People dose 5-Amino-1MQ WAY TO LOW for it to have any possible effect.

[Proud Pangolin]

So i just wanted to point this out. I just took a look at my chinese source and the highest comcentration per vial.tgey offered is 50mg which is COMPLETELY laughable!

Let me take the mouse study with the highest dosage
60mg/kg which translates to:
4.864864864864865 mg/kg in humans.

For a 100kg Person this woild mean you had to inject: 486mg !!!

But even with 20mg/kg in mice it would still be: 325mg!!!


And what if i take pills?? Well for mice the bioa. was 38% which would result in you having to take:

-1280mg

- 854mg

 

[Photon]

It is unfortunate but this is the case for a large number of peptides.

500mg/day =~750$/day.

For prices to drop, most "new" products would have to be purchased in large quantities at absurd prices for years. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Its the exact model used by pharmaceutical companies whereby they charge absurd prices for 10+ years or till the patent ends.

Which is also the reason why i tell people not to bother requesting for new peptides, it's just going to be sold at low doses, absurd prices, for years..

 

[Proud Pangolin]

It is unfortunate but this is the case for a large number of peptides.

500mg/day =~750$/day.

For prices to drop, most "new" products would have to be purchased in large quantities at absurd prices for years. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Its the exact model used by pharmaceutical companies whereby they charge absurd prices for 10+ years or till the patent ends.

Which is also the reason why i tell people not to bother requesting for new peptides, it's just going to be sold at low doses, absurd prices, for years..

I found a source that wante $400 for 100g including shipping. However: no quality control. Cant be sure what you get. Thats the problem with these sources from Made in China. Somebody would need to do some jano testing

 

[ParquetPatquet]

You can feel free to skip this one since 5amq has no human research behind it. As in most cases, rodent-to-human calculations are also suspect.

 

[Proud Pangolin]

You can feel free to skip this one since 5amq has no human research behind it. As in most cases, rodent-to-human calculations are also suspect.

How dare you not challange nebti put more research chemicals into my body

 

[frenexen]

I only tried it once as I had a little chloride powder to test it. It’s extremely water soluble, easily dissolved at 100mg/ml. I did a 1 mL subq shot, burned like a mfer.

Some stimulant effects but I literally did not sleep a second that day, so never tried again or ordered more. Kind of wish I tried it some more in hindsight but was a longtime ago. Probably should have tried it IM.

I probably would just use NAD as I heard some stimulant like anecdotes, but plenty of other stims to work with so just haven’t really bothered to get around to it.

Last price I was quoted was $260 for 100g a while ago, so not expensive at all.

 

[gothier]

5-Amino-1MQ actually has good oral bioavailability, so injecting it isn’t absolutely necessary. I had reached a plateau with Reta (5mg) in January and added 5-Amino (100mg) + SLU-PP 332 (30mg) at the beginning of February. Both taken orally, and I was able to overcome my plateau, staying at 5mg Reta.

 

[frenexen]

5-Amino-1MQ actually has good oral bioavailability, so injecting it isn’t absolutely necessary. I had reached a plateau with Reta (5mg) in January and added 5-Amino (100mg) + SLU-PP 332 (30mg) at the beginning of February. Both taken orally, and I was able to overcome my plateau, staying at 5mg Reta.

What is your source on its oral bioavailability?

 

[gothier]

What is your source on its oral bioavailability?

5-Amino-1MQ is not a peptide but a small molecule. It is not broken down in the gastrointestinal tract.

Josh Holyfield most recently mentioned 38%, here:
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RsAuzjIJM0&t=717


Peptide “clinics” estimate the value similarly, for example here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO8CH_MaxWk&t=139s

 

[frenexen]

5-Amino-1MQ is not a peptide but a small molecule. It is not broken down in the gastrointestinal tract.

Josh Holyfield most recently mentioned 38%, here:
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RsAuzjIJM0&t=717


Peptide “clinics” estimate the value similarly, for example here:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO8CH_MaxWk&t=139s

So this isn’t a source bud. It’s 38% in rats, and cited as being too low in mice to be used orally. A source would be a study, but it doesn’t exist. Just because a compound is a small molecule doesn’t mean it has any oral bioavailability.

Don’t make claims you can’t back up.

 

[gothier]

You’re right. But what other experiences are there with 5-Amino-1MQ from people who have taken it? Based on the information I’ve gathered, I decided to give it a try. But in the end, everyone has to decide for themselves and do their own research.