't started your cycle yet, try to get your hands on it, there are good sources in here.

Obviously you could recover fine without pct as well, just will take longer.

My recommendation get your hands on everything you need before hand.

 

[al'sameesh]

I dont think there is any evidence of clomid being neccesary or being synergistic with nolvadex. Id be happy to be disproved, I just havent been able to find any actual evidence of clomid+nolva being better than nolva by itself

 

[Drew dude]

I dont think there is any evidence of clomid being neccesary or being synergistic with nolvadex. Id be happy to be disproved, I just havent been able to find any actual evidence of clomid+nolva being better than nolva by itself

I read the science behind it before but, can't remember it off the top of my head... they both work well individually but they operate through seperate pathways... clomid tends to give slightly better results, which i ironic since it is an estrogen agonist and antagonist. Estrogenic in the liver and at the pituitary. Nolvadex when combined with clomid will take away the estrogenic agonist effects of clomid at the pituitary.

They both work well alone... clomid is more effective if you are only gonna pick one. I'm in my last days of the Michael Scally PCT right now.