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Nah bro. I been pinning quads for a while now. Been using Stans and Primals Deca 250 for a while but Primal didn’t have any 250 on hand just the 200. Shit is on par with Primo pip wise. Holy shit got me limping and shit
maybe its not deca.... or its got plastic in it? See the rest of this thread for the last week....
 
I'm going to stop visiting this thread, except to repost this daily.
Please direct any new joiners to this post.
Please re-post as necessary as well.

Beware, vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products which doesn't match vendor's own testing. If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on products before usage.

(1) Test U 250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for 2 different brews with different mg/ml.

(2) Primo - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China Primo for US Dom prices.

(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.

(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.

(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment.

(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.

(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.

(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)
You’re the only person repeating this claim daily, despite our volume, long-standing public logs, blind third-party testing, and zero corroboration from actual customers. If there were systemic contamination or chronic underdosing, it would not require one individual spamming the same copy-paste post to “warn” people. The market would have spoken already.

What is weird is the fixation and the pattern. We’ve also heard from multiple people that you’ve had involvement with an unnamed competing source in the past, which would at least explain the motivation here. Whether that’s true or not, the behavior speaks for itself.

We stand by our products. New members are free to review independent feedback, verified tests, and make their own decisions. Reposting the same accusation every day doesn’t make it more credible, it just makes it transparent.
 
I think the accusation of saying all gear is contaminated is a bit of a stretch but alas here we are.

Anyways pinned a 1ml of the p12 batch tren-e and it was smooth as butter compared to the last source I was using.
 
I think the accusation of saying all gear is contaminated is a bit of a stretch but alas here we are.

Anyways pinned a 1ml of the p12 batch tren-e and it was smooth as butter compared to the last source I was using.
That’s the thing I pinned his Tren E 200mg mct and it was as smooth as butter. No pip whatsoever. Deca 200 fucked me up though.
 
What is weird is the fixation and the pattern. We’ve also heard from multiple people that you’ve had involvement with an unnamed competing source in the past, which would at least explain the motivation here. Whether that’s true or not, the behavior speaks for itself.

Indeed.
I called out on Axle as well for selling junk.
Instead of addressing the contaminated products, he chose to do an exit scam.

Reposting the same accusation every day doesn’t make it more credible, it just makes it transparent.

Exactly my purpose.
This thread moves quick and much of it is non vendor talk.
Thank you for acknowledging that it will serve it's intended purpose.
People will make their own informed choices to buy or not.
 
If there were systemic contamination or chronic underdosing, it would not require one individual spamming the same copy-paste post to “warn” people

Reposting the same accusation every day doesn’t make it more credible, it just makes it transparent
The actual Primal customers that offered valid criticism when warranted and pushed back on other members motivated by personal agendas have all been “disappeared”.
There are a handful of personalities here that believe the rest of us are too stupid to make educated decisions regarding where we purchase. This blatant hall monitoring is unnecessary and even worse creates distrust among the “real” members of this community.
 
The actual Primal customers that offered valid criticism when warranted and pushed back on other members motivated by personal agendas have all been “disappeared”.
There are a handful of personalities here that believe the rest of us are too stupid to make educated decisions regarding where we purchase. This blatant hall monitoring is unnecessary and even worse creates distrust among the “real” members of this community.
Such a vague post… What am I supposed to do with this? Who are the “handful of personalities… hall monitoring”? Who do you consider “real” members?

I’m an active customer of Primal’s (have some stuff en route). But I’m also one of the people challenging them on their discrepancies, both in their testing and their actions.

I would really like to see Primal’s reputation improve. They’ve said some things in the past that suggest they want to do the same. I’d just like to see some follow through.
 
Such a vague post… What am I supposed to do with this? Who are the “handful of personalities… hall monitoring”? Who do you consider “real” members?
Maybe you are exactly the problem i mentioned. Not everything is about you, your interests, and your expected standards. So maybe you aren’t suppose to do anything with “this”, but take a moment to reflect on how you are being perceived. Rabbit ears and thin skin is a bad way to go through life.

In a community of this size to have a handful of people try to dictate standards for the rest of us, says more about you, your personalities, and unclear motivations. I don’t think there is one single person here buying gear that wants “less safe” products, but yet a couple of malcontents, with seemingly personal grievances, try to hide behind the harm reduction philosophy to push personal agendas. A little self awareness goes a long way. Your games are transparent.

Every single vendor on this site has had issues. are you advocating digging through the archives and creating running tallies of every mistake they made so we can spam their thread on a daily basis? If this is the case, lead the charge. We can all go to the local pharmacy instead. The methods being used in this thread seem a little petty, hostile, and unnecessary.

I personally don’t care what you think about me. My only motivation is keeping a fair and balanced forum. I’ve personally watched you, and a handful like you, breed mistrust amongst members and create a toxic environment for anyone that holds different standards and opinions than yourself. For the record I would feel the same if you were showing up everyday to cheerlead. My feeling about you are nothing personal because I don’t know you. They are honest though.
 
I gotta give credit where credit is due. Two and half days from time of payment to arrival. In all my years, I have never seen anything like this. Was practically like amazon.

I always send samples to Jano and assuming that they come back good these guys will have a very dedicated customer.
this took longer than I intended to get done and even longer for me to get around to posting, but here are the results. Everything tested really well except for the deca which was about 25mg per ml short (tbh im not even mad given how everything else tested and how quick and responsive these guys have been).

I also fucked up on the sterility testing (almost entirely my fault, misinterpreted some of the sample instructions) so I am sending out additional samples to have them tested for sterility and for heavy metals. I will posted when I get them back.

The following are the first four I ordered.

NPP
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Prop
Q&Q
GCMS

Deca
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Undecanoate
Q&Q
GCMS

Subsequently I ordered some test cyp. I ordered on a sunday and it was at my door on tuesday morning. Will be sending it out to get Q&Q, GCMS, Sterility, and Heavy metals. Will post when those come in .

All in all I am very impressed.
 
this took longer than I intended to get done and even longer for me to get around to posting, but here are the results. Everything tested really well except for the deca which was about 25mg per ml short (tbh im not even mad given how everything else tested and how quick and responsive these guys have been).

I also fucked up on the sterility testing (almost entirely my fault, misinterpreted some of the sample instructions) so I am sending out additional samples to have them tested for sterility and for heavy metals. I will posted when I get them back.

The following are the first four I ordered.

NPP
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Prop
Q&Q
GCMS

Deca
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Undecanoate
Q&Q
GCMS

Subsequently I ordered some test cyp. I ordered on a sunday and it was at my door on tuesday morning. Will be sending it out to get Q&Q, GCMS, Sterility, and Heavy metals. Will post when those come in .

All in all I am very impressed.

Is anyone else unable to view the GCMS sheets?

They're not loading and I can't download them
 
this took longer than I intended to get done and even longer for me to get around to posting, but here are the results. Everything tested really well except for the deca which was about 25mg per ml short (tbh im not even mad given how everything else tested and how quick and responsive these guys have been).

I also fucked up on the sterility testing (almost entirely my fault, misinterpreted some of the sample instructions) so I am sending out additional samples to have them tested for sterility and for heavy metals. I will posted when I get them back.

The following are the first four I ordered.

NPP
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Prop
Q&Q
GCMS

Deca
Q&Q
GCMS

Test Undecanoate
Q&Q
GCMS

Subsequently I ordered some test cyp. I ordered on a sunday and it was at my door on tuesday morning. Will be sending it out to get Q&Q, GCMS, Sterility, and Heavy metals. Will post when those come in .

All in all I am very impressed.
Don’t show Photon, brother. He and whoever he’s teamed up with are going to have a meltdown.
 
Maybe you are exactly the problem i mentioned. Not everything is about you, your interests, and your expected standards. So maybe you aren’t suppose to do anything with “this”, but take a moment to reflect on how you are being perceived. Rabbit ears and thin skin is a bad way to go through life.

In a community of this size to have a handful of people try to dictate standards for the rest of us, says more about you, your personalities, and unclear motivations. I don’t think there is one single person here buying gear that wants “less safe” products, but yet a couple of malcontents, with seemingly personal grievances, try to hide behind the harm reduction philosophy to push personal agendas. A little self awareness goes a long way. Your games are transparent.

Every single vendor on this site has had issues. are you advocating digging through the archives and creating running tallies of every mistake they made so we can spam their thread on a daily basis? If this is the case, lead the charge. We can all go to the local pharmacy instead. The methods being used in this thread seem a little petty, hostile, and unnecessary.

I personally don’t care what you think about me. My only motivation is keeping a fair and balanced forum. I’ve personally watched you, and a handful like you, breed mistrust amongst members and create a toxic environment for anyone that holds different standards and opinions than yourself. For the record I would feel the same if you were showing up everyday to cheerlead. My feeling about you are nothing personal because I don’t know you. They are honest though.
Is this your new member introduction or is that still to come?
 
Maybe you are exactly the problem i mentioned. Not everything is about you, your interests, and your expected standards. So maybe you aren’t suppose to do anything with “this”, but take a moment to reflect on how you are being perceived. Rabbit ears and thin skin is a bad way to go through life.

In a community of this size to have a handful of people try to dictate standards for the rest of us, says more about you, your personalities, and unclear motivations. I don’t think there is one single person here buying gear that wants “less safe” products, but yet a couple of malcontents, with seemingly personal grievances, try to hide behind the harm reduction philosophy to push personal agendas. A little self awareness goes a long way. Your games are transparent.

Every single vendor on this site has had issues. are you advocating digging through the archives and creating running tallies of every mistake they made so we can spam their thread on a daily basis? If this is the case, lead the charge. We can all go to the local pharmacy instead. The methods being used in this thread seem a little petty, hostile, and unnecessary.

I personally don’t care what you think about me. My only motivation is keeping a fair and balanced forum. I’ve personally watched you, and a handful like you, breed mistrust amongst members and create a toxic environment for anyone that holds different standards and opinions than yourself. For the record I would feel the same if you were showing up everyday to cheerlead. My feeling about you are nothing personal because I don’t know you. They are honest though.
There you go being vague again… “Maybe” I’m the problem. If I’m a problem, please, call me out, provide a few specifics, if you don’t mind.

I’ve actually bought Primal’s products, literally as recently as a couple of days ago, and I’ve also taken the time to send them in for testing. Those results identified discrepancies. I shared and discussed them here as well as with Primal privately. I also gave Primal credit for their generous testing policy. Primal has acknowledged the issues and stated they would improve. I’m simply asking for follow through. I’d do the same with any other vendor, but haven’t had to yet.

I’m guessing your username is meant to be ironic?
 
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