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[PHL Official]

Did Frank do anything to rectify the situation with the "bunk" dbol?

I would be glas to do something. And i offered to send it to Simec, but it did not happen... in fact really only 2 cases here about bunk dbol have been reported. If i am not mistaken this dbol was not just like dbol + test p, this was a potent stack with other potent drugs like tren. I would not donde if dbol action would be not so noticable in stack with other potent drugs. Dbol will be tested and not once. This is only a matter of time and resources.

I dont believe it is possible for members to send samples in to this program because i believe Millard has a set plan and group of anonymous buyers that take care of purchases. But if you want to help out with this very important program ( and you are able) you can make a donation to the program. I dont have the link but if you go to the anabolic lab testing thread you will be able to find a link there.
Hope you can help out cause the program can use all the support it can get. [emoji4]

Generally everyone can send samples directly to Simec. The only thing is that separate orders will be always more expensive. 280 Euro for one sample. Also there are no problems at all with sending samples to simec from within USA. They reach the lab succesfylly. Only no objection certificates from Simec site shall be enclosed into envelopes.

@Pharmacom Labs hey Im considering pulling the trigger on 200iu of your hgh but I have a few questions and concerns after all shit is pricey everywhere. 1 does it need to be refrigerated all the time? If so how does it get sent int and stay good? I'm assuming it's not powder and bac water like hcg. Second if I'm adding it to a cycle and if ran it 2iu a day for 100 days with my cycle would it even be noticable or would it be more effect to run say 4iu a day for 50 days along with cycle?

to be honest I never used GH. I just find it not neccesary or me personally. But yes it shall be kept always if fridge. Even powder. We tested it after 3 weeks under room temperature and results were still high, but could be higher probably. we send it as powder and water separately. but no water. just sterile water. it This is exactly what shall be used with HGH. I will ask why, but bac water is not the best option.
Dosage is weight dependent. But 2IU is a bit to low. Our customers said they perfectly felt 4IU. There are some blood work results on Outlaw and ASF. On the other hand 50 days is not enough. HGH shall be taken 3-4 month at least. It acts not fast and it does not provide you any overmass, it just more in quality. Fat burning and lean muscles.
I personally think it is not neccesary to use it for most of amateur athletes, for whom bodybuilding is just a hobby.

 

[austrianoak]

Hey Frank! Just wondering when the Test E 250 amps and more importantly the Primo E 200 will be available for the EU store? Hope the Primo 200 will be lab-tested, would be brilliant to finally have a 200mg/ml primo. If someone can make it happen then it's Pharmacom haha

 

[kaizoku]

I think that it being off by 10% is pretty significant. Is it enough to keep me from buying? Probably not. I just think something should be done about it. And after I posted the reply I noticed that Frank had done something about it in a previous post by extending the existing promo for international purchases through September. Which is cool in my book. So something has been done about it.

I also agree about the "bunk" dbol claims. This is why it should be tested. As Mr. B66 pointed out, this is in the works.....hopefully.

And I wasn't making any claims about anything so knock it off with the "people like you" shit. It doesn't help anything.

Except it doesn't do anything for those of us who have already ordered and received the 90% dosed test p...

 

[crossfitisgay]

Ya I'm out 10% but they are cool maybe they make it right with us who have the prop

 

[*Hawk]

I'm not one to side with a ugl but freebies on top of a really good promo deal vs a couple slightly under dosed and slightly overdosed products doesn't seem all that bad to me.

As far as I can tell, basicstereo is doing and has provided what no other open source ugl has.

Just my $0.02

 

[Sampei]

Except it doesn't do anything for those of us who have already ordered and received the 90% dosed test p...

Plus doesn't change anything from who has bought it from the domestic and will keep buying from the domestic, because only the international shop has probably the new batches so the domestic are still selling the underdosed one.

I'm not expecting a promo like the international one on the domestic website but at least a partial refund and a discounted price of deca/test p should be given until the new batches are in.

 

[PHL Official]

Ya I'm out 10% but they are cool maybe they make it right with us who have the prop

Plus doesn't change anything from who has bought it from the domestic and will keep buying from the domestic, because only the international shop has probably the new batches so the domestic are still selling the underdosed one.

I'm not expecting a promo like the international one on the domestic website but at least a partial refund and a discounted price of deca/test p should be given until the new batches are in.

Sampei, you have 15% off in our EU store and you sound still not very satisfied...
Guys, we do what we can. With other labs you don`t know at all what you order and how good their quality is. I mean not only concentration but in general. Don`t forget about it please. We have purest raws. Our test P showed perfect purity. It means something... From another lab you could have even overdosed test p, which many labs do to make their products look potent, but you will never now how pure their raws are and what you pin inside together with those 100 mg of test p...
Also I remember that our oils have more than 10 ml in fact!You get 10,5-11 ml in each vial. It also compensates a slight underdosage.

 

[Allergy man]

Update on test c

New bloodwork came back today. Pin was at 2.5 days from last pin (12 hours early compared to past dosing) blood drawn almost exactly 24 hours later. Total test was up @ 1579 but that is on ~585mg/week plus whatever variance pinning 12 hours early creates.

Will be sending an unopened vial to simec this week as I was waiting for this bloodwork to come back before I sent it out.

 

[PHL Official]

Update on test c

New bloodwork came back today. Pin was at 2.5 days from last pin (12 hours early compared to past dosing) blood drawn almost exactly 24 hours later. Total test was up @ 1579 but that is on ~585mg/week plus whatever variance pinning 12 hours early creates.

Will be sending an unopened vial to simec this week as I was waiting for this bloodwork to come back before I sent it out.

hm... i am concerned about it. Let`s test it in Simec. Don`t forget to put no objection certificates from Simec site into envelope!

 

[RThoads]

Update on test c

New bloodwork came back today. Pin was at 2.5 days from last pin (12 hours early compared to past dosing) blood drawn almost exactly 24 hours later. Total test was up @ 1579 but that is on ~585mg/week plus whatever variance pinning 12 hours early creates.

Will be sending an unopened vial to simec this week as I was waiting for this bloodwork to come back before I sent it out.

thanks for info -- very appreciated!
please send it in to simec if you can. This is a product that I for one (and likely many others) will be using for long term TRT/cruise. Very import to know what dosage to use.

thanks again for your info and help to the community.

 

[PHL Official]

By the way guys, not that i am trying to justify... well, actually I am. But I have just read one of newest Millard`s posts with document officially issued by FDA. It is about potency and allowable dosages of pharmaceutical products.
Here is it
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/06/briefing/2006-4228B1-04-FDA-PotencyStabilityredacted.pdf
According to it +-10% deviation is allowable:
A product must meet its regulatory standards over its entire shelf life. Most USP monographs provide that drugs must meet a 90-110% potency specification.
So in fact we are within USP regulations...
This is in no way justification for going on with producing underdosed vials. I absolutely admit that 10% underdosage is very undesired for us and we will do our best to improve it! Jst 100% accuracy is not possible, you also shall understand this.

 

[Roykcal]

Has anyone had experience with basicstero? Good, bad, ok? Just need some recommendations...recently went through another ugl and everything seemed ok but was shorted on all my vials. Not looking to make the same mistake. Thanks

 

[jaymaximus]

Has anyone had experience with basicstero? Good, bad, ok? Just need some recommendations...recently went through another ugl and everything seemed ok but was shorted on all my vials. Not looking to make the same mistake. Thanks

This thread is 220 pages of "experience". You gotta get to reading...

 

[Mr.B66]

Has anyone had experience with basicstero? Good, bad, ok? Just need some recommendations...recently went through another ugl and everything seemed ok but was shorted on all my vials. Not looking to make the same mistake. Thanks

Really!!!! What you didnt read any previous pages??
Its all there, good luck!

 

[Mr.B66]

Hard to believe some guys are wanting freebies for a 10% under label dose. Especially if you got the buy 300$ get 200$ free deal. Ive been using the testP for about a month now getting ready for pct and im pretty happy with the quality. Course mine might be dosed at 100mg per ml who knows, so might yours!

 

[Ready4Juice]

Hard to believe some guys are wanting freebies for a 10% under label dose. Especially if you got the buy 300$ get 200$ free deal. Ive been using the testP for about a month now getting ready for pct and im pretty happy with the quality. Course mine might be dosed at 100mg per ml who knows, so might yours!

Well said @Mr.B66 i agree 100%

 

[Bone Gristle]

Has anyone had experience with basicstero? Good, bad, ok? Just need some recommendations...recently went through another ugl and everything seemed ok but was shorted on all my vials. Not looking to make the same mistake. Thanks

From the couple of dozen or so pages I've read things seem on the up and up. May pull the trigger on this one but I'm still doing my research. I'm not getting burned by another online source...

But I have to say, the info from Anabolic Lab has been invaluable. Definitely going to throw a donation their way.

 

[crossfitisgay]

The whole extra month of that promo makes me really not care about the miniscule % difference in dosing. Generous extension

 

[Bone Gristle]

The whole extra month of that promo makes me really not care about the miniscule % difference in dosing. Generous extension

Yeah! 200 worth of free shit sounds golden.

 

[Sampei]

Sampei, you have 15% off in our EU store and you sound still not very satisfied...
Guys, we do what we can. With other labs you don`t know at all what you order and how good their quality is. I mean not only concentration but in general. Don`t forget about it please. We have purest raws. Our test P showed perfect purity. It means something... From another lab you could have even overdosed test p, which many labs do to make their products look potent, but you will never now how pure their raws are and what you pin inside together with those 100 mg of test p...
Also I remember that our oils have more than 10 ml in fact!You get 10,5-11 ml in each vial. It also compensates a slight underdosage.

No my friend I'm the most satisfied costumer, but I don't speak for myself only, even if I'm happy I try to think for my other meso brothers

You did discount the tren A for a while because he was slight underdosed and you did it in all the stores. I was suggesting something like that.
Just until the new batches are in. If it's not possible never mind.

By the way for anyone asking the 15% discount was because I was probably the first to order from basicstero eu when they opened.