Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Test E300 - GC-MS/MS - 2016-01 - performed by ChemTox via AnabolicLab.com

[rpbb]

100mg of additional test!?! Oh the humanity. What a dangerous predicament. I'd say pin away and enjoy, lol. In your case, 600mg instead of 500. RED LINING IT! Most of the UGL out there is underdosed, so I'd prefer this side of the QC coin.

or he could just run karls underdosed gear and not worry about it

 

[xy5jn0]

or he could just run karls underdosed gear and not worry about it

With the undetectable "secret ingredient" added at no extra cost.

 

[G.I. Bro]

With the undetectable "secret ingredient" added at no extra cost.

Secret sauce, lol.

 

[Yeabuddyron]

It's probably some of that pure testo Nutt butter

 

[PHL Official]

@Pharmacom Labs

Aknowledge test result

I was thinking the same thing. The first test was done with HPLC and the results were reported as 306.05 mg/ml. The second was done with GC-MS/MS with results reported as 363 (not 363.00) mg/ml.

There has been plenty of talk on this board over the years concerning the inaccuracy of GC-MS/MS. I doubt the testing was off by 60+ mg/ml, but it would be nice to know what to expect. They tested/screened 4 samples, so were the results 363mg/ml all four times?

AnabolicLab had repeat testing performed on the testosterone enanthate products by Geneza Pharma and Pharmacom Labs:

Geneza Pharma GP Test Enanthat 250

278.50 mg/ml - 1 sample obtained in Apr 2015 with “lot number” GP143H
275.00 mg/ml - 1 sample obtained in Sep 2015 with “lot number” GP143H

Pharmacom Labs PHARMA Test E300

306.05 mg/ml - 1 sample obtained in Apr 2015 with "product number" 604331
363.00 mg/ml - 1 sample obtained in Sep 2015 with "product number" 604331

The obvious question: are comparisons being made within the same lot/batch? Does 604331 represent a lot or batch number? Or is it simply the code that identifies the product itself and includes multiple batch/lots of the same product?

hi guys. sorry for late reply, i was away for a while. i have mentioned in one of my messages on the board that batches on vials are equal to baches of raws batches we use.
we buy raws in huge amounts, hundreds of killograms for once. for this we have very good discounts. and this is the reason why so many vials have the same batch within a long period. in fact it means that this vial contains raws of exactly that batch which we tested and we know that its of good purity. we pay the biggest attention to raws purity. as for quantity yes it can be different, those vials could be produced at different days or even weeks. generally our equipment shall be set as per a particulate model to keep settings equal for a particular drug. but as you understand we do not have a separate production line for each product. we use the same line for vials, we just have different pipelines, some vessels and change them, clean not replacable parts before we start producing a new drug. after this replacing and cleaning settings and equimpent needs to be readjusted every time and when production starts it takes some time to get optimized values as per a scheduled program. this is a simplified explanation. thus of course some deviations are possible especially for first vials during a production cycle. it can not be that absolutely all vials of test e are equal only say 305 mg/ml. no one even certified manufacturer will be able to do this in industrial scale.
at the same time this results of 21% overdosage seems for me too much. of course i do not produce things myself and do not stand at the control pult, but for me it seems like there is some measuring deviation here. we would gladly cover expenses if someone esle send a vial of test e to Simec to get results.