Primo for an mma fighter?

[biscuitsbrah]

Hey guys, I’m an mma fighter who is already pretty heavy for my weight class and I am looking for a slight edge in performance without putting on weight. Nothing crazy.

I am currently on 115mg of test/week and ipa/mod grf at 70 mcg twice a day.

In reality this is enough to get me through my training with great increases in endurance and decent strength, but I was reading so much about primo being people’s favorite steroid that I wanted to try it.

I have one bottle coming in that I was planning on dosing at 100 mg a week, while keeping my test dosage the same at 115.

It would be enough primo for 24 weeks. So I’m wondering if I should do just a 24 week cycle, or maybe split it up throughout the year, maybe two 12 week cycles.

I know most like to run it at least 16-20 weeks because it gets better and more serum concentrated(?) the longer you take it. But im not sure if I want to be on primo for half a year and then not on it for the last half. I feel like if I have fights in the second half of the year it could mentally effect me. Like I wouldn’t be as confident in my S&C without it.

Or maybe I should just try cruising on 50 - 70 mg year round? Like a sports TRT?

I also have t bol on hand and was planning on using that only 4 weeks before a fight. Not really something I would use during the off season.

Anyways lmk. Thanks!

 

[GuerillaPete]

@Coconutz this guy can beat you with his legs only and he can help you with your stack but only after you fight him.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

@Coconutz this guy can beat you with his legs only and he can help you with your stack but only after you fight him.

I just read through that thread and I gotta say some of these internet warriors need to take a chill pill.

In all honesty I weigh 155 lbs and fight at flyweight (125) so a lot of you big juice heads could give me a hard time if not finish me. I’d say once you get into the 230 lbs and up I would have to fight a perfect fight in order to win.

Like I’ve beat the shit outta a soft 190 lb ex fighter. But once you get into the 200’s with the massive strength advantage that gets really difficult. Even if untrained/barely trained/trains a single discipline, that size and strength advantage is massive. You either kill me early or eventually gas out trying to kill me and I take you out through experience/conditioning/attrition. But yeah I would definitely not leave unscathed if I managed to take a big strong juicy old man out.

Anyways that’s all I got to say about that. lol.

 

[GuerillaPete]

I just read through that thread and I gotta say some of these internet warriors need to take a chill pill.

In all honesty I weigh 155 lbs and fight at flyweight (125) so a lot of you big juice heads could give me a hard time if not finish me. I’d say once you get into the 230 lbs and up I would have to fight a perfect fight in order to win.

Like I’ve beat the shit outta a soft 190 lb ex fighter. But once you get into the 200’s with the massive strength advantage that gets really difficult. Even if untrained/barely trained/trains a single discipline, that size and strength advantage is massive. You either kill me early or eventually gas out trying to kill me and I take you out through experience/conditioning/attrition. But yeah I would definitely not leave unscathed if I managed to take a big strong juicy old man out.

Anyways that’s all I got to say about that. lol.

I was joking.
You noticed so good for you.
You can try primo its a good low side effect option.
You might want to raise your testosterone to not crush your estrogen.
Testing for it is a must with primo as it can have a strong ai effect for some but not all.

 

[Mongo966]

Testing for it is a must with primo as it can have a strong ai effect for some but not all.

Just to add to this point: Primo seems very gentle but it can be a sneaky little fuck when it comes to lipids. It only takes 200mg of primo to reduce my hdl by 40-50%.

 

[JeffroCat]

Most fighters favor masteron for the purpose you've explained.

 

[UncleBuns]

Keep dose low if you don't want weight gain. 100mg is a good starting point. Masteron might be a better option as some get a better strength response from it and shed some water. I'd try primo and take notes of the effects, then next time try mast and compare.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

I was joking.
You noticed so good for you.
You can try primo its a good low side effect option.
You might want to raise your testosterone to not crush your estrogen.
Testing for it is a must with primo as it can have a strong ai effect for some but not all.

Ok I guess I gotta test to see if my e2 is in range.

Just to add to this point: Primo seems very gentle but it can be a sneaky little fuck when it comes to lipids. It only takes 200mg of primo to reduce my hdl by 40-50%.

Hmm. Might just cruise at 40-50 mg then.

Most fighters favor masteron for the purpose you've explained.

Keep dose low if you don't want weight gain. 100mg is a good starting point. Masteron might be a better option as some get a better strength response from it and shed some water. I'd try primo and take notes of the effects, then next time try mast and compare.

Yeah I was reading mast is better for leaning out and not gaining weight in general. Everyone loves primo and I’ve read it has the least sides so I couldn’t resist. I heard mast has slightly more sides on HDL/LDL.

Yeah next time it would probably be the better choice for fighting. Next one I’ll try that.

Thanks guys.



Also I’m taking hcg 750 a week so I’m assuming that with 115 test its more than enough e2 for low dose primo. Like I don’t feel any estrogenic sides (maybe acne) but I can’t imagine my e2 is not in the high range from this

 

[mindgame1516]

I’ve been doing a lot of reading on primo lately since I had just recently started it after a few years on trt and running short blast here and there. It seems majority of ppl react good to a 2:1 ratio.

from an ex fighter I would def go with tbol a month before fights I think that is all you need. Tbol has a good endurance boost and some strength boosting benefits with no add weight. I would also say anavar is good but for the price and since your not using it so much for bodybuilding purposes I’d say tbol. Plus I don’t react good to anavar so I’m not a fan

 

[UncleBuns]

Ok I guess I gotta test to see if my e2 is in range.


Hmm. Might just cruise at 40-50 mg then.



Yeah I was reading mast is better for leaning out and not gaining weight in general. Everyone loves primo and I’ve read it has the least sides so I couldn’t resist. I heard mast has slightly more sides on HDL/LDL.

Yeah next time it would probably be the better choice for fighting. Next one I’ll try that.

Thanks guys.



Also I’m taking hcg 750 a week so I’m assuming that with 115 test its more than enough e2 for low dose primo. Like I don’t feel any estrogenic sides (maybe acne) but I can’t imagine my e2 is not in the high range from this

One isn't necessarily better than the other. It varies for everybody. Some people have more sides with primo.

 

[RaddishPork]

I just read through that thread and I gotta say some of these internet warriors need to take a chill pill.

In all honesty I weigh 155 lbs and fight at flyweight (125) so a lot of you big juice heads could give me a hard time if not finish me. I’d say once you get into the 230 lbs and up I would have to fight a perfect fight in order to win.

Like I’ve beat the shit outta a soft 190 lb ex fighter. But once you get into the 200’s with the massive strength advantage that gets really difficult. Even if untrained/barely trained/trains a single discipline, that size and strength advantage is massive. You either kill me early or eventually gas out trying to kill me and I take you out through experience/conditioning/attrition. But yeah I would definitely not leave unscathed if I managed to take a big strong juicy old man out.

Anyways that’s all I got to say about that. lol.

This right here.
I've spent years wrestling and boxing. I would easily kill any untrained person within 30lbs of me.

But if you take someone that's 250lbs of athletic muscle, I'm not fighting that guy lmfao.There's a guy named Dalton Roe who is an ex NFL prospect. He's like 6'1 and 235. These internet MMA guys are always saying he'd get tapped by a female 150lber or dumb stuff like that. So he started actually going to BJJ gyms and he just ragdolls half their guys. If they get on top of him he literally does a sit up and overhead presses them. I think it's purple belts close to his size are where he starts to lose.

As far as your question, It depends on how much you plan on being drug tested. Tbol is one of the most common drugs for explosive athletes pre-competition. EPO is great for endurance athletes and very hard to detect.

If you're not going to get tested, the "safest" cycles would just be some moderately dosed test and maybe a EQ or an oral. I've put on 60lbs since I stopped fighting. Test + EQ still gets me going 12+ solid rounds on the heavy bags I do not train for endurance whatsoever but still go harder than half the people I train.

 

[Mongo966]

Hmm. Might just cruise at 40-50 mg then.

I don't think it affects everyone's lipids the same. I always like to throw that out there when people talk about primo. Just get your regular tests done and see how badly it's affecting your lipids and go from there.

 

[Disarmer]

This right here.
I've spent years wrestling and boxing. I would easily kill any untrained person within 30lbs of me.

But if you take someone that's 250lbs of athletic muscle, I'm not fighting that guy lmfao.There's a guy named Dalton Roe who is an ex NFL prospect. He's like 6'1 and 235. These internet MMA guys are always saying he'd get tapped by a female 150lber or dumb stuff like that. So he started actually going to BJJ gyms and he just ragdolls half their guys. If they get on top of him he literally does a sit up and overhead presses them. I think it's purple belts close to his size are where he starts to lose.

lol this is insane

 

[BoloYang2023]

tbol huh? imo tbol is dookie. injectables are the shit. imo i enjoy primo alot and havent gotten any sides imo. and it feels great. but im also doing a high dose. but low dose primo from what i hear is amazing as well but i wanted to ask as you do mma fighting should you really be using aas? not judging just i feel like aas shouldnt be used in mma. In pro sports i am all about it , just not combat sports for obvious reasons.

 

[amazonas]

TRT + Primo + Cardarine + GH is all you need for fighting. Increased stamina, increased cardio, increased aggression, higher rbc count, increased recovery, increased strength, increased muscle mass, increased lean mass, increased fat loss, stronger joints and ligaments

Some would even argue EQ instead of Primo, or tbol instead of cardarine. For me it comes down to least side effects possible.

 

[GuerillaPete]

 

[biscuitsbrah]

TRT + Primo + Cardarine + GH is all you need for fighting. Increased stamina, increased cardio, increased aggression, higher rbc count, increased recovery, increased strength, increased muscle mass, increased lean mass, increased fat loss, stronger joints and ligaments

Some would even argue EQ instead of Primo, or tbol instead of cardarine. For me it comes down to least side effects possible.

Yes I will be taking trt + primo + ipa/mod grf year round.
I will also take tbol about 4 weeks out from a fight.

 

[amazonas]

Yes I will be taking trt + primo + ipa/mod grf year round.
I will also take tbol about 4 weeks out from a fight.

Why not do cardarine instead? It can be run for much longer and no blood pressure issues, elevated RHR, shin/lower back pumps or liver stress like tbol

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Why not do cardarine instead? It can be run for much longer and no blood pressure issues, elevated RHR, shin/lower back pumps or liver stress like tbol

Mostly because of the cancer. Also Tbol is supposed to be a great steroid for athletics. Even better than cardarine from what I’ve read.

But yeah the cancer risk is not worth it to me. Couldn’t even get to human trials

 

[Qualityfirst]

TRT + Primo + Cardarine + GH is all you need for fighting. Increased stamina, increased cardio, increased aggression, higher rbc count, increased recovery, increased strength, increased muscle mass, increased lean mass, increased fat loss, stronger joints and ligaments

Some would even argue EQ instead of Primo, or tbol instead of cardarine. For me it comes down to least side effects possible.

I would argue in favor of eq. More oxygen carrying potential may extend the endurance factor.