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About 1-1.5 years ago, I had a huge fiasco with this company. You can go back and read if you'd like to know the story.

Fast forward, I had vials that came from various shipments which included mostly the wrong vials but finally got enough Test to run a cycle. After being paranoid with the vials, I decided to run a Test/EQ cycle.

500mg/Test Cyp/week
600mg/EQ/Week
12.5mg aromasin on injection days

The bloods were drawn ~48 hours after the last pin.
I started this cycle on December 19th and had blood drawn 2/23. So, about 9 weeks into my 16 week cycle. I know, about a week past due.

Overall, I felt what you'd expect on the basic cycle I am on. But I was expecting veins popping out from the EQ, nothing really. I did get an appetite increase but that was about it.

I was mostly worried about EQ because I heard of hemoglobin and hematocrit creeping high and needing blood donations.

The test numbers were lower than I was expecting. I ran another labs stuff and had numbers in the 5k range on the same type of test, so to see these numbers was a bit disappointing.

Let me know if the photos didn't work. I haven't been on this site in a long time and seems like the I'm a tard and can't get the photos to upload.

Photos didn’t work bro. Thanks for posting tho

 

[BluntObject]

Euro order landed. 18 days. You guys forgot my promo item. Took video of myself opening package so I'd be happy to prove it. With that said you guys always get back to me... Eventually, and make it right so no worries. Also ordered from china. 2 months because of seizure but stealth came through.

Good to hear you got your pack at least. I’m on day 15 of first euro order and tracking says it’s still in pre-shipment so who knows wtf is going on...

 

[WifeBeater]

Hi, it takes a few weeks or a little longer.

So your saying it could take over a month to get the tracking info, let along the package?

 

[brilliance06]

Photos didn’t work bro. Thanks for posting tho

Should be working now.Best of luck with your TD. It took over 6 months to get a package. Albeit the wrong stuff...

Re-posting on this page.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Hi guys, considering buying some pharmacom tren, but never ran tren before, could some1 suggest me which ester they prefer - also how much tren/test should i do for first time using tren?

Good day Sir, for first time I recommend you to try H ester something around 200-250 mg weekly or E ester with the same dosages! This is will be enough for you to understated what this beast are

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

So your saying it could take over a month to get the tracking info, let along the package?

Send me your order number I will try to speed it up

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Should be working now.Best of luck with your TD. It took over 6 months to get a package. Albeit the wrong stuff...

Sorry Sir for this situation, I remember. Anyway you got many yummys

 

[BluntObject]

Send me your order number I will try to speed it up

You have a PM brother

 

[Zarioh]

I’d go with EOD unless you like being a human pun cushion. Blood levels will remain stable as the acetate ester chain takes about a day to metabolize typically

Thank you !

Here are graphs of blood levels.

first, 100mg EOD:

Vs, 50mg ED:

As you can see, the ED yield much more stable level -- much less of a spike and not as low of lows in between.
The EOD spike up more than 30% higher at peaks and nearly 50% lower and the lowest levels between pins. This is less idea because those are some drastic hormonal swings.

I have tried EOD and got much worse night sweats and some mood issues etc, but with more stable levels I do not have any noticeable side effects at this moderate dosage.

As for testosterone dosage to pair with tren, this is a topic of great interest and debate. It is not yet conclusively resolved and agreed upon. Read up on this recent article series (link in "code" box below) to get a start at understanding tren better and then do a lot more continued research so you may come to your own informed opinion (and I urge you to continue to let that opinion evolve as more info becomes available to you).

 https://thinksteroids.com/articles/science-of-trenbolone-part-01/

But with that said, I can make a very overly generalized theory :
IF "cutting"/"hardening" or recomping , run low test and moderate to high tren.
If "gains"/"bulking" , run higher test and moderate to low tren.

Both pin scheduling and dosage ratios , like with most everything else, are different for everyone and highly subject to individual experience, reactions, and preference ; therefore, my advice is just a starting point and ultimately it will just take some time and trial/error to dial in what works best for you and your goals.

There really is no one size fits all -- but I hope some of these ideas give you a good start.

Nice thank you for taking you time! Im also a bit concerned for tren cough, and I guess more pinning=bigger chance for it to appear?

Good day Sir, for first time I recommend you to try H ester something around 200-250 mg weekly or E ester with the same dosages! This is will be enough for you to understated what this beast are

Okay thx, you are the first one to recommend these esters, why you prefer those? I also though of H due to less injection to prevent the cough as much as possible

 

[WifeBeater]

Send me your order number I will try to speed it up

Not been long enough for that, but I was looking for general info. I've been spoiled to domestic t/a but I've progressed passed 1-2 bottles a cycle and had to switch to int. Prices. I know it's unpredictable tho.

 

[Pharmacom Support]

Actual form of athlete team Pharmacom Labs.

2017 World Championship WRPF 1st place (Powerlifting).
2016 World Championship WRPF 1 place (Powerlifting).
2016 Russian Cup GPA / IPO 1st place (Powerlifting).

 

[koast123]

Hello @pharmacomhelper

How long does it takes and order to arrive from the new warehouse to an European country?

 

[Pharmacom Support]

Euro order landed. 18 days. You guys forgot my promo item. Took video of myself opening package so I'd be happy to prove it. With that said you guys always get back to me... Eventually, and make it right so no worries. Also ordered from china. 2 months because of seizure but stealth came through.

Thank you for your feedback, we hope you are happy..)))

If you need help, write to me, I will do my best to help.

 

[Pharmacom Support]

About 1-1.5 years ago, I had a huge fiasco with this company. You can go back and read if you'd like to know the story.

Fast forward, I had vials that came from various shipments which included mostly the wrong vials but finally got enough Test to run a cycle. After being paranoid with the vials, I decided to run a Test/EQ cycle.

500mg/Test Cyp/week
600mg/EQ/Week
12.5mg aromasin on injection days

The bloods were drawn ~48 hours after the last pin.
I started this cycle on December 19th and had blood drawn 2/23. So, about 9 weeks into my 16 week cycle. I know, about a week past due.

Overall, I felt what you'd expect on the basic cycle I am on. But I was expecting veins popping out from the EQ, nothing really. I did get an appetite increase but that was about it.

I was mostly worried about EQ because I heard of hemoglobin and hematocrit creeping high and needing blood donations.

The test numbers were lower than I was expecting. I ran another labs stuff and had numbers in the 5k range on the same type of test, so to see these numbers was a bit disappointing.

Let me know if the photos didn't work. I haven't been on this site in a long time and seems like the I'm a tard and can't get the photos to upload.
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Hi, if you have questions about cycle, pct, blood work interpretation and so on, our specialist will help you: dr.pharmacom@protonmail.com

 

[Pharmacom Support]

So your saying it could take over a month to get the tracking info, let along the package?

If you need help with your order, write to me, I will do my best to help.

 

[Pharmacom Support]

Hello @pharmacomhelper

How long does it takes and order to arrive from the new warehouse to an European country?

Hi, delivery takes a few weeks or a little longer.

 

[RThoads]

Please, do not post pics of stealth methods (labeling or packaging) in public.
This is because it may jeopardize the success for the source and other customers.
We greatly appreciate excitement about the products and TD pics, but just omit any visible pics of stealth shipping methods (or black out the stealth items).
Thanks

 

[WifeBeater]

Please, do not post pics of stealth methods (labeling or packaging) in public.
This is because it may jeopardize the success for the source and other customers.
We greatly appreciate excitement about the products and TD pics, but just omit any visible pics of stealth shipping methods (or black out the stealth items).
Thanks

Can you please explain your fake ass labeling of PHARMANOLT 300? You know, the one where you blend "4 esters" of nandrolone and sell it way cheaper than the rest? I feel fucking ripped off after buying it all these years thinking it was something it's not. Anabolic lab proves it.

I've bought over 10 bottles of the shit. I'm one in 10 million customers but are you starting to cut corners? I don't give a flying fuck if it does come out to the same mg, label the shit RIGHT. I encourage everyone to check that test. I couldn't believe it but I always wondered why it was cheaper.

 

[RThoads]

@WifeBeater
The AnabolicLab result have been explained (I believe this was months ago) and they show our product is GOOD.

Look at the HPLC results -- it is a blend of short and long ester that sums to 300mg/mL total.

IF we were ripping you off or made a mistake, why/how would we be so precise and careful to hit 300mg/mL so accurately (literally closer than tolerances allowed for even certified human grade pharma products)?

Clearly, no one was trying to rip anyone off -- you get a blend of short and long ester nandrolone which adds up to give 300mg/mL.

The specific ester formulation was PURPOSELY changed to a BETTER formula which is shown in the description on our website (there were complaints regarding PIP and half life times etc about the older formulation) -- instead of 4 esters (some of which are not as desirable) it is simply the long and short ester that are most popular.

Because the old labels had been used until new ones were made (this was announced), the product was purposely sold at a discount (again, this has all been talked about already in great detail).

Here is the testing result:
They were testing for all 4 esters from the old formulation.
But the vial contains the NEW formulation shown above.

NOTE: the new formulation is listed on our website in the product description and this HPLC result verifies Pharmacom once again did a very good job (very impressive for a mix).

I would go do all the searching and post links/quotes etc to show you everything about it to help you even further...

But I do not like your tone at all here -- you need to calm down -- you sound accusatory/negative and clearly did not even look into details about this topic before snapping (I assume toward me since you quoted me), so I already gave you more than enough time and respect by even replying.

No hard feelings, I have no grudge or problem with you moving forward man -- but if you really want communications and help with something from me, then just talk to me with the same respect and maturity you would like to receive; and, please do not act dramatic and/or accusatory without even doing your research or talking calmly first.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Can you please explain your fake ass labeling of PHARMANOLT 300? You know, the one where you blend "4 esters" of nandrolone and sell it way cheaper than the rest? I feel fucking ripped off after buying it all these years thinking it was something it's not. Anabolic lab proves it.

I've bought over 10 bottles of the shit. I'm one in 10 million customers but are you starting to cut corners? I don't give a flying fuck if it does come out to the same mg, label the shit RIGHT. I encourage everyone to check that test. I couldn't believe it but I always wondered why it was cheaper.

All this over a label? Someone's on the Tren train.

Did you buy Nolt just for the Prop and Laurate esters? If so, why? As long as the mg per ml of the other esters matches up, there's literally no difference besides an extended (and not by much) half-life.