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I think the real problem is, Pharmacom sells to a lot of new people.. A lot of new people, people that think steriods are a magic pill.. They look at the biggest guy in the gym and expect to look like him after one cycle. People that never gotten bloods and don't understand when their e2 is high or low and makes them crash and feel like shit, people that don't understand orals effect your liver if you don't run support, people that shouldn't be running gear period then get mad when they don't see magic happening... Honestly that's the real truth here... Pharmacom can't do the work for you they can just provide the tools. They also will never be able to make everyone happy because of this..
you're somewhat right, there are a lot of rookies buying gear, and they aren't exactly sure what to expect. A lot of people judge their gear by looking at the scale. They say they put on 20lbs from their cycle, when really who knows how much of it was fat. If they're eating 5,000 calories a day (twice their TDEE) then yeah they're going to be putting on 20 lbs over 3 months whether or not they are using anabolics. They'd put on 15 lbs of fat and 5lbs of muscle and credit it to what they thought was some human grade DBOL DECA and Test.
Also people here seem to defend some pretty bad lab work
Pharmacom Test-E @200 (Frank)
People are telling him that 700ng is okay for pinning 200mg/wk. excuses are made by saying that 6 days are too long for bloods after a pin. Yeah, for Propionate or Acetate it is. People here were trying to feed that bullshit to me with my bloods because I waited a whole 3.5 days after my last pin of enanthate to draw bloods and got 1000ng doing 600mg/wk. Understanding half-lives doesn't take a genius.
And steroids are pretty magical. You and everyone else who uses them wouldn't bother with them if they weren't. If you or others don't notice yourself turning into a bronze god during a cycle and you are onto of your training and diet then something is wrong with your gear.

I got you to admit that you sell fake gear. Thats good enough for me.

You are a fucking idiot.

Again for those who are reading this thread. Stayinalive is a moron. Trying to scam PC for free gear.
He claims it is bunk demanding free replacement for his "feeling" .
He won't get bloods, he has nothing for testing and can't even understand PC's testing protocol for claims.
He has no backup and claims he doesn't want reship, but that's all he wanted. He gets exposed for being a scammed demanding replacement so now he has to backtrack on his words saying he doesn't.

Ignore this retard plain and simple.
Both of you guys are twisting each others words around and are claiming things that weren't said. You both lose. Both of you are immature and have no credibility. and that goes for many other posters in these last 5-10 pages. As far as bloods go... they don't mean anything to pharmacom, they won't use it as legitimate information. they only take tests from Simec, which is useless unless if you had a huge order and have a vial to spare along with an extra $300 for testing. Another option would to send an open vial to Analyzer, but Pharmacom would most likely treat that the same way they view other people's lab work.
Anyways you should get bloodwork for yourself just to peace your mind, giving yourself a rough idea of what your putting into your body.

Also Pharmacom is never going to admit that they put out fake gear. It would be like Bill Clinton admitting while in office that he shoved his dick in Monica Lewinsky's mouth. The only way to prove the illegitimacy of Pharmacom is to have some random rich guy place an order and send it to Simec without the knowledge of Pharmacom.
 
I had a package that I ordered, from domestic site. They were out stock even though website didn't show they were. PC allowed me to get another more expensive item at no additional cost. Great service. I also received pharma mix 6 and will comment on pip. I know some people earlier in this thread were curious about pip with some of the higher concentrations.
 
Was still on the fence about ordering Dbol from basicstero, but decided there wasn't much evidence from either side to take their word on it. Decided to just place an order based on the reputation and I guess we will see what happens. This will be my first time taking dbol. This is my first post but I have been looking through this thread for the past week or so to make my decision and am remaining neutral until I get to test the product out for my self. Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam. Just placed the order today (domestic) so it should be here fairly soon. I plan on keeping a log to track my strength (don't care about aesthetics), should be fun. I'll let you all know my experience of how it went in a couple weeks (or I'll probably just make a log because it seems that once you're stuck in this debate you have no choice but to continue for days on end). Hopefully everything gets cleared up. Peace.
 
Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam.


I would say we need a separate sticky on what not to do with your first post (or any posts within several months of joining or several hundred posts TBH) but no one would fucking read it anyway.

You are at least the 12th new guy in the last 7 days to have their first post be either buying from a UGL, praising a UGL, or panning a UGL.


Do they grow you guys by the vatload somewhere?
 
Nothing you just said is even remotely close to what has been going on... Where do you make this shi
you're somewhat right, there are a lot of rookies buying gear, and they aren't exactly sure what to expect. A lot of people judge their gear by looking at the scale. They say they put on 20lbs from their cycle, when really who knows how much of it was fat. If they're eating 5,000 calories a day (twice their TDEE) then yeah they're going to be putting on 20 lbs over 3 months whether or not they are using anabolics. They'd put on 15 lbs of fat and 5lbs of muscle and credit it to what they thought was some human grade DBOL DECA and Test.
Also people here seem to defend some pretty bad lab work
Pharmacom Test-E @200 (Frank)
People are telling him that 700ng is okay for pinning 200mg/wk. excuses are made by saying that 6 days are too long for bloods after a pin. Yeah, for Propionate or Acetate it is. People here were trying to feed that bullshit to me with my bloods because I waited a whole 3.5 days after my last pin of enanthate to draw bloods and got 1000ng doing 600mg/wk. Understanding half-lives doesn't take a genius.
And steroids are pretty magical. You and everyone else who uses them wouldn't bother with them if they weren't. If you or others don't notice yourself turning into a bronze god during a cycle and you are onto of your training and diet then something is wrong with your gear.




Both of you guys are twisting each others words around and are claiming things that weren't said. You both lose. Both of you are immature and have no credibility. and that goes for many other posters in these last 5-10 pages. As far as bloods go... they don't mean anything to pharmacom, they won't use it as legitimate information. they only take tests from Simec, which is useless unless if you had a huge order and have a vial to spare along with an extra $300 for testing. Another option would to send an open vial to Analyzer, but Pharmacom would most likely treat that the same way they view other people's lab work.
Anyways you should get bloodwork for yourself just to peace your mind, giving yourself a rough idea of what your putting into your body.

Also Pharmacom is never going to admit that they put out fake gear. It would be like Bill Clinton admitting while in office that he shoved his dick in Monica Lewinsky's mouth. The only way to prove the illegitimacy of Pharmacom is to have some random rich guy place an order and send it to Simec without the knowledge of Pharmacom.
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Was still on the fence about ordering Dbol from basicstero, but decided there wasn't much evidence from either side to take their word on it. Decided to just place an order based on the reputation and I guess we will see what happens. This will be my first time taking dbol. This is my first post but I have been looking through this thread for the past week or so to make my decision and am remaining neutral until I get to test the product out for my self. Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam. Just placed the order today (domestic) so it should be here fairly soon. I plan on keeping a log to track my strength (don't care about aesthetics), should be fun. I'll let you all know my experience of how it went in a couple weeks (or I'll probably just make a log because it seems that once you're stuck in this debate you have no choice but to continue for days on end). Hopefully everything gets cleared up. Peace.
Do you plan on just taking dbol? Any test?
 
Do you plan on just taking dbol only cycle? Any testosterone ?


Was still on the fence about ordering Dbol from basicstero, but decided there wasn't much evidence from either side to take their word on it. Decided to just place an order based on the reputation and I guess we will see what happens. This will be my first time taking dbol. This is my first post but I have been looking through this thread for the past week or so to make my decision and am remaining neutral until I get to test the product out for my self. Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam. Just placed the order today (domestic) so it should be here fairly soon. I plan on keeping a log to track my strength (don't care about aesthetics), should be fun. I'll let you all know my experience of how it went in a couple weeks (or I'll probably just make a log because it seems that once you're stuck in this debate you have no choice but to continue for days on end). Hopefully everything gets cleared up. Peace.
 
I started from the beginning of this thread and hopped through it to get an idea of what's going on (in the beginning people were debating dbol which may be where I got confused). But yes, I have 500mg/ml test Enanthate among other things (AI, pct, etc)
 
I would say we need a separate sticky on what not to do with your first post (or any posts within several months of joining or several hundred posts TBH) but no one would fucking read it anyway.

You are at least the 12th new guy in the last 7 days to have their first post be either buying from a UGL, praising a UGL, or panning a UGL.


Do they grow you guys by the vatload somewhere?


Yeah I know and can see why I'd get lumped in. Nothing I can do about that. Good day.
 
Was still on the fence about ordering Dbol from basicstero, but decided there wasn't much evidence from either side to take their word on it. Decided to just place an order based on the reputation and I guess we will see what happens. This will be my first time taking dbol. This is my first post but I have been looking through this thread for the past week or so to make my decision and am remaining neutral until I get to test the product out for my self. Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam. Just placed the order today (domestic) so it should be here fairly soon. I plan on keeping a log to track my strength (don't care about aesthetics), should be fun. I'll let you all know my experience of how it went in a couple weeks (or I'll probably just make a log because it seems that once you're stuck in this debate you have no choice but to continue for days on end). Hopefully everything gets cleared up. Peace.
What else are u running with it?
How much dbol/day?
 
What else are u running with it?
How much dbol/day?

Just with the test for the cycle. Read many threads showing success and failure with various dosages, so I plan on starting at 20mg ED to see how I feel then up it as need. I've read that 50mg is the max anyone should go.

EDIT: Just in case you wanted to know, using letro at 0.25mg EOD
 
Just with the test for the cycle. Read many threads showing success and failure with various dosages, so I plan on starting at 20mg ED to see how I feel then up it as need. I've read that 50mg is the max anyone should go.

EDIT: Just in case you wanted to know, using letro at 0.25mg EOD
I would start it at 30mg for about 10 days. Then see how u are responding.
Normally you will begin to see more fluid retention and experience increased endurance by then.
Watch your bp. Good Dbol will make mine spike.
Max daily should be about 50mg in order to be kind to your liver.
I take it all pre workout while others split there dosing. That kind of an individual thing.
Let us know what u think of it.
 
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As you might know, bitcoin has not its best time nowadays.

Due to the possible ongoing bitcoin split we temporarily stop accepting bitcoin payments stating from 28th of July until the situation with bitcoin is cleared!

Please do not send your bitcoins after 28th of July. We will not accept them, because those payments (even if confirmed) can just disappear from the wallet due to the coming bitcoin protocol update. Most of exchanges will probably also stop bitcoin exchange operations for the period from 29th of July until additional notification from the bitcoin devs team. You can read more details here Potential network disruption
So, starting from 28th of July you will not be able to chose bitcoin as payment option in our store. All orders placed before 28th should be paid on 28th of July latest (if you chose bitcoin as payment option). This does not touch customers who chose Western Union and MoneyGram as payment option.
For customers of our international warehouse:
For the period starting from 28th of July we will extend our promotion and you will be able to take advantage of it if you chose Western Union or Moneygram as payment way.

CAUTION: please do not send WU and MG transfers online using your bank card. Such transfers are blocked in many cases and we just can not pick them up . So, there is a big chance you will need to resend it through an agent paying by cash.

Here are the promotion details just in case:
The promo will be running till 1st of September!

Just place an order and get freebies on your choice at one of the ordering steps worth up to 200$ in value:

for orders over 90$ - 35$ bonus

for orders over 200$ - 90$ bonus

for orders over 300$ - 200$ bonus

Freebies are sent together with your order! We split bigger orders into smaller packages for free. Signature is not required. Discreet shipping is available. In case of a seizure we reship your order, however without free bonus items.
 
Nothing you just said is even remotely close to what has been going on... Where do you make this shi

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Do you plan on just taking dbol? Any test?
A few other posters understood what I was saying and "liked" my post. So let me explain; I get this shiz from reading people's logs and looking at their avatar pics not on just this forum but all forums. People aren't getting the results they should be getting. Don't worry I'm not solely blaming your pharmacom, many other labs underdose their gear and many people underestimate their diet and training.
 
Hello all,
i was a bit busy lately. Sorry for not responded PMs. Please use our contacts page at basicstero.ws, messages are replied within 24- longest 48 hours.
I will do my best to be more often here.

I have some important info for all customers.
As you might know, bitcoin has not its best time nowadays.

Due to the possible ongoing bitcoin split we temporarily stop accepting bitcoin payments stating from 28th of July until the situation with bitcoin is cleared!

Please do not send your bitcoins after 28th of July. We will not accept them, because those payments (even if confirmed) can just disappear from the wallet due to the coming bitcoin protocol update. Most of exchanges will probably also stop bitcoin exchange operations for the period from 29th of July until additional notification from the bitcoin devs team. You can read more details here Potential network disruption
So, starting from 28th of July you will not be able to chose bitcoin as payment option in our store. All orders placed before 28th should be paid on 28th of July latest (if you chose bitcoin as payment option). This does not touch customers who chose Western Union and MoneyGram as payment option.
For customers of our international warehouse:
For the period starting from 28th of July we will extend our promotion and you will be able to take advantage of it if you chose Western Union or Moneygram as payment way.

CAUTION: please do not send WU and MG transfers online using your bank card. Such transfers are blocked in many cases and we just can not pick them up . So, there is a big chance you will need to resend it through an agent paying by cash.

Here are the promotion details just in case:
The promo will be running till 1st of September!

Just place an order and get freebies on your choice at one of the ordering steps worth up to 200$ in value:

for orders over 90$ - 35$ bonus

for orders over 200$ - 90$ bonus

for orders over 300$ - 200$ bonus

Freebies are sent together with your order! We split bigger orders into smaller packages for free. Signature is not required. Discreet shipping is available. In case of a seizure we reship your order, however without free bonus items.
My order total was over $200 and I didn't receive my freebies.
 
A few other posters understood what I was saying and "liked" my post. So let me explain; I get this shiz from reading people's logs and looking at their avatar pics not on just this forum but all forums. People aren't getting the results they should be getting. Don't worry I'm not solely blaming your pharmacom, many other labs underdose their gear and many people underestimate their diet and training.

The first part was a mistake.. Old post that got posted with the bottom part... Why I posted the bottom part again sorry bro
 
Was still on the fence about ordering Dbol from basicstero, but decided there wasn't much evidence from either side to take their word on it. Decided to just place an order based on the reputation and I guess we will see what happens. This will be my first time taking dbol. This is my first post but I have been looking through this thread for the past week or so to make my decision and am remaining neutral until I get to test the product out for my self. Hopefully that keeps me from being called a shill or a scam. Just placed the order today (domestic) so it should be here fairly soon. I plan on keeping a log to track my strength (don't care about aesthetics), should be fun. I'll let you all know my experience of how it went in a couple weeks (or I'll probably just make a log because it seems that once you're stuck in this debate you have no choice but to continue for days on end). Hopefully everything gets cleared up. Peace.
Take this with a grain of salt, but I've ran their dbol 3x. About to run it a 4th time if customs decides to give me my package. All have been good and each cycle was consistent with the last. I ran it at 40mg and felt that was plenty.
 
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