Post up your Natty IGF-1 Level

Pretty much exactly where I am at 4iu. Considered increasing but frankly I’m happy with the results so far. Z 1.6 puts you in the top 5% of your peers in terms of IGF, and still well within safe physiologic range.

I’m also starting to think IGF-1 hyper response isn’t the blessing it appears to be, for long term use. All the benefits apart from anabolism are in GH not IGF, while almost all the serious risks that have to be managed are in IGF. It kind of sucks to only get 2iu in and hit a high IGF that puts you close to a Z score of 3, stopping you from safely increasing GH any further.
Yeah, I was thinking about that. Don't know how I'm responding yet but I hoping to run it safely at a higher dose. We'll see in January.
 
learning quickly and agree w/ Ghoul's assement about hyper responders..... :( Not looking like its going to be a tool on my toolbelt. And I respond the total opposite to test! Need lots to get a little.

Age: 43
Natty: IGF- 209
Z score: .9

2iu
IGF- 531
Z score: 3.3

190mg test: 840 total & 220 Free
312mg test: 1,323 total & Free N/A

Hmmmm...
 
learning quickly and agree w/ Ghoul's assement about hyper responders..... :( Not looking like its going to be a tool on my toolbelt. And I respond the total opposite to test! Need lots to get a little.

Age: 43
Natty: IGF- 209
Z score: .9

2iu
IGF- 531
Z score: 3.3

190mg test: 840 total & 220 Free
312mg test: 1,323 total & Free N/A

Hmmmm...
How long were you using 2 IU before you retested?
 
Tested while on reta and in a 10wk caloric deficit for context. 134.00ng/mL baseline 37m before starting the wwb yellow caps (plastic case white sticker). Did notice some aching joints temporarily and a scale bump of 2lb so praying this stuff isn’t bunk. Either way I have uthers otw so will wait to test again likely once reliably running that.
 
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