So far that's 3 floaters and one possible infection
I have kept my opinions to myself cause I wanted to see how things unfolded with pep but no more!
I believe his quality and sterility have gone to shit yet he still gets praised
We and when I say we I mean meso have ran out labs for the same exact reason yet pep gets a pass why.
pep I believe you should close shop till you can get these issues under control.
And don't worry I'm know some of the members are not going to like my post but its my opinion and I feel I wouldn't be a member worth a shit if I didn't say something as I consider some of these guys my friends. And I do not wanna see any meso member get hurt because no one wanted to say anything.
I never intended to join meso to rustle feathers, but I also came to contribute, so come what may.
You want this guy to shut down because of a few pieces of rubber and one guy who went to the er a day after his shot ? Before you get your pitchforks and mob ready, why don't you slow down and let things unfold.
For starters, I've read a couple of people mention this rubber floater "issue" already, and I'm starting to get annoyed by the bombastic reactions. If you've stabbed a bottle with a rubber stopper on it enough times, especially with an 18g needle to draw, you're going to end up with some rubber sooner or later. You can't really expect that shit to stay intact, can you? Stick around and do some cycles, you'll get some rubber. You know how you deal with it? You shoot it out, and fuck around with the vial until you get all the gear out you can with no rubber. You don't throw half the gd bottle away.
As far as this guy with the infection, assuming he actually had cellulitis; you can get cellulitis by breaking your skin period. Cellulitis is caused by your own skin's bacteria invading an open wound and causing inflammation. I don't want to make any negative assumptions or disparaging remarks about this guy's injection prep, but it's also not wise to jump the gun and immediately assume it's dirty gear.
Now, it
could be dirty gear. I don't make it and I haven't tested it, so how do I know? What I
do know, is that PIP is a relatively normal thing to occur when injecting any medication, be it anabolics or otherwise. Some ugl's are better than others as far as how much pip you get, some of these guys use different ratio's of ba/bb which affect that. IMO, as long as that muscle isn't too sore to work out the day of or day after, then you're gtg. If you have consistent pip that is unbearable, and lasts for days, then that could be a problem and you should probably discontinue. I had a batch from one ugl (not from meso) where I consistently had pip for 5-7 days, that for me was too much ( it also might have been an ethyl oleate allergy, mind you).
You need to all know and remember that getting an abscess is part of the risk, that shit can happen with the purest of medication. You are penetrating the organ of your body that protects you from infection. That's why it's important to practice aseptic techniques (sterile is not realistic in your house, know the difference) and recognize when pip goes beyond normal and into potential infection/abscess.
Again, I have no bias. This guy could have a legitimate claim, but recognize that it's pretty foolish to immediately jump to the conclusion that his gear was dirty and the lab must shutdown.
