Post up your Natty IGF-1 Level

[FunkOdyssey]

118 ng/dL at 43 years old, -0.4 z score. Sad. I might use some GH if I can get past the brutal lethargy that hits every time I try to take 2 IU.

 

[Mr_Fusion]

118 ng/dL at 43 years old, -0.4 z score. Sad. I might use some GH if I can get past the brutal lethargy that hits every time I try to take 2 IU.

Have you tried switching up your dosage timing to before bedtime?

 

[Jin23]

118 ng/dL at 43 years old, -0.4 z score. Sad. I might use some GH if I can get past the brutal lethargy that hits every time I try to take 2 IU.

Start at 1.0 and increase by 0.5 or even 0.25 every week. Once you hit your ceiling dose, lethargy should go away in a weeks time tops.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Have you tried switching up your dosage timing to before bedtime?

I was already using it at bedtime. The lethargy would actually be at its worst the following afternoon.

Start at 1.0 and increase by 0.5 or even 0.25 every week. Once you hit your ceiling dose, lethargy should go away in a weeks time tops.

Thank you, this seems like a good strategy that I will try. Maybe my mistake was trying to start at 2 IU. I'm also going to try switching to IM. Maybe the SC injections stick around too long.

 

[Benf15harp]

I was already using it at bedtime. The lethargy would actually be at its worst the following afternoon.

Thank you, this seems like a good strategy that I will try. Maybe my mistake was trying to start at 2 IU. I'm also going to try switching to IM. Maybe the SC injections stick around too long.

Definitely need to go IM taken right before sleep. SQ is 2x longer peak time. You want that peak about 2hours into sleep. With sq you need to take about 2hours prior to sleep.
And definitely start with a lower dose.
Since you know 2ius are too much, drop to 1.5ius and then work your way down. GL.

 

[Jin23]

I was already using it at bedtime. The lethargy would actually be at its worst the following afternoon.

Thank you, this seems like a good strategy that I will try. Maybe my mistake was trying to start at 2 IU. I'm also going to try switching to IM. Maybe the SC injections stick around too long.

IM vs subq is a small difference. Maybe half an hour faster Tmax in favour of IM. However, injection depth, location and individual variance matter.

And start as low as you're willing to go. 1.5 as mentioned above will probably be too high if 2 produced such unbearable lethargy.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Definitely need to go IM taken right before sleep. SQ is 2x longer peak time.

Good advice, I think it's working so far. No lethargy at 1.5 IU IM at bedtime.

 

[RekTest]

2015 pre everything, no TRT I found my endo did a IGF-1 test, as labcorp saves every bloodwork test on their website

155 ng/mL
I would have been around 21.

No idea what it is now with me being on 10-14iu daily, I should get it checked to see.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Sorry to hijack this thread but I do want to get mine tested. Where do you guys get tested? Can we buy a testing kit of some sort? Who sells them? Or do you guys go to a lab? What does it cost? Im in the US btw.

 

[malfeasance]

No idea what it is now with me being on 10-14iu daily, I should get it checked to see.

Probably in the billions. That's a lot of hgh!!!

 

[malfeasance]

Sorry to hijack this thread but I do want to get mine tested. Where do you guys get tested? Can we buy a testing kit of some sort? Who sells them? Or do you guys go to a lab? What does it cost? Im in the US btw.

In the US try privatemdlabs

 

[deadbeef]

And since I just got my blood work back after 7 days of 1IU, 7 days of 1.6IU, and then 5 days of 2IU:

389

3.7 standard deviations above the mean for my age

Another blood test. Now on 2IU for 4 weeks + 2 days: 420.

This is much higher than I expected to get on 2IU. Are there any drawbacks to running your IGF-1 that high? I may dial it back to 1IU and see where that puts me. My batch of HGH was tested and I'm dosing to the test so I shouldn't be over dosing.

 

[Benf15harp]

Another blood test. Now on 2IU for 4 weeks + 2 days: 420.

This is much higher than I expected to get on 2IU. Are there any drawbacks to running your IGF-1 that high? I may dial it back to 1IU and see where that puts me. My batch of HGH was tested and I'm dosing to the test so I shouldn't be over dosing.

When did you inject prior to blood draw?
Subq or Im?

 

[AlexDavis43]

No idea what it is now with me being on 10-14iu daily, I should get it checked to see.

Probably in the billions. That's a lot of hgh!!!

I don't know man. I'm getting a sense that IGF-1 doesn't scale like that even if all your ducks are in a row: Eg, no tren, no energy deficit... still not seeing IGF-1 in the 1000s in anyone on hGH.

 

[bigMoJo]

Age=51; hGH=never.
Was apparently on a cycle but thought it was "TRT" @ 200mg Test C + 200mg Deca /wk for over a year. 4 weeks prior to the above lab, dropped to 100mg/wk of each with 500iu/wk HCG (HCG for prev. 8 weeks as well). I'm coming off everything because I have minor surgery coming up and Hematocrit was high (no other sides). I'll have another lab next week going 4 weeks no AAS.

 

[bigMoJo]

Here is the update from my prev. post... this is approx. 35 days with no AAS.

 

[malfeasance]

Wow, in your 50s and 238, no wonder your Z score is 1.6

 

[readalot]

View attachment 297210
Here is the update from my prev. post... this is approx. 35 days with no AAS.

Studly. Best wishes on the procedure.

 

[hungryalways]

Does anyone know how long it takes for endogenous HGH and IGF-1 to return to baseline after stopping rHGH so I can get some baseline readings?

 

[mknodc13]

Does anyone know how long it takes for endogenous HGH and IGF-1 to return to baseline after stopping rHGH so I can get some baseline readings?

Have a read through this:

Thread 'Guide: How to Establish your Base-Line IGF-I (Serum) in Order to Determine Dose/Response (ΔIGF-I) to Agents that Increase IGF-I (e.g., rhGH)'

Oct 5, 2023

Establishing a Base-Line Serum IGF-I Value
Author: Type-IIx

Intent: (1) To help users establish a base-line serum IGF-I value In order to form a meaningful basis for comparison of serum IGF-I changes to base-line. (2) To help prospective clients (i.e., Comprehensive Coaching [training + nutrition + PEDs + supplements], or Individualized Protocols [PEDs + supplements]) have this data ready even before intake, so that we can get straight to the work of determining their drug response and forego superfluous periods of management of wash-out from agents that affect IGF-I levels...

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• Forum: Serum Blood Testing

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