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[Klimmzugernie]

All this over a label? Someone's on the Tren train.

Did you buy Nolt just for the Prop and Laurate esters? If so, why? As long as the mg per ml of the other esters matches up, there's literally no difference besides an extended (and not by much) half-life.

I really understand the feedback from pharmacom and I also agree that the difference from the label claim to the real content dosnt have a big impact.. but a ugl lab which presents itself as a high quality brand which is pretty similar to pharma grade gear I simply expect that the content is exactly the same as the label indicates. Simple or?
Furthermore PC just gives an official announcement that the mixture has changed AFTER the lab test results are been officialized. Not very professional in my opinion.

Just my two cents

 

[Turbo charged]

Like to really thankyou your products are very clean and strong have not had any pip issues since using your products. I used to have many issues with others and your vitamins have me at the best I have been in years. Thankyou for high quality products
I am a customer for life.

 

[Ger_1997]

Can you please explain your fake ass labeling of PHARMANOLT 300? You know, the one where you blend "4 esters" of nandrolone and sell it way cheaper than the rest? I feel fucking ripped off after buying it all these years thinking it was something it's not. Anabolic lab proves it.

I've bought over 10 bottles of the shit. I'm one in 10 million customers but are you starting to cut corners? I don't give a flying fuck if it does come out to the same mg, label the shit RIGHT. I encourage everyone to check that test. I couldn't believe it but I always wondered why it was cheaper.

Do you get PIP?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I really understand the feedback from pharmacom and I also agree that the difference from the label claim to the real content dosnt have a big impact.. but a ugl lab which presents itself as a high quality brand which is pretty similar to pharma grade gear I simply expect that the content is exactly the same as the label indicates. Simple or?
Furthermore PC just gives an official announcement that the mixture has changed AFTER the lab test results are been officialized. Not very professional in my opinion.

Just my two cents

i can understand it being based on principle. i suppose i'm looking at it from my POV, which i would be happy with the product, despite the erroneous label claims. But i see where you and @WifeBeater are coming from.

 

[RThoads]

i can understand it being based on principle. i suppose i'm looking at it from my POV, which i would be happy with the product, despite the erroneous label claims. But i see where you and @WifeBeater are coming from.

I agree and also see where they are coming from
but still no need for anyone to be accusatory and rude quoting me -- coming at me as there was some great conspiracy discovered and demanding answers -- we can simply discus the topic respectfully like grown men.

However, that is why the source has offered the product with old labels at a deep discount as an apology and compensation to anyone that is bothered by old labels.

Nonetheless, the website reflects the NEW formulation which I believe is better and anyone making a purchase can see that info on the site.
Also, we had numerous discussions and posts about this already so anyone that does research would have already seen it is an oold topic which has been resolved.
Finally, the HPLC result itself actually confirms Pharmacom put out a GOOD product because it clearly hit the new formula targets and gives 300 mg/mL as both old and new labels claim.
There is ZERO chance of any "cutting corners" or being cheap or anything on the source's end o the final product would not yield such accurate results (hitting the new formulation and clearly giving 300mg/mL total).

 

[rpbb]

I agree and also see where they are coming from
but still no need for anyone to be accusatory and rude quoting me -- coming at me as there was some great conspiracy discovered and demanding answers -- we can simply discus the topic respectfully like grown men.

However, that is why the source has offered the product with old labels at a deep discount as an apology and compensation to anyone that is bothered by old labels.

Nonetheless, the website reflects the NEW formulation which I believe is better and anyone making a purchase can see that info on the site.
Also, we had numerous discussions and posts about this already so anyone that does research would have already seen it is an oold topic which has been resolved.
Finally, the HPLC result itself actually confirms Pharmacom put out a GOOD product because it clearly hit the new formula targets and gives 300 mg/mL as both old and new labels claim.
There is ZERO chance of any "cutting corners" or being cheap or anything on the source's end o the final product would not yield such accurate results (hitting the new formulation and clearly giving 300mg/mL total).

i thought this was resolved and explained 2 years ago

 

[darflundgren]

When I type in my confirmation code it says fake on one of my vials. When I change what is clearly the number one to a lowercase L it says real. My other products are on point and you guys have been amazing to me thus far so its not that I don't trust you. Just giving you a heads up on some confusion that could come up regarding things like this. Do y'all write different outside America? Lol.

 

[Pharmacom Support]

Analyses of the client from Russia, in 12 hours, after injection:

PHARMATEST P 100 (Testosterone Propionate)
75 milligrams.

PHARMATREN A 100 (Trenbolone Acetate)
100 milligrams.

Results:

Estradiol 1984 (norm 40 - 161).
Testosterone > 120.00 (norm 8.9 - 42.0).

 

[Pharmacom Support]

Like to really thankyou your products are very clean and strong have not had any pip issues since using your products. I used to have many issues with others and your vitamins have me at the best I have been in years. Thankyou for high quality products
I am a customer for life.

Thank you for your feedback, we hope you are happy..)))

If you have questions - contact us, we will always help.

 

[Ger_1997]

@WifeBeater
The AnabolicLab result have been explained (I believe this was months ago) and they show our product is GOOD.

Look at the HPLC results -- it is a blend of short and long ester that sums to 300mg/mL total.

IF we were ripping you off or made a mistake, why/how would we be so precise and careful to hit 300mg/mL so accurately (literally closer than tolerances allowed for even certified human grade pharma products)?

Clearly, no one was trying to rip anyone off -- you get a blend of short and long ester nandrolone which adds up to give 300mg/mL.

The specific ester formulation was PURPOSELY changed to a BETTER formula which is shown in the description on our website (there were complaints regarding PIP and half life times etc about the older formulation) -- instead of 4 esters (some of which are not as desirable) it is simply the long and short ester that are most popular.

Because the old labels had been used until new ones were made (this was announced), the product was purposely sold at a discount (again, this has all been talked about already in great detail).

Here is the testing result:
They were testing for all 4 esters from the old formulation.
But the vial contains the NEW formulation shown above.

NOTE: the new formulation is listed on our website in the product description and this HPLC result verifies Pharmacom once again did a very good job (very impressive for a mix).

I would go do all the searching and post links/quotes etc to show you everything about it to help you even further...

But I do not like your tone at all here -- you need to calm down -- you sound accusatory/negative and clearly did not even look into details about this topic before snapping (I assume toward me since you quoted me), so I already gave you more than enough time and respect by even replying.

No hard feelings, I have no grudge or problem with you moving forward man -- but if you really want communications and help with something from me, then just talk to me with the same respect and maturity you would like to receive; and, please do not act dramatic and/or accusatory without even doing your research or talking calmly first.

Why is it so much cheaper then the other ester ?

Is it caused Pip?

// Will give my Cycle Feedback with your products soon. (amazing Products!)

 

[RThoads]

Why is it so much cheaper then the other ester ?

Is it caused Pip?

// Will give my Cycle Feedback with your products soon. (amazing Products!)

no sir, no complaints about PIP at all with the new (current) formulation.
I have not personally used it, but the HPLC testing AnabolicLab did show it is a good product. It is a blend of short and long ester Nandrolone.

The discount is because the source had thousands of labels from the old formula -- still a 300mg/mL short/long ester blend -- which listed 4 ester BUT the new current formulation is tow esters; because of this there was confusion and some customers (as you can see) were upset.
So as a compromise/compensation and show of good faith the source discounted the old label vials (it would cost the source to print all new labels anyway, so may as well be kind and pass savings to the customers since there would be a cost either way).

So it is actually a very good chance to get a great price on a verified (3rd party tested) high quality product because of an issue with the old label -- no problems at all with the current product

 

[Pharmacom Support]

When I type in my confirmation code it says fake on one of my vials. When I change what is clearly the number one to a lowercase L it says real. My other products are on point and you guys have been amazing to me thus far so its not that I don't trust you. Just giving you a heads up on some confusion that could come up regarding things like this. Do y'all write different outside America? Lol.
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Hi, we use complex codes, to avoid fakes.

 

[RThoads]

As myself and some others have now mentioned, the NOLT300 HPLC result is an OLD topic that has been completely discussed in great details and there are no problems at all with the product.

Here to be clear and put this already beaten old topic to rest, I will post a screen shot of the NOLT300 product on our website and the 3rd party HPLC result:

As you can see, the HPLC analysis confirms the product is very accurately dosaged to the new formulation (as show on the website) and yield a blend of short and long ester nandrolone which adds up to ~293 mg/ml in the anaylsis result (label claim is 300 mg/mL).
Note: it is a mix and each compound in the mix are also very accurately dosed according to the testing result.
Clearly another excellent product from Pharmacom

 

[Achilles26]

For anyone asking about ETA from the Euro store to the US, my order was placed on 2/27 and just arrived today. Only issue was that the bonus item was missed (already PM’d PCom Helper). This is probably my 6th order but first from the EU store.

Check out the goods below

 

[RThoads]

For anyone asking about ETA from the Euro store to the US, my order was placed on 2/27 and just arrived today. Only issue was that the bonus item was missed (already PM’d PCom Helper). This is probably my 6th order but first from the EU store.

Check out the goods below

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Nice TD! congrats and enjoy!

Regarding any missing item, consider using the "Contact Us" form on the website (link in "code" box below) for the most efficient communication about specific orders and related topics.
I highly recommend you use the "contact us" and they will take care of everything for you.

 https://int.basicstero.ws/index/contact

In my opinion, it is much more direct and faster communication than waiting for a board rep to check PMs etc. and then try to relay your info to customer service. Using the "contact us" form will get you in direct contact with someone than can look into your specific order and resolve any issue

Also note:
Be sure to check your email spam folder after contacting customer service because in the past many people complain they did not get a reply when in fact their email service filtered it to spam.

 

[brilliance06]

Please, do not post pics of stealth methods (labeling or packaging) in public.
This is because it may jeopardize the success for the source and other customers.
We greatly appreciate excitement about the products and TD pics, but just omit any visible pics of stealth shipping methods (or black out the stealth items).
Thanks

Any deals/discounts for those that post blood work?

 

[RThoads]

Any deals/discounts for those that post blood work?

No, not that I know of.

Also, keep in mind in general bloodwork does not show much in terms of assessing product quality.
Bloodwork is VERY important to the user for his or her own health monitoring and to dial in ancillaries etc.

But as for being used to analyze a drug, it is nearly useless; this is because each of us metabolize drugs so differently -- the same dosage can yield drastically different values between one person to another.
Even the same individual, at different moments in time, will have greatly varied responses to a given drug (or even food).
For example, we all see one guy can take 600 mg of test-e and not even need an AI, while another may have E2 skyrocket on simply TRT dosages; likewise, one may get a total T of 3000 and one maybe get 1400 from the same dosage etc.

Even perceived effects vary based upon your androgen receptor density which again is dynamic and can change within the individual let alone from one person to another.
(an interesting side note, there are things you can do to increase androgen receptor density and thus get more positive desired effects out of the same given dosage).

With all that said, the most obvious reason bloodwork in useless in term of verifying product quality is because it can NOT show you actual compounds present nor the actual concentrations.
Bloodwork can not show you impurities etc.
It is simply inconclusive and varies so greatly that is has no value and an analytic method.

HPLC, GC, and MS are the way to determine product quality.

But , let me be clear, everyone should be getting their pre-, mid/intra-, and post cycle bloodwork to asses their responses and make necessary adjustments as a responsible and health conscious user.
While I am on a speech about health, let me add that blood pressure should be monitored daily and be taken very seriously so that the user can enjoy a long full life with the positive benefits of AAS.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Thank you !


Nice thank you for taking you time! Im also a bit concerned for tren cough, and I guess more pinning=bigger chance for it to appear?


Okay thx, you are the first one to recommend these esters, why you prefer those? I also though of H due to less injection to prevent the cough as much as possible

A have more side effects, I think that all recommends about short esters, like they have less side effects and you can solve them faster, this is all misconception

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Hello @pharmacomhelper

How long does it takes and order to arrive from the new warehouse to an European country?

not so long couple of days

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

All this over a label? Someone's on the Tren train.

Did you buy Nolt just for the Prop and Laurate esters? If so, why? As long as the mg per ml of the other esters matches up, there's literally no difference besides an extended (and not by much) half-life.

tren train!?