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stomps said:
Are you kidding me.
I will address your comments that I bolded
1st thing I did wait and let things unfold I put that in my first post about all this.

2nd two of the people with floaters the vials were unopened and unused. Also duck pulled his out and I don't believe his was a stopper. I also don't believe the other guys was a stopper either I linked his thread in a couple post before this one.

3rd who the fuck are you yo tell me to stick around and cycle I have been here for years and know what the fuck I'm doing.

As far as the infection I have said my piece on that.

I said my piece about pep and that's all I can do people can do what they wish with it.
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Don't forget about the 4 vials of mast e and the weird substance which no one can identify.
 
ColdBeastingIT said:
reply to SF
My very first pin of PEP's gear was his test enth 500 1ml in my glute.. Same thing happened with me weirdest bright red for two days and the pip sucked... but it all went away no infection. So I cut back to .5ml pep test 500 and cut with some decca and warmed that shit up no problems since.. I have pinned his sust, prop, 300 enth and 500 enth in delts and glutes with no problem I hate pinning delts though and always get a little sore in my left delt.. i have a hard time reaching and squirm too much (tren ace one time in delt no pip but killed my cardio for the day at .5ml legit stuff 8]) if your symptoms clear up like mine did within 4-5 days give er another whack heh try cutting with something, warming up oil, etc.. seems to work for me and many others. ill gladly take any unused product you feel the need to discard hehe
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Same here with peps cyp - lasts up to the day I do my next pin (3 days) get large mass, sore, red, pain in my ass but bearable. Tried to cut w/new mast pep sent but did not help - changed cyp and was fine.
 
SF_49ers said:
Still unsure as to what I wanna do Tao. I think I will most likely try to pin again either tomorrow or friday in a different location, make sure technique is flawless, and go from there. If I have another flare up like this and it's what to expect each time, then there's no way I can continue on w/ this cycle, if all goes well..then i'll ride it out.
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That is fair. Maybe try heating it and see how that goes? Please keep us informed. Especially with the speculation about infection.
 
I hate high dosed gear personally. I would rather pin every day twice a day than blow some painfull mega dosed gear into my quads or ass. I used to homebrew and never could get anything high dosed to be pip less. Maybe these new cats can these days but that was never my experience.
 
TaoPhD said:
That is fair. Maybe try heating it and see how that goes? Please keep us informed. Especially with the speculation about infection.
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I did this every time I pinned but made no difference for me - but its worth a try.
Good luck SF - hope things turn out for the best.
 
Spyder said:
Don't forget about the 4 vials of mast e and the weird substance which no one can identify.
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Shit totally forgot about that one so that makes 7 total fucked up vials :eek:

Also I would like to add a lot of people are posting saying oh no worries I had the same big as red swollen area it's normal WTF that is not the norm with quality gear period.
 
The first time I pinned 2 cc's of PEP's test-E in my (virgin) glute, it ended up becoming a knot. A day later some redness appeared and was hot to the touch. I payed close attention to this. I was really worried that I was getting some sort of abscess. The pain was tolerable, but when I say tolerable I mean it hurt bad (a little limping, just a bit worse than my previous first-injections) , but I got over it within 4 days, with pain subsiding slowly after the second day. I started pm'ing members asking if anyone has had any similar PIP. Many responded 'yes', almost all of them advised me to cut it with another oil. So when it came to to pin again, I pinned mixing 1cc of test E and 1CC of EQ, 2X a week instead. Once I cut the test-e at 1:1 ratio PIP pretty much became obsolete. Of course I had the usual soreness a day later, but I really feel that once I diluted it 1:1 with my EQ, everything fell into place.

As far as what I encountered during the first pin: it wasn't an abscess. Nothing started to form underneath my
Skin besides knotted muscle. I took my temperature about 9 times, and at no point was i running a fever, experiencing pitting edema, etc. Several people just told me it was probably because it is dosed higher than standard test-E (250/ml), and advised me to cut it.

Anyways, for what it's worth, I took the advice of cutting the oil with my EQ, and I haven't had another problem since, besides normal PIP. If you have the option of cutting the oil, I definitely suggest it. It was a game-changer for me.

I hope you feel better, my redness wasn't as profound as yours.

How is the pain now?
 
Pain is pretty significant. Right now i'm just past the 48 hour mark though so hopefully by days 3-4 i'll see some improvement.
 
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