Primo, Var, and gh Cycle

Hi Sadie, do you mind sharing the ECA stack you're on? I'm on the lookout for something that provides energy with no jitters...
Thanks!!

Yep! Super simple. It’s just Ephedrine, Caffeine, and baby aspirin.

I get the ephedrine from Bronkaid which I picked up at Walgreens. Caffeine pills on amazon.

I started at half the recommended dose. I feel great. Lots of energy. No jitters. Appetite suppressed so easy to cut down calories. So far so good. Had a headache yesterday but not sure if it was related.

Do a google search on ECA stack and read about how it works and how to properly increase dose. I felt it was safer than clen or dnp. Let me know how you like it, if you decide to try it.
 
Update 10 weeks

Current weight: 129.6

Running Primo
Upped dose to 100mg week split 50mg Mon/Thur

ECA stack dosing twice daily
I tried to take a third dose yesterday afternoon but found it fucked my sleep up bad last night. Not going to make that mistake again.

Calories 1500 daily

I've shifted to cut for the remainder of my cycle. Eager to peel off this winter coat and see what I've built. So far, so good. Down 3 lbs. Fasted cardio several days a week for 45 mins.

Super excited to tell you guys I am finally training upper body again. I did chest last week and shoulders and triceps yesterday. My elbow was wrecked after training yesterday but it's feeling better now. I was tired of sitting on the bench. I'm just going to be as careful as I can and listen to my body. I took a little over a month off of upper body training and thanks to this cycle, lost no strength. I'm quite shocked really. I didn't expect to be lifting the weight I'm lifting after all that time off. I'm hopeful about the elbow issue. It seems to become very inflamed while I'm doing certain exercises.

Today is leg day. My favorite day!!

Sides are the same. My voice may be the slightest bit deeper. Especially in the morning when I wake up. The saddest side is that my boobs have shrunk to nonexistent. I hate that but I've already booked and paid for my breast augmentation. It's less than 2 months away and I CANNOT wait!!!

Anyway, I plan to take some pictures soon to see how I'm progressing with the cut. I'll keep you all posted. IMG_3459.JPG
 
Update 10 weeks

Current weight: 129.6

Running Primo
Upped dose to 100mg week split 50mg Mon/Thur

ECA stack dosing twice daily
I tried to take a third dose yesterday afternoon but found it fucked my sleep up bad last night. Not going to make that mistake again.

Calories 1500 daily

I've shifted to cut for the remainder of my cycle. Eager to peel off this winter coat and see what I've built. So far, so good. Down 3 lbs. Fasted cardio several days a week for 45 mins.

Super excited to tell you guys I am finally training upper body again. I did chest last week and shoulders and triceps yesterday. My elbow was wrecked after training yesterday but it's feeling better now. I was tired of sitting on the bench. I'm just going to be as careful as I can and listen to my body. I took a little over a month off of upper body training and thanks to this cycle, lost no strength. I'm quite shocked really. I didn't expect to be lifting the weight I'm lifting after all that time off. I'm hopeful about the elbow issue. It seems to become very inflamed while I'm doing certain exercises.

Today is leg day. My favorite day!!

Sides are the same. My voice may be the slightest bit deeper. Especially in the morning when I wake up. The saddest side is that my boobs have shrunk to nonexistent. I hate that but I've already booked and paid for my breast augmentation. It's less than 2 months away and I CANNOT wait!!!

Anyway, I plan to take some pictures soon to see how I'm progressing with the cut. I'll keep you all posted. View attachment 86507

Way to go lady! I want new boobs too! Let me know what you go with. I know with certain placement you can still do chest workout!
 
I don't mean to be rude but... Your nipples look strange. Almost like black dots. Might want to tell the doc to check that out. :)
 
Update 10 weeks

Current weight: 129.6

Running Primo
Upped dose to 100mg week split 50mg Mon/Thur

ECA stack dosing twice daily
I tried to take a third dose yesterday afternoon but found it fucked my sleep up bad last night. Not going to make that mistake again.

Calories 1500 daily

I've shifted to cut for the remainder of my cycle. Eager to peel off this winter coat and see what I've built. So far, so good. Down 3 lbs. Fasted cardio several days a week for 45 mins.

Super excited to tell you guys I am finally training upper body again. I did chest last week and shoulders and triceps yesterday. My elbow was wrecked after training yesterday but it's feeling better now. I was tired of sitting on the bench. I'm just going to be as careful as I can and listen to my body. I took a little over a month off of upper body training and thanks to this cycle, lost no strength. I'm quite shocked really. I didn't expect to be lifting the weight I'm lifting after all that time off. I'm hopeful about the elbow issue. It seems to become very inflamed while I'm doing certain exercises.

Today is leg day. My favorite day!!

Sides are the same. My voice may be the slightest bit deeper. Especially in the morning when I wake up. The saddest side is that my boobs have shrunk to nonexistent. I hate that but I've already booked and paid for my breast augmentation. It's less than 2 months away and I CANNOT wait!!!

Anyway, I plan to take some pictures soon to see how I'm progressing with the cut. I'll keep you all posted. View attachment 86507
Did you decide on the size and implant type, my girl has the gummies, really likes them
 
So, I went today to a consultation with a local surgeon. I’m having mine done out of state but I had a million questions so I booked this appt. He suggested that I go under the muscle which I wasn’t planning to do. For my body type and having very little breast tissue already, it will look better this way. He says I can still train chest. I fucking hope so. Chest is one of my favorites! He also suggested that I have a crescent lift since my nipples are low. That is where they cut around the top of the areola and pinch the skin and stitch. Not a big fan of the idea because I don’t want to lose sensitivity. I may not do it. I won’t actually consult with my surgeon in person until the day before surgery. The surgeon I’m going to does some of the most amazing augmentations I’ve seen so I trust he will do great. I’m going with silicone. Size I’m not totally sure on. I’m thinking C cup. Maybe D.
 
So, I went today to a consultation with a local surgeon. I’m having mine done out of state but I had a million questions so I booked this appt. He suggested that I go under the muscle which I wasn’t planning to do. For my body type and having very little breast tissue already, it will look better this way. He says I can still train chest. I fucking hope so. Chest is one of my favorites! He also suggested that I have a crescent lift since my nipples are low. That is where they cut around the top of the areola and pinch the skin and stitch. Not a big fan of the idea because I don’t want to lose sensitivity. I may not do it. I won’t actually consult with my surgeon in person until the day before surgery. The surgeon I’m going to does some of the most amazing augmentations I’ve seen so I trust he will do great. I’m going with silicone. Size I’m not totally sure on. I’m thinking C cup. Maybe D.

C is a good size. That’s where I am currently, but I’m dropping sizes like crazy. My sister had reduction and went to a C. If you think about the first 6 months you’ll be sitting at a bigger size due to swelling.
 
C is a good size. That’s where I am currently, but I’m dropping sizes like crazy. My sister had reduction and went to a C. If you think about the first 6 months you’ll be sitting at a bigger size due to swelling.

Yeah, I think C would be good too. I have a small frame. I’ve saved a million pictures on my phone and I go back and forth about what I want. I used to be a C cup years ago. After kids I lost a lot of size and now after steroids, forget about it. They are gone. [emoji17]

I’m soooooooo excited about this!! I cannot wait!!
 
So, I went today to a consultation with a local surgeon. I’m having mine done out of state but I had a million questions so I booked this appt. He suggested that I go under the muscle which I wasn’t planning to do. For my body type and having very little breast tissue already, it will look better this way. He says I can still train chest. I fucking hope so. Chest is one of my favorites! He also suggested that I have a crescent lift since my nipples are low. That is where they cut around the top of the areola and pinch the skin and stitch. Not a big fan of the idea because I don’t want to lose sensitivity. I may not do it. I won’t actually consult with my surgeon in person until the day before surgery. The surgeon I’m going to does some of the most amazing augmentations I’ve seen so I trust he will do great. I’m going with silicone. Size I’m not totally sure on. I’m thinking C cup. Maybe D.
Hers are under the muscle, and she trains chest just fine. she had the nipple lift and didn't lose any sensitivity, but your doctor can say more about that. Silicone gummy bears are very good, feel and look extremely natural. as for size, be careful, my advice is to always go bigger, hear too many stories about how they wish they went bigger afterwards, and you only want to do this one. she's a D, maybe small E and is only 5'3 and 115 pounds. Looks very good
 
Do you think you’ll get implants after your cycle?

I am going to wait and see how much more they go down. I’m in my late 20s, so I want to wait and see. We don’t plan to have kids, so I am eager at any point. I would have to wait until summer time because of my job.
 
I hear ya. I’m 36. I figure it’s time. I’m so damned excited about this. Not super excited about taking time off from the gym. I was told yesterday 4 to 6 weeks. I’m liking the sound of 4 better than 6, lol.
 
I hear ya. I’m 36. I figure it’s time. I’m so damned excited about this. Not super excited about taking time off from the gym. I was told yesterday 4 to 6 weeks. I’m liking the sound of 4 better than 6, lol.

That’s exciting! The time
Off will be torture, but you want those new girls healed!
 
Update

11 weeks into my cycle
Primo 100 mg weekly split 50mg Sun/Thur

ECA stack Week 3

Weight 129.6

Things are going great. I'm almost finished with primo. I've got 3 pins left. It's gone by so fast. I wish I had more time to update this log like the last one. Here are some highlights from the last week...

I'm feeling so strong. I was afraid that I would lose a lot of strength from taking time off because of the elbow issue. I haven't. I'm bumping weight up regularly. Chest day I was pushing 50 lb dumbbells on the incline for reps. Aaaannd I finally hit 200 lb squat on Sunday!!! I almost didn't try. I hit 195 and didn't think I had it in me but dug deep. I fucking nailed it.

Fasted cardio is happening almost everyday at this point. I take my ECA and then head to the gym and do 45 mins. I'm happy to report that the scale is not moving much but my body fat percentage has. I was at 22% and now I'm at 18%. This makes me so happy. If the scale was dropping too much I would think I was losing a lot of muscle. I'm very happy to see the change in composition that is taking place. I have to admit, it's become a struggle. The ECA helped with the appetite at first but now, I'm hungry most of the time. Now I know it's a lot mental too. I FUCKING love food. I obsess over it. I swear there is a 600 lb woman living inside of me. If it wasn't for vanity, I'd need a tractor trailer to move my ass around.

My elbow is doing ok. It hurts some after I train for a few hours but that's it. It has not gotten any worse. I think I'm gonna start the gh back up after primo ends.

As for sides, nothing has changed. The sides that I have experienced from primo have been totally manageable. Overall this cycle has been fun. I like the primo. I'm not crazy impressed by it though. I'm eager to try something a little bit stronger next time. I will definitely be running primo again but I think I'd like something that gets me to my goal a little bit faster next time. Excited to try the NPP after my breast augmentation.

I'll try to get some progress pics up in the next few days. Hope you all have a great week!!
 
Great job Sadie on this and all of your cycles. I remember the pic of you before cycling, the change is dramatic, and you should be proud of all you have accomplished.
 
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