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Eddie. said:
Glad you posted it. Saw it yesterday..he says he prefers primo over mast but availability and injection volume is why he keeps using mast too. Also in off season he take 1000-1400 test with 700 mast+700 primo, so all the guys preaching the "John Jewett method with low test high mast for building muscle tissue in the off season" must find a new name for this method lol
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buzzingonaas said:
I have never seen anyone grow well or look like a superheavy weight bodybuilder having grown only on trt test plus high dht
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I did TRT test + 1g of mast for 6 months.

Originally I thought it might be equivalent to 500-700mg test but without the water weight / bloat, so I could bulk without the extra water weight and moon face.

I was running 5iu to 10iu of GH.

About 5 months in I dropped the GH, and peed out all of "gains" within a week.

My lifts have barely increased (I go to failure on my final set and track my workouts meticulously). My gains have been consistent with running TRT.

tldr; I looked my best but failed to make any progress.

I'm 40 now and a bit too old to try and get "huge" and run big doses, but if I had a gun to my head and had to make progress at all cost, I'd just run 1g+ of test + AI.
 
xrayphoton13 said:
Dr. Todd Lee is of this thinking due to John jewitt but he just placed last at his show so I'm not convinced. And John jewitt may be running this type of cycle now but he got to his size on 3 grams of test. And last time I looked at his logs it was 800 test/1400 mast or 1000 test/700primo/700mast. Something in that ballpark, not trt test
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All these guys doing these weird cycles and "biohacking", etc.

Most likely all of them, myself in included, built most (all?) of their mass on high test + AI.

Then started doing weird shit towards the end of their bodybuilding life cycle while not making much progress.


Edit: Also wanna add they also tend to hit their 30s/40s and become "low dose evangelists". Which is fine, but they make fuck all progress during that stage of their lives.
 
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explodingHeart said:
I did TRT test + 1g of mast for 6 months.

Originally I thought it might be equivalent to 500-700mg test but without the water weight / bloat, so I could bulk without the extra water weight and moon face.

I was running 5iu to 10iu of GH.

About 5 months in I dropped the GH, and peed out all of "gains" within a week.

My lifts have barely increased (I go to failure on my final set and track my workouts meticulously). My gains have been consistent with running TRT.

tldr; I looked my best but failed to make any progress.

I'm 40 now and a bit too old to try and get "huge" and run big doses, but if I had a gun to my head and had to make progress at all cost, I'd just run 1g+ of test + AI.
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Don’t short yourself, there are guys who grow in their 50’s lol. Big Paul’s progress is massive from being fat to ifbb pro in less than 5 years I think.

You won’t be a pro, but you can probably get to a decent level on par with your genetics with consistency at your age without blasting like you’re in your 20’s.
 
DECLAN said:
Don’t short yourself, there are guys who grow in their 50’s lol. Big Paul’s progress is massive from being fat to ifbb pro in less than 5 years I think.

You won’t be a pro, but you can probably get to a decent level on par with your genetics with consistency at your age without blasting like you’re in your 20’s.
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View attachment grow.mov


I clipped the relevant part where they discuss doses.
 
jjnnnt said:
have you tried sdrol LOL? you wont make it past 2 weeks before appetite suppression and/or lethargy gets to you
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Nope, I got a pack of Sdrol though. Anyways, the question wasnt about which compounds are the most tolerable or have the best gains:side-effects ratio. It was rather which will get you gains the quickest. Its entirely debatable, but in my opinion right now, and off the top of my head, Test+Tren+Superdrol is best.
 
jjnnnt said:
have you tried sdrol LOL? you wont make it past 2 weeks before appetite suppression and/or lethargy gets to you
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I might have to try sdrol on my last month if the appetite suppression is that potent, tried adrol at 100mg per day and no suppression of appetite just heart burn lol.

At what dose did you feel appetite suppression? How was your blood pressure?
 
DECLAN said:
I might have to try sdrol on my last month if the appetite suppression is that potent, tried adrol at 100mg per day and no suppression of appetite just heart burn lol.

At what dose did you feel appetite suppression? How was your blood pressure?
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Taking superdrol to get a bit of appetite supression is pretty drastic. Why not opt for some semaglutide? It was designed to supress apetite.
 
Because sema jacks my heart rate crazy, plus I will add an oral for pre workout when I am deep in caloric deficit and energy is pretty low, the appetite suppression would be a bonus.

So instead of winny I will try sdrol, we’ll see. @ZyzzReincarnate
 
ZyzzReincarnate said:
DECLAN said:
I might have to try sdrol on my last month if the appetite suppression is that potent, tried adrol at 100mg per day and no suppression of appetite just heart burn lol.

At what dose did you feel appetite suppression? How was your blood pressure?
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Same I’ve ran adrol 100 mg 2x daily 50/50 split and I noticed zero appetite suppression.

I don’t think personally I would need an oral to suppress appetite, even though I’m always hungry. I know how to starve, I just act like a bee otch when I am lol.


ZyzzReincarnate said:
I'd argue its Test + Tren + Superdrol
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Damn I dident mean to turn this post into the most toxic possible stack lol. But I guess I was pushing it.

I’ve never really ran sdrol properly with test, so I have no opinion/experience with it, and I never will. Just the bs sdrol they sold at gnc when I was in high school.
 
DECLAN said:
Because sema jacks my heart rate crazy, plus I will add an oral for pre workout when I am deep in caloric deficit and energy is pretty low, the appetite suppression would be a bonus.

So instead of winny I will try sdrol, we’ll see. @ZyzzReincarnate
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You could try tirzepatide and see if it's better towards HR. I seem to respond backwards between tirz and sema. I get way more appetite suppression on tirzepatide and my heart rate goes up. My hr does not go up on semaglutide
 
xrayphoton13 said:
Damn, he even took off his medal and ignored everyone yelling at him to come back. I hear he's hard of hearing but you would hear that. He seems to hear people just fine in interviews. He knew exactly what he was doing
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Hey, sorry I only see this, now.
Thanks for the comment.

Is he blind, too?
Couldn't see what was happening right in front of him?
He knows the score. Been there, done that.
The people that tried to excuse him are just as crap as he is (can't believe the winner had a go... I mean, if he was trying to be politically correct about it, they should flipping take his medal back).
If HC ends up winning, this year (and like I said, I hope not), they should all walk off.
 
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