Introduction
After realizing I have a complete endocrine dysfunction back in February of this year, I undertook a huge quest to get to the root cause of my problems and get my hormones back on track... the right way. Fuck Androgel, make sure my diet is on, anything to avoid a lifetime of injectable therapy. I started to work with an 'enlightened' doc and a nutritionist to make dietary and lifestyle changes and saw improved (doubling, actually) of my levels but I was STILL out of range.
I started at 169 Total Test back in mid-May. I made a few key dietary and lifestyle modifications. I retested in late-September at 379 Total Test. Though I am still out of range, my levels are starting to come up naturally. I need something to enhance my natural testosterone production since it is there, its just not pumping effectively.
Enter Pp. I contacted Eric at Pp and he said he would sponsor me for Sustain Alpha and Toco8 but under one condition, I have to post:
-Initial bloodwork BEFORE Sustain Alpha and Toco8.
-Bloodwork AFTER a one month cycle of SA/T8.
-Bloodwork 4-6 WEEKS AFTER my trial of SA/T8.
Basically, I am putting SA/T8 to the test for Pp and giving all the forums the hard numbers involved.
In the interim, I will log what I am getting from SA/T8.
Timeline
09/22
INITIAL BLOODWORK
Testosterone, Total: 379 (250-1100)
Testosterone, Free: 86.4 (46.0-224.0)
Testosterone, Bioavailable: 192.8 (110.0-575.0)
LH: 5.38 (1.24-8.62)
FSH: 9.3 (1.27-19.26)
10/23
Begin Sustain Alpha and Toco8
11/23
End Sustain Alpha and Toco8
week of 11/24
Get Immediate Post-SA/T8 Bloodwork Done
11/24 + 4-6 weeks
Get Post-SA/T8 Bloodwork Done
First 2 Weeks Log
Week 1
Right BEFORE starting, I noticed it was the first time I was starting to get morning wood naturally in many, many months (maybe years). I was still relying on Levitra in order to keep the lady happy, though. After about 3-4 days on SA/T8, I noticed I was starting to get spontaneous erections. My ED finally disappeared. For the rest of the week I slowly started to notice the following:
-increased social confidence, words and ideas would start to flow out of me without me feeling it necessary to think about what I'm going to say first
-an increase up to full performance for reliable, potent erections
-slow increase in libido
As for the characteristics of the actual supplement, the Sustain Alpha isn't bad and the Toco-8 is great. First, the Sustain Alpha smell isn't great when applying. It smells like a mix of a light citrus scent and a strong salted sausage meat/pastrami scent. This is ONLY WHEN YOU APPLY, though. The first time I put it on, I applied it and immediately asked my roommate to take a whiff and see if he smelt anything because I was 'trying out a new lotion'. He said he couldn't smell anything. The lady also couldn't smell anything. I cannot smell anything after it is applied. In concentrated, unapplied form it is only slightly unpleasant. Applied, though, its completely unnoticeable. I have only a minor problem with the smell and it is that it seems to stick to your hands and not come out when you wash them (especially after many days of use). Then, when you go to eat, when your hands get near your face to shovel food in your mouth, the smell can sometimes waft off your hands. It is nothing unbearable though and doesn't bother me after getting accustomed to it.
Toco8 is GREAT. It is based in a tapioca powder so it’s like eating pudding. I love the taste and actually wish I eat more of it.
Week 2
Week 2 was much of the same except I am starting to notice a more powerful increase in libido. I was lying in bed with the girlfriend and noticed, for the first time, I was pushing for sex when she wasn't. We usually have sex at fairly consistent times. Oddly, though, as we were lying in bed falling asleep... I wanted seconds!! For the first time, I noticed myself trying to initiate in addition to the already satisfactory frequency that we have sex.
Last night was, by far, the most obvious example of the SA/T8 combo increasing my libido. While we were watching a movie, we had sex. After returning from cleaning up in the bathroom afterwards, I laid back down and continued to watch the movie with her. By the time the scene was over, I was already whispering into her ear asking if she was ready for round 2. Indeed, the foreplay began and round 2 started. And round 2 was a slam dunk, too. This was within no more than 15 minutes of another ejaculation. My libido was up and one wasn't enough. It was like the sex center of my brain was on autopilot and it was unsatisfied with one round. Anyways... this was pretty big for me. 2 weeks ago I couldn't even achieve one erection on my own. Now I'm knockin two out within 15 minutes of each other.
Method of Administration
Sustain Alpha: In the shower, exfoliating with a washcloth on application areas. Applying to my torso (pecs and stomach), shoulders, and neck... spreading around to my back and my hips as necessary. I am not applying to the scrotum as a personal preference.
Toco8: Tossing a scoop into my mouth, enjoying the flavor, washing down with whatever I'm drinking.
Supplementation Profile and Diet
For the entire duration of the log, I will be taking the following:
Dr. Cranton's PrimeNutrients - Usually 1/2 serving/day but occasionally 1 serving/day... just my multi
Biotest Flameout - 1 Serving
Udos Choice 3-6-9 Omega Complex - 1 TBSP
500mg Calcium D-Glucarate
2mg Copper (to address copper deficiency)
and, of course...
5 pumps Sustain Alpha
1 scoop/serving Toco8
Questions?
Please leave em.
I will update this thread as things roll in.
After realizing I have a complete endocrine dysfunction back in February of this year, I undertook a huge quest to get to the root cause of my problems and get my hormones back on track... the right way. Fuck Androgel, make sure my diet is on, anything to avoid a lifetime of injectable therapy. I started to work with an 'enlightened' doc and a nutritionist to make dietary and lifestyle changes and saw improved (doubling, actually) of my levels but I was STILL out of range.
I started at 169 Total Test back in mid-May. I made a few key dietary and lifestyle modifications. I retested in late-September at 379 Total Test. Though I am still out of range, my levels are starting to come up naturally. I need something to enhance my natural testosterone production since it is there, its just not pumping effectively.
Enter Pp. I contacted Eric at Pp and he said he would sponsor me for Sustain Alpha and Toco8 but under one condition, I have to post:
-Initial bloodwork BEFORE Sustain Alpha and Toco8.
-Bloodwork AFTER a one month cycle of SA/T8.
-Bloodwork 4-6 WEEKS AFTER my trial of SA/T8.
Basically, I am putting SA/T8 to the test for Pp and giving all the forums the hard numbers involved.
In the interim, I will log what I am getting from SA/T8.
Timeline
09/22
INITIAL BLOODWORK
Testosterone, Total: 379 (250-1100)
Testosterone, Free: 86.4 (46.0-224.0)
Testosterone, Bioavailable: 192.8 (110.0-575.0)
LH: 5.38 (1.24-8.62)
FSH: 9.3 (1.27-19.26)
10/23
Begin Sustain Alpha and Toco8
11/23
End Sustain Alpha and Toco8
week of 11/24
Get Immediate Post-SA/T8 Bloodwork Done
11/24 + 4-6 weeks
Get Post-SA/T8 Bloodwork Done
First 2 Weeks Log
Week 1
Right BEFORE starting, I noticed it was the first time I was starting to get morning wood naturally in many, many months (maybe years). I was still relying on Levitra in order to keep the lady happy, though. After about 3-4 days on SA/T8, I noticed I was starting to get spontaneous erections. My ED finally disappeared. For the rest of the week I slowly started to notice the following:
-increased social confidence, words and ideas would start to flow out of me without me feeling it necessary to think about what I'm going to say first
-an increase up to full performance for reliable, potent erections
-slow increase in libido
As for the characteristics of the actual supplement, the Sustain Alpha isn't bad and the Toco-8 is great. First, the Sustain Alpha smell isn't great when applying. It smells like a mix of a light citrus scent and a strong salted sausage meat/pastrami scent. This is ONLY WHEN YOU APPLY, though. The first time I put it on, I applied it and immediately asked my roommate to take a whiff and see if he smelt anything because I was 'trying out a new lotion'. He said he couldn't smell anything. The lady also couldn't smell anything. I cannot smell anything after it is applied. In concentrated, unapplied form it is only slightly unpleasant. Applied, though, its completely unnoticeable. I have only a minor problem with the smell and it is that it seems to stick to your hands and not come out when you wash them (especially after many days of use). Then, when you go to eat, when your hands get near your face to shovel food in your mouth, the smell can sometimes waft off your hands. It is nothing unbearable though and doesn't bother me after getting accustomed to it.
Toco8 is GREAT. It is based in a tapioca powder so it’s like eating pudding. I love the taste and actually wish I eat more of it.
Week 2
Week 2 was much of the same except I am starting to notice a more powerful increase in libido. I was lying in bed with the girlfriend and noticed, for the first time, I was pushing for sex when she wasn't. We usually have sex at fairly consistent times. Oddly, though, as we were lying in bed falling asleep... I wanted seconds!! For the first time, I noticed myself trying to initiate in addition to the already satisfactory frequency that we have sex.
Last night was, by far, the most obvious example of the SA/T8 combo increasing my libido. While we were watching a movie, we had sex. After returning from cleaning up in the bathroom afterwards, I laid back down and continued to watch the movie with her. By the time the scene was over, I was already whispering into her ear asking if she was ready for round 2. Indeed, the foreplay began and round 2 started. And round 2 was a slam dunk, too. This was within no more than 15 minutes of another ejaculation. My libido was up and one wasn't enough. It was like the sex center of my brain was on autopilot and it was unsatisfied with one round. Anyways... this was pretty big for me. 2 weeks ago I couldn't even achieve one erection on my own. Now I'm knockin two out within 15 minutes of each other.
Method of Administration
Sustain Alpha: In the shower, exfoliating with a washcloth on application areas. Applying to my torso (pecs and stomach), shoulders, and neck... spreading around to my back and my hips as necessary. I am not applying to the scrotum as a personal preference.
Toco8: Tossing a scoop into my mouth, enjoying the flavor, washing down with whatever I'm drinking.
Supplementation Profile and Diet
For the entire duration of the log, I will be taking the following:
Dr. Cranton's PrimeNutrients - Usually 1/2 serving/day but occasionally 1 serving/day... just my multi
Biotest Flameout - 1 Serving
Udos Choice 3-6-9 Omega Complex - 1 TBSP
500mg Calcium D-Glucarate
2mg Copper (to address copper deficiency)
and, of course...
5 pumps Sustain Alpha
1 scoop/serving Toco8
Questions?
Please leave em.
I will update this thread as things roll in.
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