Thank you! Will 50mg eod be sufficient you think? I thought tren ace should be pinned ED?
Than you! Could you maybe tell me what would be the lowest dose you would run tren?
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Thank you! Will 50mg eod be sufficient you think? I thought tren ace should be pinned ED?
Than you! Could you maybe tell me what would be the lowest dose you would run tren?
I like Ace. Very easy to control dosage and how much is present in you system -- can increase or decrease the amount fast (like others said, if you do not like it then you can quit and it is gone in a couple days).
My first run with it, I started small at about 30mg ED. Then, I bumped up to 50mg ED then next time once I was confident there were no issues for me.
I like ED to keep levels more stable.
What is nice is that the Pharmacom Tren-A will flow throw a 30g reasonably; I buy 30g 1/2 inch tip to pin it. ED injections require a lot of injection site for a big rotation so thing gets hit more than once a week (in addition to teh base of the stack which for most people would be a 2x a week larger injection in glutes for instance) and the 30g makes it easy to hit nearly any spot without discomfort.
I draw with a 23g and switch to a fresh 30g 1/2" to pin 1/2cc Tren-Ace each day for the final 6 to 8 weeks of a cycle aimed at hardening up.
Nice thank you for the answer! Have you done EOD on tren A too, you feel any different?
Also Im not sure what test/tren ratio to use, as I said, first time using tren but I've done 600mg test+400mg npp, but want to get the most out of least from tren
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I’d go with EOD unless you like being a human pun cushion. Blood levels will remain stable as the acetate ester chain takes about a day to metabolize typically
Here are graphs of blood levels.
first, 100mg EOD:
Vs, 50mg ED:
As you can see, the ED yield much more stable level -- much less of a spike and not as low of lows in between.
The EOD spike up more than 30% higher at peaks and nearly 50% lower and the lowest levels between pins. This is less idea because those are some drastic hormonal swings.
I have tried EOD and got much worse night sweats and some mood issues etc, but with more stable levels I do not have any noticeable side effects at this moderate dosage.
As for testosterone dosage to pair with tren, this is a topic of great interest and debate. It is not yet conclusively resolved and agreed upon. Read up on this recent article series (link in "code" box below) to get a start at understanding tren better and then do a lot more continued research so you may come to your own informed opinion (and I urge you to continue to let that opinion evolve as more info becomes available to you).
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https://thinksteroids.com/articles/science-of-trenbolone-part-01/But with that said, I can make a very overly generalized theory :
IF "cutting"/"hardening" or recomping , run low test and moderate to high tren.
If "gains"/"bulking" , run higher test and moderate to low tren.
Both pin scheduling and dosage ratios , like with most everything else, are different for everyone and highly subject to individual experience, reactions, and preference ; therefore, my advice is just a starting point and ultimately it will just take some time and trial/error to dial in what works best for you and your goals.
There really is no one size fits all -- but I hope some of these ideas give you a good start.
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I’ve done ED and eod and noticed no difference except not having to rotate injection sites as much. Of course everything @RThoads is saying is true, it really comes down to personal preference as he stated.
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Good info guys. I’m a fan of TE but I’ve established in the past I’m ok with the sides at moderate dosages. For a first timer I agree Ace is best in case sides start bucking hard.
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So I got
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And enough farestos and clomid to get me through
Only my second cycle and ain't gonna need half that shit. How y'all think I should go about it?
So I got
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100 tabs dbol
100 tabs winny
100 tabs Anavar
5000 ius hcg
100 tabs accutane (eventually)
And enough farestos and clomid to get me through
Only my second cycle and ain't gonna need half that shit. How y'all think I should go about it?
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About 1-1.5 years ago, I had a huge fiasco with this company. You can go back and read if you'd like to know the story.
Fast forward, I had vials that came from various shipments which included mostly the wrong vials but finally got enough Test to run a cycle. After being paranoid with the vials, I decided to run a Test/EQ cycle.
500mg/Test Cyp/week
600mg/EQ/Week
12.5mg aromasin on injection days
The bloods were drawn ~48 hours after the last pin.
I started this cycle on December 19th and had blood drawn 2/23. So, about 9 weeks into my 16 week cycle. I know, about a week past due.
Overall, I felt what you'd expect on the basic cycle I am on. But I was expecting veins popping out from the EQ, nothing really. I did get an appetite increase but that was about it.
I was mostly worried about EQ because I heard of hemoglobin and hematocrit creeping high and needing blood donations.
The test numbers were lower than I was expecting. I ran another labs stuff and had numbers in the 5k range on the same type of test, so to see these numbers was a bit disappointing.
Let me know if the photos didn't work. I haven't been on this site in a long time and seems like the I'm a tard and can't get the photos to upload.
Fast forward, I had vials that came from various shipments which included mostly the wrong vials but finally got enough Test to run a cycle. After being paranoid with the vials, I decided to run a Test/EQ cycle.
500mg/Test Cyp/week
600mg/EQ/Week
12.5mg aromasin on injection days
The bloods were drawn ~48 hours after the last pin.
I started this cycle on December 19th and had blood drawn 2/23. So, about 9 weeks into my 16 week cycle. I know, about a week past due.
Overall, I felt what you'd expect on the basic cycle I am on. But I was expecting veins popping out from the EQ, nothing really. I did get an appetite increase but that was about it.
I was mostly worried about EQ because I heard of hemoglobin and hematocrit creeping high and needing blood donations.
The test numbers were lower than I was expecting. I ran another labs stuff and had numbers in the 5k range on the same type of test, so to see these numbers was a bit disappointing.
Let me know if the photos didn't work. I haven't been on this site in a long time and seems like the I'm a tard and can't get the photos to upload.
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