Astartes
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Interesting read below:
For those that push your joints and tendons too hard and have experienced the nightmare of Prednisone or Methylprednisolone treatment over a two week course… it is possible that WEEKLY doses have a POSITIVE effect on strength and muscle repair/recovery.
The study insinuated that infrequent weekly doses (though it doesn’t specify the dose due to being in mice) may actually stimulate the muscle repair process.
I myself have in hindsight experienced what MAY have been this effect. Typically I am STRONG the first day after my initial dose (Usually 30mg Prednisone or 24mg Methylprednisolone) to start, tapering to 5mg or 4mg respectively by week 2.
I have always thought this was due to the drop in debilitating pain from tendon injury or inflamation. (Perhaps it is, but endurance is strong as well)
The second day I am starting to suck wind, and by end of the first week I am “slack” or “flat” and by the second week I have lost muscle size and volume alongside strength.
Knowing a “pulsing” weekly dose may provide positive benefits, is encouraging. I intend to give this a go, and report back in the next month after trying it for 30 days during my cruise.
STUDY BELOW:
LINK: Weekly Steroids Strengthen and Repair Muscles - News Center
Images of mouse muscle repair with and without prednisone. The red images indicate the area of muscle injury, which is reduced by prednisone. The green images show the repair cap (scab) forming over the site of injury. The repair complex forms more quickly with prednisone.
The studies were conducted in mice, with implications for humans.
One of the major problems of using steroids such as prednisone is they cause muscle wasting and weakness when taken long term. This is a significant problem for people who take steroids for many chronic conditions, and can often result in patients having to stop steroid treatments.
But the new study showed weekly doses — rather than daily ones — promote muscle repair.
“We don’t have human data yet, but these findings strongly suggest some alternative ways of giving a very commonly used drug in a manner that doesn’t harm, but in fact helps muscle,” said lead investigator Elizabeth McNally, MD, PhD, the Elizabeth J. Ward Professor of Genetic Medicine and the director of the Center for Genetic Medicine.
The study showed prednisone directs the production of annexins, proteins that stimulate muscle healing. Giving weekly doses of prednisone also stimulated a molecule called KLF15, which is associated with improved muscle performance. Daily doses of prednisone, however, reduced KLF15, leading to muscle wasting.
In the study, normal mice with a muscle injury received steroids just before injury and for two weeks after the injury. Mice receiving two weekly doses of steroids after the injury performed better on treadmill testing and had stronger muscle than mice receiving a placebo.
Mice that received daily steroids for two weeks after the muscle injury performed poorly on the treadmill and in muscle strength studies, compared to placebo-treated mice.
Scientists also tested the drug in a mouse model of muscular dystrophy, since prednisone is normally given for this disease. Mice with muscular dystrophy that received weekly prednisone were stronger and performed better on the treadmill than those that received a placebo. When prednisone was given every day, the muscles atrophied and wasted.
McNally, also a professor of Medicine in the Division of Cardiology and of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics, initiated the research because she wanted to understand how prednisone — which is given to treat individuals with a form of muscular dystrophy called Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy — prolongs patients’ ability to walk independently and stay out of a wheelchair.
“It’s been known that long-term daily treatment with prednisone also has the side effect of causing muscle wasting in many people,” McNally said. “So it has always been something of a medical curiosity that it is also used chronically to treat conditions like myositis (muscle inflammation) and Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.”
While years of being on the steroids cause growth suppression, osteoporosis and other bad side effects, boys with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy walk two to three years longer if they take steroids. Only boys get Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy because it is on the X chromosome, and males have only one X chromosome.
“A typical boy goes into a wheelchair at age 10; if he takes steroids, it’s age 13,” McNally said. “So in muscular dystrophy, there is definitely a benefit, but it’s a double-edged sword with all the side effects.”
For the study, McNally and colleagues used high-resolution imaging to view the muscle’s ability to repair itself. This technique uses a laser to poke a hole in muscle cells. Then the muscle cell is observed in real time as it reseals the hole, a natural repair process.
Next, the scientists tested to see if steroids could boost the repair process.
“The steroids made muscle heal faster,” McNally said. “We were like, ‘Wow!’ It accelerated the repair in the muscle cells.”
For the second part of the study, scientists tested steroids in mice. They damaged the leg muscles in mice and noticed the mice receiving the steroids recovered more rapidly from injury.
“We showed steroid treatment, when given weekly, improves muscle performance,” McNally said.
Her work also implies normal muscle injury would improve more quickly by taking a weekly dose of steroids such as prednisone.
In the future, McNally would like to test steroids in humans and is considering studying it in forms of muscular dystrophy in which steroids would not normally be given, like Becker Muscular Dystrophy or Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy. Steroid treatment is not usually offered for these diseases since the side effects are thought to outweigh any potential benefit.
The study was funded in part by National Institutes of Health grants NIH U54 AR052646 and NIH RO1 NS047726, the Muscular Dystrophy Association, Parent Project Muscular Dystrophy and the American Heart Association.
For those that push your joints and tendons too hard and have experienced the nightmare of Prednisone or Methylprednisolone treatment over a two week course… it is possible that WEEKLY doses have a POSITIVE effect on strength and muscle repair/recovery.
The study insinuated that infrequent weekly doses (though it doesn’t specify the dose due to being in mice) may actually stimulate the muscle repair process.
I myself have in hindsight experienced what MAY have been this effect. Typically I am STRONG the first day after my initial dose (Usually 30mg Prednisone or 24mg Methylprednisolone) to start, tapering to 5mg or 4mg respectively by week 2.
I have always thought this was due to the drop in debilitating pain from tendon injury or inflamation. (Perhaps it is, but endurance is strong as well)
The second day I am starting to suck wind, and by end of the first week I am “slack” or “flat” and by the second week I have lost muscle size and volume alongside strength.
Knowing a “pulsing” weekly dose may provide positive benefits, is encouraging. I intend to give this a go, and report back in the next month after trying it for 30 days during my cruise.
STUDY BELOW:
LINK: Weekly Steroids Strengthen and Repair Muscles - News Center
Steroids thought to waste muscles surprisingly turn out to be beneficial in weekly doses
Weekly doses of glucocorticoid steroids, such as prednisone, help speed recovery in muscle injuries, reports a new Northwestern Medicine study published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation. The weekly steroids also repaired muscles damaged by muscular dystrophy.
Images of mouse muscle repair with and without prednisone. The red images indicate the area of muscle injury, which is reduced by prednisone. The green images show the repair cap (scab) forming over the site of injury. The repair complex forms more quickly with prednisone.The studies were conducted in mice, with implications for humans.
One of the major problems of using steroids such as prednisone is they cause muscle wasting and weakness when taken long term. This is a significant problem for people who take steroids for many chronic conditions, and can often result in patients having to stop steroid treatments.
But the new study showed weekly doses — rather than daily ones — promote muscle repair.
“We don’t have human data yet, but these findings strongly suggest some alternative ways of giving a very commonly used drug in a manner that doesn’t harm, but in fact helps muscle,” said lead investigator Elizabeth McNally, MD, PhD, the Elizabeth J. Ward Professor of Genetic Medicine and the director of the Center for Genetic Medicine.
The study showed prednisone directs the production of annexins, proteins that stimulate muscle healing. Giving weekly doses of prednisone also stimulated a molecule called KLF15, which is associated with improved muscle performance. Daily doses of prednisone, however, reduced KLF15, leading to muscle wasting.
In the study, normal mice with a muscle injury received steroids just before injury and for two weeks after the injury. Mice receiving two weekly doses of steroids after the injury performed better on treadmill testing and had stronger muscle than mice receiving a placebo.
Mice that received daily steroids for two weeks after the muscle injury performed poorly on the treadmill and in muscle strength studies, compared to placebo-treated mice.
Scientists also tested the drug in a mouse model of muscular dystrophy, since prednisone is normally given for this disease. Mice with muscular dystrophy that received weekly prednisone were stronger and performed better on the treadmill than those that received a placebo. When prednisone was given every day, the muscles atrophied and wasted.
McNally, also a professor of Medicine in the Division of Cardiology and of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics, initiated the research because she wanted to understand how prednisone — which is given to treat individuals with a form of muscular dystrophy called Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy — prolongs patients’ ability to walk independently and stay out of a wheelchair.
“It’s been known that long-term daily treatment with prednisone also has the side effect of causing muscle wasting in many people,” McNally said. “So it has always been something of a medical curiosity that it is also used chronically to treat conditions like myositis (muscle inflammation) and Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.”
While years of being on the steroids cause growth suppression, osteoporosis and other bad side effects, boys with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy walk two to three years longer if they take steroids. Only boys get Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy because it is on the X chromosome, and males have only one X chromosome.
“A typical boy goes into a wheelchair at age 10; if he takes steroids, it’s age 13,” McNally said. “So in muscular dystrophy, there is definitely a benefit, but it’s a double-edged sword with all the side effects.”
For the study, McNally and colleagues used high-resolution imaging to view the muscle’s ability to repair itself. This technique uses a laser to poke a hole in muscle cells. Then the muscle cell is observed in real time as it reseals the hole, a natural repair process.
Next, the scientists tested to see if steroids could boost the repair process.
“The steroids made muscle heal faster,” McNally said. “We were like, ‘Wow!’ It accelerated the repair in the muscle cells.”
For the second part of the study, scientists tested steroids in mice. They damaged the leg muscles in mice and noticed the mice receiving the steroids recovered more rapidly from injury.
“We showed steroid treatment, when given weekly, improves muscle performance,” McNally said.
Her work also implies normal muscle injury would improve more quickly by taking a weekly dose of steroids such as prednisone.
In the future, McNally would like to test steroids in humans and is considering studying it in forms of muscular dystrophy in which steroids would not normally be given, like Becker Muscular Dystrophy or Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy. Steroid treatment is not usually offered for these diseases since the side effects are thought to outweigh any potential benefit.
The study was funded in part by National Institutes of Health grants NIH U54 AR052646 and NIH RO1 NS047726, the Muscular Dystrophy Association, Parent Project Muscular Dystrophy and the American Heart Association.
