Pharacom test results, under dosed

[roastdawg]

No. There are 4 of their products currently at the lab. I will post a matrix of the products being testing soon.

Bad ass!

 

[skagitmaster]

Darius, has seemed like a good dude etc. It looks really bad that he hasn't chimed in on any of these threads.

 

[sin]

Darius, has seemed like a good dude etc. It looks really bad that he hasn't chimed in on any of these threads.

Not to defend him, but Idk what he could say that would do any good. Maybe he knows that pretty much anything he said will be met with opposition and instead of fighting he is trying to figure out something. Now rather or not that something is helpful or hurtful to meso or those who purchased the products, idk. Like I said, not defending him as it's meso brothers over sources all day over here just trying to make sense of why he isn't responding.

 

[skagitmaster]

I hear yah bud, I was excited for my pack that is now in transit, now I'm a bit bummed

 

[MindlessWork]

Not to defend him, but Idk what he could say that would do any good. Maybe he knows that pretty much anything he said will be met with opposition and instead of fighting he is trying to figure out something. Now rather or not that something is helpful or hurtful to meso or those who purchased the products, idk. Like I said, not defending him as it's meso brothers over sources all day over here just trying to make sense of why he isn't responding.

That would be the best course of action in his case...coming up with something that will please everyone and also to placate their concerns. So thinking through his options and presenting the best one is what I think he's doing so that he wouldn't be stirring the boiling pot even more.

 

[bullets69]

Hey guys according to this scientific study

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11701431

600 mg test E a week for 20 weeks gave an average "nadir" blood concentration of 2370 ng/dl. So the yeah those labs do seem low. But not crazy low. I just started pharmacom masteron and based off feel it is stronger than fucking geneza masteron.

I'm optimistic pharmacom products are strong enough to help me improve my physique and btw 1800 total test should be enough for you to gain muscle mass.

Also oil concentrations are in units of milligrams per milliliter and blood concentrations are in units of nanograms per deciliter so its kinda silly to propose a direct relationship between the two although I do see why that is convenient.

 

[bullets69]

But yeah since those multiples of injected dose numbers are popular, you can see that this studies suggests a relationship of 4x with that ratio trending down as dose increases.

 

[flenser]

But yeah since those multiples of injected dose numbers are popular, you can see that this studies suggests a relationship of 4x with that ratio trending down as dose increases.

You're comparing nadir (lowest) to peak levels.

 

[manafest]

My outlook is this all just took place and everyone is all riled up... people that actually have a stake in this gear need to relax a bit until everything gets figured out. Too many others that don't have a stake in this are just rambeling on manking things worse and beating a dead horse over and over .Takes time to find solutions to situations on anything.

 

[Haunch]

You're comparing nadir (lowest) to peak levels.

I dont know shit about all the test levels. Seems to me that being on E for 20 weeks and injecting 3x a week you'd always be at or near a stable level, peak or otherwise. I posted my P bloods based on what I had read and how other people had tested. 16 hours after last injection, hope that was close enough. BTW, I was only pinning my glutes so I'm not concerned about the different absorption rates of different muscles. Why is it we've seen bloods done of folks on E or C pushing numbers around 5k or higher? Were they doing a gram plus a week?

 

[Docd187123]

I dont know shit about all the test levels. Seems to me that being on E for 20 weeks and injecting 3x a week you'd always be at or near a stable level, peak or otherwise. I posted my P bloods based on what I had read and how other people had tested. 16 hours after last injection, hope that was close enough. BTW, I was only pinning my glutes so I'm not concerned about the different absorption rates of different muscles. Why is it we've seen bloods done of folks on E or C pushing numbers around 5k or higher? Were they doing a gram plus a week?

The study you linked only injected test e weekly. They also injected a GNRH agonist monthly.

 

[strongsafety41]

I was on Prescribed TRT for 2 years at 100mg test cyp per week and consistently produced 1000-1200ng. Those numbers the op produced are low. And yes I am living proof that the 10X of weekly dose is an accurate assessment. Mind you, my numbers were 7 days after my last pin. I pinned on Friday's always after my bloods were taken.

 

[Haunch]

The study you linked only injected test e weekly. They also injected a GNRH agonist monthly.

OK thanks, so completely different animal then what we're talking about

 

[Docd187123]

I was on Prescribed TRT for 2 years at 100mg test cyp per week and consistently produced 1000-1200ng. Those numbers the op produced are low. And yes I am living proof that the 10X of weekly dose is an accurate assessment. Mind you, my numbers were 7 days after my last pin. I pinned on Friday's always after my bloods were taken.

A buddy on another forum takes 300mg a week for TRT and his blood levels are 800-900ng/dL.

 

[strongsafety41]

A buddy on another forum takes 300mg a week for TRT and his blood levels are 800-900ng/dL.

Wow. I've heard of others on prescribed TRT with less than 10X ranges. My point is there are others like myself who prove the 10X rule is attainable. Maybe not for all but for some.

Even still, 600mg and 1800ish ng is really disappointing.

 

[Docd187123]

Wow. I've heard of others on prescribed TRT with mid to low ranges. My point is there are others like myself who prove the 10X rule is attainable. Maybe not for all but for some.

Completely understand as another guy is on 100mg a week and gets consistent 900-1000 similar to you.

 

[double-leg]

That's a naposim Dbol tablet. They're my favorite. I didn't realize naps had that pic. I'm about to change it.

Didn't the company that made naposim go out of business?

 

[Millard]

A buddy on another forum takes 300mg a week for TRT and his blood levels are 800-900ng/dL.

Wow. I've heard of others on prescribed TRT with less than 10X ranges. My point is there are others like myself who prove the 10X rule is attainable. Maybe not for all but for some.

We also need to confirm what the TRT guys with 3-4x are actually taking. Everyone generally refers to it as human grade pharmaceutical testosterone if it's (legally) prescribed by a doctor and dispensed by a pharmacy. The big question is whether they are using REAL human grade (e.g. Watson, etc) or a compounded testosterone product purchased from the TRT clinics preferred compounding pharmacy.

 

[Docd187123]

We also need to confirm what the TRT guys with 3-4x are actually taking. Everyone generally refers to it as human grade pharmaceutical testosterone if it's (legally) prescribed by a doctor and dispensed by a pharmacy. The big question is whether they are using REAL human grade (e.g. Watson, etc) or a compounded testosterone product purchased from the TRT clinics preferred compounding pharmacy.

The two gentlemen I'm talking about were using watson I believe but good point.

 

[roastdawg]

I was on Prescribed TRT for 2 years at 100mg test cyp per week and consistently produced 1000-1200ng. Those numbers the op produced are low. And yes I am living proof that the 10X of weekly dose is an accurate assessment. Mind you, my numbers were 7 days after my last pin. I pinned on Friday's always after my bloods were taken.

That's pretty high for seven days later.... Wonder what your peak levels were at??