IDK why OP is getting shit on so bad here... dude as a point. Pharma gear in my experience produces significantly less PIP than UGL gear. I too am curious as to why this is. That said I haven't used any oils that aren't my own Rx in over like 5 years. Maybe this has changed since then.
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nightprowler7
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I honestly think it's 90% redditors. Especially with all the "I pinned sub q, how come there's a warm lump in my stomach" posts
YourHypocrisy
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Pain is really not my concern as much as whether I'm injecting something that is potentially cytotoxic. I've been living with chronic pain for 10 years. My pain tolerance is probably much higher than most. I wouldn't be too bothered if I knew the PIP was innocuous.
What happened with Pharmacom specifically in my case wasn't just a small bump with pain (which I believe still deserves questioning), but full blown abscesses that persisted even after sterilization, large enough to where a normal person would probably tell me to get to a hospital. Something like that can't be benign.
If that kind of an effect is taking place locally, what is it doing systemically? I simply don't want to shed years off my life, more so than I already am using AAS, through long term exposure to toxic/inflammatory substances in my gear.
More reason not to play with ugl. Stick to prescribed human grade products. Even if you have high tolerance to pain, why gamble right?
BigTomJ
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Complains about pip and welts... Is exclusively pinning subq.
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Amazing
laclark89
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he just has a virgin mangina lol.
I bet hes super uncomfortable doing it and shacking over the place and slams it In hecka to get it over with.
I bet hes super uncomfortable doing it and shacking over the place and slams it In hecka to get it over with.
nightprowler7
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Surprisingly that's a majority of them lol.
Moving the pin around, emptying a 3ml syringe in 4 seconds sub q, ect. Or, just genuine pussies...like soccer players.
Most of them just go back to being natty and taking mpmd supplements
I4NI
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Ok, maybe we are a bit harsh on you but I feel like you’re kinda out of touch with reality here. I understand your concerns, and if you have an abscess and continue to pin that site it’s going to get really bad. Get to a doctor, get on antibiotics and have it drained!!! Otherwise sepsis will eventually take over. I keep a variety of antibiotics on hand that can be purchased online through vet supply stores.
You’re essentially suggesting UGLs produce pharmaceutical grade products and that my friend is an oxymoron. As I and others have said it’s the nature of the beast with UGLs. They are not Pfizer, GSK, Eli Lilly, etc. Nor do they have the budget or equipment. Again we all know the risk. When one does their homework and ultimately decides to source UGL gear they should be well aware of the differences and potential consequences. There are a lot of reputable UGLs that take sanitation, safety and product quality seriously. That’s why it is so damn important we hold sources accountable! Your concern is valid and is something all users of UGL gear have to grapple with.
I might be wrong here but it seems like you are fueling the argument. Especially if you have pharma gear now.
phenominal34
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I get it, you’re trying to help this guy but he’s his own worst enemy. Pin IM or stop complaining. To the ppl that pin sub q nothing against them, hopefully it’s a good experiment for you but don’t complain of these side affects if you do.
This is a proper approach. We're all here to make gains and learn some shit about roids, i can't understand why some guys are so salty towards others who don't do it their way.
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I know people on You Tube and some doctors recommend subQ. I also know that subQ does have some reasons that some people view as advantages. I think what @phenominal34 was saying is if the OP is having a problem that is caused by subQ then maybe do it the correct way?
Also to OP: some compounds have pip, Test E, Primo, DHB to name a few
Deskoze38192
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That’s an auto-injector not a vial of Test
I always ways get drawn into these subQ vs IM debates somehow lol
People that do subQ always have problems that people that do IM don’t have
I need to stop posting about it really and just let people be lumpy and sore lol
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laclark89
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I cant even draw gear with a slin pin. No way am I about to waste my time trying to heat it or f around an back load one just for 1 cc
Why can’t everyone agree that you can use both and its just preference.
If you are fat enough to avoid lumps when injecting about 3ml of oil eod when blasting short esters, good for you but its not applicable to most. Same thing, if you have been doing this for decades and used IM all along then thats ok too.
Can we all agree there is no correct way but preference and convenience.
If you are fat enough to avoid lumps when injecting about 3ml of oil eod when blasting short esters, good for you but its not applicable to most. Same thing, if you have been doing this for decades and used IM all along then thats ok too.
Can we all agree there is no correct way but preference and convenience.
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laclark89
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Agreed. Stick it In ur forehead if u want lol.
Well, so far i haven't seen anyone crippling from a bad sq shot. Also haven't seen anyone with an abscess that needs to be drain or lead to a sepsis. Also i haven't seen anyone needing a deep tissue massage to reduce scar tissue..i'm only seeing post about lumps that if you're 8% bf and you do it on your abs it's awful to see, but if you pin in your buttcheeks and you have a lump here and there, yeah..not a big deal. I would propose everyone do whatever makes him happy and feel comfy enough. All roads lead to Rome..
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