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Yeabuddyron

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I had one failed attempt at a PCT after a 16 week tren test cycle both at 500mg every week. Tren was discontinued on week 12.

Pre 1st PCT Bloods 3 weeks after last pin
TT:139
LH: .8
FSH .7
Estradiol: 15

Failed PCT Bloods taken 6 weeks after serms
TT:349
LH: 4.5
FSH: 1.7
Estradiol: <5

Started Power PCT
Blasted 20000 iu of hcg 2000iu eod and felt great 2nd week. Felt like my old self again. Started Clomid at 50mg and nolva at 20mg and about 2nd week felt the crash but started feeling better in week 3 and 4. Here are my bloods after 30 days. I'm far from impressed and actually a little upset because I can only assume with the results it's trt for life at 30 for me.

30 days on power PCT Bloods
TT:569
LH 6.8
FSH: 2.7
Estradiol: 30

Am I just a week responder or are my nuts just not in the game anymore. What do y'all think of these numbers?
@Michael Scally MD should I continue Clomid and nolva longer or is it a lost cause?
 
Yeabuddyron said:
I'm far from impressed and actually a little upset because I can only assume with the results it's trt for life at 30 for me.

30 days on power PCT Bloods
TT:569
LH 6.8
FSH: 2.7
Estradiol: 30
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Where are your precycle bloods?

How long after Power PCT were the quoted bloods drawn?

Why in the hell do you think you need TRT with a testosterone level of 569?
 
My precycle bloods from 2 cycles before this one was an 830. I drew those bloods while still taking Clomid and nolva. Reason why I'm worried about trt is because as soon as serms clear I'm sure it'll drop a decent amount probably right back to 349. If they were 549 after 6 weeks off serms I'd be estatic.
 
Yeabuddyron said:
My precycle bloods from 2 cycles before this one was an 830. I drew those bloods while still taking Clomid and nolva. Reason why I'm worried about trt is because as soon as serms clear I'm sure it'll drop a decent amount probably right back to 349.
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I don't recall exactly what Scally's protocol is off the top of my head but I'm confident that you're not using his exact protocol.

There are other issues with what you've got going on but I think I'll just end my post here...
 
Power PCT protocol is hcg 2000 iu e3d for 20000iu total. Followed by Clomid at 50mg twice daily and nolva.

The only difference is Clomid but it gives me wicked headaches and vision problems so I kept it at 50mg daily... What other issues are there? Please speak up you'll hurt my feelings none. Not sure why you seem to come of like your trying to belittle me or something but that is not relevant to my issue.
 
Yeabuddyron said:
Power PCT protocol is hcg 2000 iu e3d for 20000iu total. Followed by Clomid at 50mg twice daily and nolva.

The only difference is Clomid but it gives me wicked headaches and vision problems so I kept it at 50mg daily... What other issues are there? Please speak up you'll hurt my feelings none. Not sure why you seem to come of like your trying to belittle me or something but that is not relevant to my issue.
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Eman can come across harsh, but it's a tough love kind of thing. He knows his shit and isn't one to coddle people.

I would see what your bloods are after you're totally done with everything for a bit.

I also have other questions.
What's your current natural supplement protocol look like?

What is your exact diet?

What prescription medication do you take?

Are you consuming alcohol, smoking or any recreational drugs?

How is your daily stress?

And a huge one... What's your sleep look like? If you're getting 5hrs of sleep a night, or waking up several times a night and you expect your test levels to be back at 800, you need to re evaluate some basics.

These are all factors in hormone levels.
 
My diet is fairly clean but have been eating over maintenance since all this has been going on. It's 3kcal with roughly a 40/30/30 split. No drugs or alcohol and only medication I take is nexium. I take orange triad as a multi 2 or 3 times a week. Sleep is lacking but I get roughly 7 hrs a night. I figured with all those serms it surely would have been higher reguardless of other factors. Even my fsh seems low considering 30days of Clomid and nolva
 
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Yeabuddyron said:
My diet is fairly clean but have been eating over maintenance since all this has been going on. It's 3kcal with roughly a 40/30/30 split. No drugs or alcohol and only medication I take is nexium. I take orange triad as a multi 2 or 3 times a week. Sleep is lacking but I get roughly 7 hrs a night. I figured with all those serms it surely would have been higher reguardless of other factors. Even my fsh seems low considering 30days of Clomid and nolva
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I'm actually not concerned with calories or macros, I'm concerned with the specific foods you're eating and their influence on your hormones.
 
Chicken breast, steak or ground beef, tuna and tilapia for meat. Broccoli, rice, squash, onions, peppers beans and potatoes for carbs. Butters and oils for fats if needed along with what I get from meats. I dont eat a lot of snacks. But if I do it's some chips or crackers with cheese or hummus and some fruit now and again. I could add in that 2 nights before was my birthday and I did get pretty intoxicated but how much of an impact would 1 night of drinking out of a whole year affect t levels 2 days after.
 
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Yeabuddyron said:
I had one failed attempt at a PCT after a 16 week tren test cycle both at 500mg every week. Tren was discontinued on week 12.

Pre 1st PCT Bloods 3 weeks after last pin
TT:139
LH: .8
FSH .7
Estradiol: 15

Failed PCT Bloods taken 6 weeks after serms
TT:349
LH: 4.5
FSH: 1.7
Estradiol: <5

Started Power PCT
Blasted 20000 iu of hcg 2000iu eod and felt great 2nd week. Felt like my old self again. Started Clomid at 50mg and nolva at 20mg and about 2nd week felt the crash but started feeling better in week 3 and 4. Here are my bloods after 30 days. I'm far from impressed and actually a little upset because I can only assume with the results it's trt for life at 30 for me.

30 days on power PCT Bloods
TT:569
LH 6.8
FSH: 2.7
Estradiol: 30

Am I just a week responder or are my nuts just not in the game anymore. What do y'all think of these numbers?
@Michael Scally MD should I continue Clomid and nolva longer or is it a lost cause?
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As of now everything looks in normal range. FSH on the low end, might make it a bit harder to get your significant other pregnant as of now, that number might rise with time.

You need to run bloods in a few weeks to see how you holding. Too early to tell
 
Docd187123 said:
Dr. Scaly recommends bloods during the HCG blast to look at the testes' sensitivity to LH
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I get that but I defiantly responded. I felt like I was on tren the second week. Jacking it and watching porn all day. Just seems to me my nuts are just like eh yea whatever for some reason. Is it possible I'm just a week responder and over time I'll slowly keep rising. I mean 200 points in a month isn't horrible for only a 2.0 rise on LH is it? Crazy how some people go from 300 to 1000 in a month!

As of now I think Ima go low dose nolva 20mg for 30 more days till I run out out and then wait a month and test again. If not up I'll be blasting and cruising.
 
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I wasn't primary before the cycle and never fully atrophied so I don't see how any huge amount of permanent damage could have been done to the testicles.
 
Yeabuddyron said:
I had one failed attempt at a PCT after a 16 week tren test cycle both at 500mg every week. Tren was discontinued on week 12.

Pre 1st PCT Bloods 3 weeks after last pin
TT:139
LH: .8
FSH .7
Estradiol: 15

Failed PCT Bloods taken 6 weeks after serms
TT:349
LH: 4.5
FSH: 1.7
Estradiol: <5

Started Power PCT
Blasted 20000 iu of hcg 2000iu eod and felt great 2nd week. Felt like my old self again. Started Clomid at 50mg and nolva at 20mg and about 2nd week felt the crash but started feeling better in week 3 and 4. Here are my bloods after 30 days. I'm far from impressed and actually a little upset because I can only assume with the results it's trt for life at 30 for me.

30 days on power PCT Bloods
TT:569
LH 6.8
FSH: 2.7
Estradiol: 30

Am I just a week responder or are my nuts just not in the game anymore. What do y'all think of these numbers?
@Michael Scally MD should I continue Clomid and nolva longer or is it a lost cause?
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IMO Power pct uses too high dosages over too short period.

Best to use lower HCG dosages over several months
Therapy with human chorionic gonadotrophin alone induces spermatogenesis in men with isolated hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism--long-term follow-up. - PubMed - NCBI
 
Ima try low dose nolva for now and see if possibly testicles will start waking up once LH keeps creeping up. Do y'all think 10mg of nolva would do since I could double the time rather than 20mg?
 
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