Yeah, I was thinking about that. Don't know how I'm responding yet but I hoping to run it safely at a higher dose. We'll see in January.
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adrenalytic
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Finally got mine checked. Not sure if this counts as natty but I was 3 weeks off of low dose HGH (2 IU /day)
Does this mean I'm free to blast 18 IUs daily for a little while?
Does this mean I'm free to blast 18 IUs daily for a little while?
Ghoul
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Finally got mine checked. Not sure if this counts as natty but I was 3 weeks off of low dose HGH (2 IU /day)
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Does this mean I'm free to blast 18 IUs daily for a little while?
No one can ever say you’re average, sir.
You are 0.2% above average!
oldage
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learning quickly and agree w/ Ghoul's assement about hyper responders..... 
Not looking like its going to be a tool on my toolbelt. And I respond the total opposite to test! Need lots to get a little.
Age: 43
Natty: IGF- 209
Z score: .9
2iu
IGF- 531
Z score: 3.3
190mg test: 840 total & 220 Free
312mg test: 1,323 total & Free N/A
Hmmmm...
Not looking like its going to be a tool on my toolbelt. And I respond the total opposite to test! Need lots to get a little.Age: 43
Natty: IGF- 209
Z score: .9
2iu
IGF- 531
Z score: 3.3
190mg test: 840 total & 220 Free
312mg test: 1,323 total & Free N/A
Hmmmm...
malfeasance
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.2 SD
Ghoul
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adrenalytic
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How long were you using 2 IU before you retested?learning quickly and agree w/ Ghoul's assement about hyper responders.....
Age: 43
Natty: IGF- 209
Z score: .9
2iu
IGF- 531
Z score: 3.3
190mg test: 840 total & 220 Free
312mg test: 1,323 total & Free N/A
Hmmmm...
Tested while on reta and in a 10wk caloric deficit for context. 134.00ng/mL baseline 37m before starting the wwb yellow caps (plastic case white sticker). Did notice some aching joints temporarily and a scale bump of 2lb so praying this stuff isn’t bunk. Either way I have uthers otw so will wait to test again likely once reliably running that.
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oldage
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60 days
malfeasance
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I have seen enough of your posts to know you understood Z score and SD, but I could not pass up the opportunity to poke some fun.Ok. 7.9% better than average.
I was just being dramatic
malfeasance
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So what is your IGF-1 level when not injecting any hgh?
I saw this guy complaining about being in the mid-200s, which looked high to me:
IGF-1 level and HGH replacement
TLDR: At what level of IGF-1 would you consider adding in a replacement dose of HGH? I'm almost 40 with a public safety job. I'm beat up. I've been thinking about adding in an HRT dose of 2iu GH to my 150mg TRT. But my last 2 IGF-1's have been 223 and 254 which are towards the top of the...thinksteroids.com
Mine are only 83 (range 50-317 ng/mL, so technically in range and not low, LOL)
What is your natty IGF-1 level?
Apparently this is how long it takes.
So, my 83 has been cured.
I divided up optitropin into 4 doses. I call it 3 iu, but it is technically ever so slightly more than that due to the vial being more than 12 iu, but I wanted the easy math, so divided by 4 it is, and call it 3 iu, too.
Result . . .
Drum roll, please . . .
325
Z Score of 2.1
I have been doing this a long time, so I probably am already a gorilla face since my Z score exceeded 2.
The difference between my natty IGF-1 and what I get from this small dose explains why such a low dose affects me so much more than others who say they cannot tell the difference.
Ghoul
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It’s really the others who are outliers.
When they treat adults with GH deficiency, doses rarely exceed 1.5iu to reach the upper end of the normal range, around Z score 1. And it takes a few months to titrate up to that level.
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