Whats up guys, I'm a 23y/o male about to order an anabolic cycle from pharmacom. I was going to run anavar 50mg/day for about 6 weeks and cycle in winstrol about the 3rd week in. Does that sound about right or should I just stack winstrol with anavar when I start it? And about how many mg of winstrol should I take of stacking with anavar? I've been using super bio freak 2.0 for pre workout and that seems to be doing me well.I actually did take a cycle back in college that gave me a little bit of gyno and I'm going to have surgery in December to get rid of it. It's not a massive amount, I just don't like the way my chest looks. With that being said I'm pretty nervous about PCT and gyno any advice on products for PCT would be great.
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Anabolic Steroids
Thesauceboss
New Member
Buddy throw in testosterone. Your going to shut your testiculars off so unless you want to not be able to fuck bitches id throw some test in at about 300mg every week
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Thesauceboss
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Think about having no testosterone at all, synthetic or natural. Your not gonna feel very good and winny will shut you down for sure without test
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Thesauceboss
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And back then when you were in highschool you might have gotten away with an oral only cycle because you probably had lots of test in your body already, but now its gonna be a little different.
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Streetracer_PB
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Yo bud, start with your introduction thread and give some info.. stats, previous cycle history especially the one that gave you gyno and your goal for this cycle.
Oral only cycle is a waste, anavar is expensive and i dont like wasting money. Stacking two orals are harsh on the liver, anavar is milder but stacked with winstrol is still too toxic for the yielded results.
Test base cycles can be controlled with an AI and will prevent any further gyno..
Or are you dodging needles?
Oral only cycle is a waste, anavar is expensive and i dont like wasting money. Stacking two orals are harsh on the liver, anavar is milder but stacked with winstrol is still too toxic for the yielded results.
Test base cycles can be controlled with an AI and will prevent any further gyno..
Or are you dodging needles?
Test_Subject
Member
No mention of test. Don't do it unless you enjoy feeling like shit and being tired all the time.
Injections aren't that painful. No need to be scared. I know that it's almost a platitude at this point, but if you're scared of needles, don't join the dark side.
Yeah I'm not really looking to use needles tbh. Just not a fan, but I might be open to them depending on the feedback I get from you guys...anyway I was 19 when I took an oral cycle in college and I think it was called foreged or some shit. I weighed 150 at the beginning of it and weighed about 190 at the end. It was only a one month cycle and I looked pretty bloated at the end of it. Basically just had some guys on the baseball team take me up to the local dealer and he said take this...so being a 19 year old not knowing anything I did. No PCT or anything. I made this account because I really don't know much about any of this. I'm basically looking to get really cut maybe a little more vascular and a little bigger. Right now I weigh 185 and I'm 6'2. I do have a good amount of muscle mass for my size and I have about 6.5%body fat.
Test_Subject
Member
Let me give you the basics: orals will shut down your natural testosterone production because they fool the body into thinking that it has more test in circulation than it does. Because of this, natural production stops. Orals do NOT replace testosterone for natural endocrine functions. If you don't supplement with testosterone injections, you will enter a low test state which is the worst possible condition for building and maintaining muscle mass.
You WILL feel like a bag of hot garbage on an oral only cycle. There's a good chance your dick will stop working as well. I'm not trying to scare you, I'm telling you what you need to know.
You WILL feel like a bag of hot garbage on an oral only cycle. There's a good chance your dick will stop working as well. I'm not trying to scare you, I'm telling you what you need to know.
If your not open to using needles you shouldn't use anything. I wasn't wanting to use needles either when I first started but trust me it's not a big deal. There's plenty of videos online showing you where to shot and how. Once you do it one time it's not a big deal after that. Just convinceing yourself to pin is the hardest part. But you've got ALOT to read up on before you start any gear.
TS561
New Member
Steroid Post Cycle Therapy and ASIH Treatment
Start here, but don't stop there. You need to educate yourself a lot more before you can even consider anything. Read all the different threads, and the info you need is just waiting for you.
Start here, but don't stop there. You need to educate yourself a lot more before you can even consider anything. Read all the different threads, and the info you need is just waiting for you.
Thesauceboss
New Member
Id say save the stress on your body and look into SARMS. They arent classified as steroids, but do produce sufficient gains. Google search ostarine. You can expect to gain 15 pounds of lean mass if you kill it in the gym and keep your diet to match your goals.
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Thesauceboss
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Be aware you can be shut down on sarms but they are not nearly as suppressive as any oral steroid. But they say you dont need to use anything for pct and claim you wont be shut down at all, while theres only some people that actually do get shut down from them
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You're going to feel like complete shit on this... if anything, drop the winny amd var and just run test at 400-500mg a week for 10 weeks. If you really must you could run var for the first 6 weeks at 40-60mg a day or you could run tbol which some people call "Poor man's var". Ha. Not as great for cutting, but it'll help for a nice lean bulk. Honestly though, you could probably gain a good 10-20lbs with just 500mg test a week for 10 weeks.
